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Old October 23rd, 2004, 09:29 AM   #61
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as promised the designs of the stadia re now finalised, would like to know when normal people will be able to have a look at them


Modern stadium design that uses traditional Arabic forms


Modern stadium design that uses traditional Arabic forms
When it comes to a major project like designing a number of stadia, where do you start?
When you begin the design you always have look at the location first. This is not just the site itself, but the surroundings. In the case of Dubai Sports City there was nothing nearby, there was no neighbourhood as such, it was just desert. We therefore had to find a theme. As you may be aware, GMP has designed several stadia in Germany, Spain and China and we have a lot stadium designs, so we could have just taken these designs used them for Dubai Sports City, but that was not our vision, our vision was to design a complete atmosphere and appearance that is unique by creating a family of stadia. By that I mean design four stadia that look the similar, but are actually different.

What theme has been used for the Dubai Sports City Stadia?
We drew inspiration from Arabian architecture and history for the theme. There are some very famous architectural elements, like the bows of mosque entrance areas. We did not want to copy these elements but we tried to use the geometrical structure of the elements and give them a more modern style. By combining these elements we were able to create a unique architectural character for the structures.

As a European architect were you familair with Arabic Architecture?
The roots of architecture were laid in the Middle East, and from here it moved to Greece, and then to Italy. From there it moved to Central Europe and onto North America. There is therefore a clear link between the architecture of Arabia and Europe. There is also a link between Arabia and Asia, if you look between the lines you will find Arabic architecture all over the world.
If you look closely at the architecture of the 17th and 18th centuries in Central Europe you will find many Arabic-style elements. This is because in those days people looked to Arabia because it was very exotic.

How will the stadia be built?
The construction resembles a steel frame skeleton and around that there is a glass fibre membrane, which gives the superstructure its shape. In this part of the world you need to make sure that there is some shading from the sun and the membrane does this, while at the same time allowing some light to come through.
For the interior of the stadium an open skeleton appearance could have been used. This approach is popular in Europe, but in the Middle East people prefer buildings that look rounded and finished rather than something that is plain and open. For this reason we used an inner membrane for the interior. It also allows us to put lighting into the void between the inner and outer membranes, which will create some very special lighting effects.

Will the stadia be easily recognisable from the a far?
For the view from far away we create two major elements. The first is the twin towers that form a gateway into the stadia. These buildings will be approximately 130 m tall and will have a hotel and office space. The second element is the media tower. This tower will be used for advertising so that any special events at Dubai Sports City can be announced to all those passing along Emirates Road.

How did you get the mall to fit into the family feel?
The Arabian-style architectural bow is used throughout the development including the entrance to the stadia and inside the retail mall. Although it is just one element, it can be used in many different ways to give a different effect. The axis of the columns can be changed and the distance between them can give either a stronger or a softer bow. The columns we have used are palm tree shaped and open up to meet each other across the ceiling creating a bow.

Why did you decide to use palm tree-shaped columns?
If you follow the history of the column you will find that you travel from Italy to Greece and then back to the Middle East, where the first columns were basically just a replication of nature. In the past, palm trees were used to construct buildings and eventually people wanted to construct buildings that lasted longer so they used stone instead, but the form remained the same.
The columns left an almost diamond-shaped space on the ceiling that will be glazed. Glass canopies like those used in Europe would be nonsensical here because there would be tremendous problems with heat gain. But at the same time it is good for the atmosphere within the mall to allow in some daylight through so we only opened up small parts of the roof.

As an architect what is your impression of Dubai and the projects that are currently being undertaken?
Dubai offers so many opportunities. I fully believe in Sheikh Mohammed’s vision and I think it is definitely the right way because Dubai is truly a global place now. It is a hub for Europe, Asia and Africa I think that is fantastic for society.
For the architect there are opportunities here that you simply do not get anywhere else in the world. GMP is also engaged in China, which is also a growing rapidly, but I honestly think that it will not last too long and the doors may close because they have enough of their own people, but in Dubai it is different, it really is a melting pot. People come here from all over the world so it is a great chance to do some good architecture.

Do you think architects should be given a free reign to design as they wish or should they adopt a sense of civic responsibility?
With the opportunities on offer comes great responsibility. Architecture should be responsible and create buildings that are sustainable. Architects should create public spaces that people want to live in and walk through. The buildings we create today should improve with age, and that only happens if they are built with good materials. For example, people love to visit Southern Europe because these countries have old buildings that have stood the test of time and have real character. Dubai has a great opportunity to do the same, it just needs to realise that it needs to build things correctly in the first place.

