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Old November 28th, 2013, 06:22 PM   #61
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That's the really old one.
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Old November 29th, 2013, 12:48 AM   #62
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So why would a four 1000 feet + tower cluster with a neat design look odd at all?
I always feel that varying heights make for a more natural buildup in cityplanning, skyline wise. With to much contrast between the cluster and it's surroundings the area could end up looking like a bunch of (probably good looking) sticks in the sand...
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Old November 29th, 2013, 09:05 AM   #63
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no need to worry though as there will be many other towers varying from 100-400m around them, like this image, but there will be even more towers to the north:

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Old November 29th, 2013, 01:55 PM   #64
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There will be many towers to the north. I think it's a matter of time before the full-block warehouses to the south are redeveloped.
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Old November 30th, 2013, 03:59 AM   #65
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that doesn't seem to be the only change. Where did the setbacks go?
I like it better without them!
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Old November 30th, 2013, 11:41 AM   #66
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I don't. It would make this a very average tower. But it seems we don't have to worry about it:


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The setbacks and the observation deck were never visible from the west, just like Coach's setbacks aren't visible from the east.
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Old November 30th, 2013, 01:59 PM   #67
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Correct. The North and South towers slope back in opposite directions. The North tower's eastern facade slopes and has setbacks (and the protruding observation) deck, and the South tower's west facade slopes and has setbacks. The non-sloping facade of each tower goes straight up. 122 Leadenhall in London, which KPF also designed, is the same in that the non-sloping facade is a vertical cliff that goes straight up
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Old November 30th, 2013, 05:21 PM   #68
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Correct. The North and South towers slope back in opposite directions. The North tower's eastern facade slopes and has setbacks (and the protruding observation) deck, and the South tower's west facade slopes and has setbacks. The non-sloping facade of each tower goes straight up. 122 Leadenhall in London, which KPF also designed, is the same in that the non-sloping facade is a vertical cliff that goes straight up
KPF is also the workhome of themodulorman, who is the once-a-month source of photos from the South Tower construction site. The modulorman produces decent, high-res, overviews.

Geoff Butler is the "senior project manager, structural - HY" who is the source of the low-resolution photos that appear once a month on the
Hudson Yards pinterest page. Mr. Butler has a structural bent to his photos.
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Old December 5th, 2013, 08:41 PM   #69
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Revealed: 50 and 55 Hudson Yards
http://newyorkyimby.com/2013/12/reve...son-yards.html

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Related has new renderings up at Time Warner Center depicting The Hudson Yards, and in addition to dramatic changes for the Equinox Tower, a model depicting 50 and 55 Hudson Yards has been revealed. As YIMBY reported in early October, Related has expanded their presence in the neighborhood dramatically, acquiring the entire block to the north of the railyards. The two new buildings increase the site’s scope by nearly 4 million square feet....

Read more in link
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Old December 5th, 2013, 08:43 PM   #70
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Keep in mind this tower design is still in its infancy.

RW over at the 30HY thread mentioned it has a series of setbacks and as you can see they probably designed it that way so it would not impede the view of 30 HY from the North.

Just look at the base! It is HUGE.. The base covers the whole plot. Orig I had thought that this will be 1,200 ft and I believe based from the photos the height is a little taller than 35 HY. So I revise my estimate for the height for this tower to be 1,100 – 1,150ft tops.
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Old December 5th, 2013, 09:01 PM   #71
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That base could take it so much higher.
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Old December 5th, 2013, 09:10 PM   #72
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That base could take it so much higher.
yea I agree. The good thing it's def not to late to change it. Maybe if they could incorporate a little plaza and just build this taller which they can definitely do.

hopefully, Related will ultimately decide that this will be their new "signature tower" and make this even more epic than 30 HY.
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Certainly has the look of something being limited due to it not being the main piece of the puzzle.

Just keep adding steps maybe 5 or 6 more?

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I'm sorry but that design is awful. What a disappointment :/
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I hope this design changes... It's far too stubby

it's crying for either another 1 or 2 set back levels on top, or for the tower to be slimmer

It has potential, but if it doesn't change it's proportions, then i'll be disappointed
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Old December 5th, 2013, 10:09 PM   #76
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I doubt that this tower will be much taller than 35 HY. It's massive though
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Old December 5th, 2013, 10:14 PM   #77
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I doubt that this tower will be much taller than 35 HY. It's massive though
I agree. For one thing, it will have a massive, full-block, multistory retail component which will eat up a lot of square footage. It will probably be between 1,100 and 1,300 feet.
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These things are unbelievably massive and bulky
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Old December 5th, 2013, 10:22 PM   #79
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It will probably be between 1,100 and 1,300 feet.
Taller than 30 HY would make me happy! Who knows if the commercial office market really start to really pick up, Related could just decide to build this really really tall should the market presents itself.

I wonder if Related will offer this at cost like 30HY and 10HY? If they do, the competition will not be able to compete.

I'm curious, I checked acris the other day and no transactions... Maybe the deal is done or close to being done or it's just taking time for this to reflect in the system? Whatever the case.... if they put it out there with this model , it is probably a done deal.
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Hideous. Disappointing on design and height.
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