What do you think of the architecture on display in Dubai?
There are some buildings that I like very much, such as Emirates Towers. There are other newer generation buildings that have been built over the last five years that are not so spectacular but have good shapes and are well constructed, like the Grand Hyatt, which is modern with a very strong design.
I can’t understand the design of the Madinat because it is not the way I design architecture, but I can understand that as a location for a hotel or a shopping mall people like it and it seems to work well. However, I must say if you accept this type of architecture I think it is very well done and to a high quality.
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"The first is the twin towers that form a gateway into the stadia. These buildings will be approximately 130 m tall and will have a hotel and office space. The second element is the media tower. This tower will be used for advertising so that any special events at Dubai Sports City can be announced to all those passing along Emirates Road."

Hmm not as tall as one would have hoped
I mean any thing 200 meters is still realistic
guess this will have to do
if these are the gate way towers then maybe they will set a height limit for all of Sports city ?
Hope not
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Old October 24th, 2004, 06:00 PM   #63
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maybe this is just phase 1
and 130 twin is not that bad
60 are proposed, i'm sure there will also be a landmark, maybe the media tower. they didn't tell us the height
i guess there will soon be renders
and nice to have some new towers from elsewhere
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i understood that
TOWER ONE 130 Meters = hotel and office space
TOWER TWO 130 Meters = media tower.

or do you think the hotel and office are each of these two towers and the media tower is the unmentioned one ?
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Old October 24th, 2004, 06:12 PM   #65
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they say the first major element is the twin towers
the second is the media tower the advertising tower, i guess it will have huge screens on it that cars on emirates road can see what events will take place
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liking this city far more the other sport complex
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#PROJECT: DSC- state-of-the-art sports hospital

Dubai Sports City, the world's only integrated purpose-designed sports city, is to feature a specialised sports medicine hospital – The German Sports Medical Centre - following a tie up with HELIOS Hospital Group Middle East, the regional arm of Germany's leading private hospital provider



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The comprehensive facility was announced by HELIOS Hospital Group Middle East Area Manager Norbert Seis and Dubai Sports City CEO, U. Balasubramaniam. The hospital, expected to open in summer 2006, will feature Centres of Excellence for sport cardiology, orthopaedics, sports medicine, sports science, neurosurgery and rehabilitation.

The German Sports Medical Centre will combine the finest medical technology and care with 5-star luxury. In additionit will be completely 'wired,' allowing the cadre of medical specialists based in Dubai to consult, via tele-medicine and tele-radiology, with additional experts in Germany.

'Sports medicine is one of the most dynamic specialties practiced today,' said Seis. 'Advancements in diagnosis technology, non-invasive treatments and micro invasive, arthroscopic and laparoscopic surgeries are occurring at an incredible pace. These improvements are critical to athletes, professional and amateur alike, as they reduce the recovery and rehabilitation down times dramatically.'

Dr. Max Lippert, senior consultant in orthopaedic surgery, sports medicine and chiropractics, will head a team of medical specialists that includes orthopaedic surgeons, laparoscopic abdominal surgeons (hernias), ENT surgeons and a full cardiac team. The physicians involved in the Dubai facility, several of whom have served as the team doctors for professional sports clubs, have decades of experience in treating and rehabilitating individuals with sports-related injuries.

Lippert's team will have access to the latest diagnostic equipment on site at the Centre. The radiology department, for example, will contain advanced diagnostic 4-D ultrasound scanning, MRI scanners and a 4-D Cardiac CT. These tools provide excellent images of bone, dense organic structures, and soft tissue and are critical to the expansion of non-invasive diagnostic examinations.

'Six weeks ago we announced our partnerships with international brands like Manchester United and Troon Golf. Then, Mohammed Al Gergawi, chairman of Dubai Development and Investment Authority (DDIA), promised that the Dubai Sports City would attract 'only the best'. The partnership between us and The German Sports Medical Centre is yet another example of Dubai Sports City keeping its promise', said Balasubramaniam.

The German Sports Medical Centre will include acute care and acute rehabilitation facilities and an exceptional, fully equipped and staffed emergency/trauma unit. Housed in a facility that is easily comparable to a 5-star luxury hotel, the hospital will also include comprehensive pathology and laboratory departments and a sports-oriented wellness/prevention centre.

'The goal of our partnership with Dubai Sports City is to provide athletes and other patients in Dubai with the best possible care, utilising the latest skills and technology available,' concluded Seis. 'With the support of Mr. Balasubramaniam and his team, I am confident that our team will reach and even exceed our goal.'
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Manchester United, Troon Golf, golfing superstar Ernie Els, Britain's former Davis Cup Skipper, David Lloyd and the world's undisputed number one golf coach Butch Harmon, have become the first major international brand names to commit to Dubai Sports City (DSC) – the 50 million square feet development being created as one of the star attractions of the mega AED 18 billion Dubailand project.


The result is that the DSC, the world's only integrated purpose-designed sports city coming up at the two billion square feet Dubailand, will host a Manchester United Soccer School – the first permanent facility outside of Europe, the first Ernie Els Signature golf course, managed by Troon Golf, a David Lloyd Tennis Academy and Butch Harmon Golf Academy.

'Dubailand is one of Dubai's most prestigious and ambitious projects. A development of this magnitude can only attract the world's finest affiliates. Along with DSC a number of world class companies have joined,' said Mohammed Al Gergawi, Chairman of Dubai Development and Investment Authority (DDIA), which has launched the Dubai Tourism and Development Company that oversees the development of Dubailand.

Al Gergawi said every aspect of this mega development will come together to position Dubailand alongside the world's finest in entertainment, leisure and sport.

'Dubailand is an opportunity for our partners to create new and exciting projects that are unique to this region. The fact that our partners in Dubai Sports City have attracted names such as Manchester United, Ernie Els and Butch Harmon, shows the kind of world-class expertise that will help in the development of Dubailand,' Al Gergawi pointed out.

The Dubai Sports City announcement is in line with the intentions of the DDIA and the Dubai Tourism and Development Company along with the project's investors in order to transform Dubai into a centre for excellence.

'In addition we are in serious negotiations with international bodies representing hockey and cricket and hope shortly to announce additional world-class academies serving these two important sports,' said Khalid Al Zarooni, President, Dubai Sports City LLC.

DSC has signed a memorandum of understanding with Manchester United Plc to run the permanent DSC football academy which will be attached to a multi-purpose outdoor stadium with a seating capacity of 25,000.

'Manchester United is delighted to be involved in this exciting project,' said David Gill, CEO, Manchester United FC. 'We are confident that the evolution of this unique facility will encourage more young people to participate in football and achieve their full potential.'

The project brought praise too from Manchester United's Manager Sir Alex Ferguson.

'This is one of the most exciting facility concepts I've ever seen and I'm sure it will be a great success. We are delighted to be involved in yet another pioneering programme for football outside of the UK.

'The DSC Manchester United Football School will be the first permanent soccer training facility in the Middle East and will live up to our maxim of delivering coaching which allows students to enjoy playing football in a fun and friendly environment.'

Under the MOU, Manchester United Merchandising Limited has granted DSC the exclusive right to use the Manchester United Football Club and Manchester United Soccer Schools names and logos in association with football training and coaching in the UAE and remaining GCC countries.

'The response is expected to be tremendous,' said Khalid Al Zarooni. 'This is one of the biggest names in football meeting what will be one of the best names in sports lifestyle provision. We also envisage DSC staging soccer clinics in association with the Manchester United Soccer School throughout the GCC.

'The MOU signed with Manchester United means DSC, which will be one of the world's most popular sporting destinations is now working hand-in-hand with one of the world's most popular football clubs.'

DSC will also host the region's first David Lloyd tennis academy – training centers of excellence developed by Britain's former Davis Cup skipper and tennis ace.

'The academy will help young people to develop their tennis skills under the tuition of leading professionals,' said David Lloyd. 'Tennis has a huge following in the Middle East and the region could well produce an international star in the future.'

And the DSC golf academy, due to be operational in 2006, is to be operated as a Butch Harmon Golf Academy – the first of its kind outside North America – and designed by the man that the world's leading industry magazine, Golf Digest, recently voted the world's No: 1 Coach. It will operate in association with Troon Golf, which is also involved in the development and management of DSC's Ernie Els Signature championship golf course.

'Dubai is now regarded as one of the world's fastest emerging golf destinations. We are immensely proud that Butch Harmon has chosen Dubai to be the first city outside of North America to establish a learning facility that will attract new golfers to this wonderful city and aid with the growth of tourism in this region. Troon Golf considers itself privileged to be working with Butch and the investors from DSC on a project that will change the face of golf in the Middle East forever.' said Bruce Glasco, Senior Vice President, Troon Golf Australia/Pacific.

DSC says the unique 'Butch Harmon' methodology will greatly assist in attracting more nationals to the game of golf and reaffirm Dubai as a golfing destination for the international market.

'DSC's objective is not only to create a sports complex that ranks among the best in the world, but to create champions that compete with the best in the world,' said Al Zarooni.

'These dedicated academies for football and golf will train the young as world class champions who can live the victory.

'Butch Harmon is the world's most recognized name in golf instruction and his name will lend DSC the level of professionalism the project intends to maintain. We also envisage the 'Butch Harmon' name creating potential for us to encourage tour professionals to use the DSC facilities as a vacation site.'

Meanwhile, it has been announced that DSC's 18-hole championship golf course will be designed by South African golfing superstar Ernie Els.

'I was so impressed with the developers' vision, that getting involved was an easy decision to make,' said Els. 'In my opinion this entire project will elevate the standards for all sports in the Middle East.

'Dubai holds a very special place in my heart and the Dubai Desert Classic has always been a regular stop on my tournament schedule and hopefully that will continue for many years to come.

'During my career I have been fortunate enough to play the best golf courses around the globe and this experience has instilled in me an appreciation for classic golf courses that withstand the test of time. I will draw on this experience when designing the Dubai Sports City course and look forward to creating a 'modern classic' in one of the greatest cities in the world.'

DSC believes the immediate global recognition of the Els name and reputation will assist in establishing the project on a worldwide scale.

'Els gives us a trusted image which is invaluable for real estate marketing,' said Al Zarooni.

Mixed-use, freehold independent villas positioned for spectacular views are to be part of DSC's golfing complex. Residential development of the villas will be of approximately 10,000,000 square feet.

'DSC aims to create a unique residential community which will compliment and jointly present a life-style that attracts home buyers with a passion for an active life style,' said Al Zarooni.

Dubai Sports City's integrated golf residential community will set new lifestyle standards in Dubai. A variety of architecturally designed houses will seamlessly interact with Els' championship golf course. The golf residential community will not only feature the Els championship golf course and the Butch Harmon Golf Academy, but will also have a residential clubhouse that will give the community of Dubai Sports City living facilities that will include spas, dining options and state-of-the-art entertainment alternatives.

DSC's golfing community will include the Ernie Els signature golf course, the Butch Harmon Academy, a Club House with various leisure and entertainment facilities including an open tennis court, indoor hall for tennis, basketball and 5-aside-soccer, squash courts, a resort-type swimming pool, health club and gym facilities, a games room and the residential community.

Residential and commercial plots at DSC will go on show and interested parties can view the DSC master plan and make reservations at a special exhibition on the project being held at the Godolphin Ballroom at Emirates Towers in Dubai on March 2nd from 10am until 6.00pm.

The exhibition will also feature a futuristic, aerial-style painting of the DSC project produced by Hollywood conceptual artist Syd Mead, famed for his work on Blade Runner, Aliens and TRON.

Freehold commercial and residential plots are open for purchase by GCC nationals for self-development along certain design guidelines.

The golf course and sports related academies are part of Phase I of DSC, which also features a variety of sports stadiums. Lots for villas and residential towers are being allocated along the infrastructure of Phase I, which is expected to take four years to complete.

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The exhibition will also feature a futuristic, aerial-style painting of the DSC project produced by Hollywood conceptual artist Syd Mead, famed for his work on Blade Runner, Aliens and TRON.
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4 years for Phase 1

Residential and commercial plots at DSC will go on show and interested parties can view the DSC master plan and make reservations at a special exhibition on the project being held at the Godolphin Ballroom at Emirates Towers in Dubai on March 2nd from 10am until 6.00pm. Hmm wish could go

An there is some mention of residential towers as well
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Victory Heights at Dubai Sports City - a new way of living
Victory Heights, the unique, gated golf residential community at Dubai Sports City, was revealed today, introducing to Dubai - and the world - a new kind of living in a new lifestyle concept.


Dubai's first truly mixed-use development on 25 million sq. ft of land in Dubai Sports City, will set new standards in the quality of life in an integrated neighbourhood. Aimed at local and expatriate families, Victory Heights will offer comprehensive security and infrastructure, along with the services and amenities expected within a community, including schools, clinics, mosques, bike paths and walkways, alongside a world-beating range of sporting, entertainment and leisure facilities.

A joint venture between First Islamic Investment Bank and Dubai Sports City, Victory Heights is truly innovative.

Speaking at the launch of Victory Heights Atif A. Abdulmalik, CEO of First Islamic Investment Bank, said: 'Designed to suit a wide range of discerning tastes, each and every property at Victory Heights will be built according to the highest specification and design using the best materials. We have worked very closely with US-based master developers East West Partners and local architects, Diar Consult, to ensure that the villas offer every modern amenity in a stylish, but homely setting. The day people move to Victory Heights will be the first day of a new way of life and a new way of living,' he concluded.

Mr. Khalid Al Zarooni, President of Dubai Sports City, said: 'Victory Heights is about enhancing lives - enabling people to live life to the full. Based on the principle that a healthy life is a happier life, Victory Heights aims to look after every aspect of well-being: physical, mental and emotional. It will cater to families as well as individuals in all age groups.'

The spacious and elegant villas are set around the stunning 18-hole Ernie Els Design championship golf course in landscaped grounds and open spaces, designed specifically with the resident community in mind.

'The vision of Victory Heights is perfectly suited to my golfing vision,' says designer and champion golfer Ernie Els. ' It is for people with a passion for living and an appreciation of the finest things in life - the club will be world ranking, unique, inventive and at the forefront of golf evolution.

Els continues: ' At Victory Heights, the watchword will be consummate quality and professionalism, to make it the finest experience for our guests both on and off the course.'

The villas at Victory Heights (Mirage Villas, Oasis Villas and Horizon Villas) offer maximum space and views. In a choice of European Classical, Spanish Andalusian and Mediterranean architectural styles, custom finishes and a variety of options are available - ensuring a truly personalized home.

While the properties are just a short walk away from the bustling down town district of Dubai Sports City, the residents will have abundant open spaces in which to ramble, stroll, take picnics and bicycle rides. Families can create and enjoy many shared, precious memories and unforgettable moments in the evenings and at weekends.

A major attraction will be the Next Generation Tennis and Country Club. Former tennis champion David Lloyd is behind some of the best tennis and country clubs in the world and Victory Heights will be the first of his Next Generation Clubs to open in the region

David Lloyd of Next Generation Clubs said:' Next Generation at Victory Heights will revolutionize health and fitness in the Middle East and set inspiring new standards of style and service. The highly sophisticated complex will feature everything from superb tennis playing and coaching facilities to squash courts, function suites, pools, spas restaurants, gyms and cinemas.

''The Next Generation Club will be a major social hub for the Victory Heights community and members will love it,' continued Lloyd.

Describing the vision about to become reality, U. Balasubramaniam, CEO of Dubai Sports City, said: 'Our ambition at Victory Heights is to extend the freedom and possibilities of life, - to balance active and passive, sport and culture, business and leisure, education and entertainment, individuals and families, open spaces and busy street life.'

The first phase of Victory Heights, the 790 residential units around the golf course, will be available for purchase from the 28th of November 2004 and is scheduled for completion in 2007, timed to coincide with the opening of the four state-of-the-art sports stadia, the golf course, sports academies and sports-related activities and infrastructure.
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NO i dont like it at all too many stadiums too close 25000??? so dont talk about olmypics
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if they can build something like this so quikly and easily in Dubai, the Olympics will be just a walk in the park.
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if they can build something like this so quikly and easily in Dubai, the Olympics will be just a walk in the park.
actually , what he is trying to say is "I dont want Dubai to host the olympics '
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Olympics is not about just building wonderful stadiums quickyl with amazing amounts of money.... i dont think the games will go back to asia so soon after 2008 but who knows maybe cape town and dubai and rio and some others compete for 2020??
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If South Africa can host the WC, Dubai can definitely host the Olympics.
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No offense to South Africa .
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MO RUSH , tell me what a city need to do and have to host the games?
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all sorts of factors
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Safety = Check

Hotel rooms = check

Excellent infrastructure = check

Money = check

Stadiums = check

Is it me or am i missing something
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i have nothing against dubai at all and i can see that people in this forum are level headed and dont make stupid statements like in many other forums..i REALLY REALLY want CT to host the 2020 olympic games cause i luv CT and its time for the games to move to africa immediately after 2016 i think dubai should rather go against buenos aires and rio in 2016 as dubai wud stand a good chance

its amazing to think that CT in 1997 outperformed BA and rio in 1997 when our city was literally an infant and when BA had bid before and almost won but lost by only one vote if CT cud do it then so can dubai and so that if dubai is near some "dangerous" places its a top tourist destination and millions including myself luv dubai and are happy there so there should be no reason why dubai cud not host the games i mean look at NEw york i really luv their bid book and plan but nobody can promise me that it will be safe in 2012 or that nothing will happen in between 2004 and 2012... its not viable....

Regarding the duba sports city is it really necessary to have a hockey stadium?? is hockey big in dubai and i would have rather preferred a hockey stadium that was not so enclosed i prefer what sydney did.....its just less claustrophobic...

the stadium designs are great and simple and allow for further construction to increase its capacity.. one thing i dont like how ever is how its all clustered together space it out a bit..... nice designs and it will certainly impress the IOC but asia will host the games in 2008 Dubai wud need to fight very hard perhaps dubai 2024???
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