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Old May 16th, 2007, 02:40 PM   #281
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I think so. Square/ rectangular floorplates do certainly seem more favourable in office buildings. Rotunda was an all out failure from the beginning.
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Colmore Row Pyramid?

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Old May 16th, 2007, 10:53 PM   #283
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I think so. Square/ rectangular floorplates do certainly seem more favourable in office buildings. Rotunda was an all out failure from the beginning.
With curvy office space you end up paying for space you can't/don't use. It's another reason why Tricorn isn't fully let. http://www.tricornhouse.co.uk/accommodation.htm

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Thanks .
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Old May 17th, 2007, 12:30 AM   #285
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It's also one of the reasons why Swiss Re had problems letting the 30 St Mary Axe.

If you follow this link you can see the inefficiency and wasted space by the window and the core which isn't good if you're paying £60 per sq ft.
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Old May 17th, 2007, 01:03 AM   #286
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It depends though. There is a certain amount of acceptable loss of space for an office where your known globally. If you say your offices in Gherkin, you wouldnt have anyone going 'where is that?'

Good thing is all these new developments push the requirement and expectations for good office space and British Land should be able to produce some very high quality office with a good design.
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Yes this is very true. Most companies in the city are in Finance and I've had the pleasure to deal with several based here. In fact I'm working on a scheme in Moorgate now However, although they have high aspiration, they are still bean counters.

Most businesses still prefer to have accommodation which can support their business in the long term with less wasted space. And companies which are based in the Gherkin are making quite a statement about themselves which not all wish to. I wouldn't have thought businesses in the Gherkin wouldn't have vast volumes of paper filing but another issue with the gherkin if I recall correctly is that due to the natural ventilation there's little space for tall storage.

Bringing this back to the Natwest, the problem here is that the floor plates are too small when compared to the building's footprint. I'm looking forward to seeing what British Land propose, I just hope that it is of high quality design, finish and specification.
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Here is some good news about British Land which bodes well for our Natwest Tower redevelopment.

http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2085761,00.html

British Land gives go-ahead to latest tower of London: the Cheese Grater

Phillip Inman
Wednesday May 23, 2007
The Guardian


British Land joined the growing band of property developers keen to build skyscrapers in London's financial district yesterday after it gave the go-ahead to plans for a wedge-shaped tower nestled between the Lloyd's of London building and the landmark Swiss Re tower, known as the Gherkin.
The 47-storey Leadenhall Building, already nicknamed the "Cheese Grater", is a vote of confidence in London as a financial centre and hub for the global services industry, the company said.

British Land made the announcement as it produced results for 2006 ahead of analysts' expectations and ahead of its closest rivals. The company registered a 13% increase in the net asset value per share - a key measure of the success of property firms - of its property portfolio to £16.82 in the year to the end of March.
It gave a cautious forecast for growth in the next few years but emphasised that the market would remain strong. "2007...#8209;08 will be one of our most active years ... to accelerate portfolio repositioning. The investment market is likely to be more challenging than last year, underlining the importance of value creation from rental growth," it said.

Prime office space is in huge demand in the capital. In the past three years a shortage of new building has pushed up rents to all-time highs and seen buildings bought and sold for record sums. This month the HSBC tower in Canary Wharf became London's first £1bn building.

The mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, has backed several plans for skyscrapers that will change the skyline in the next five years. Other skyscrapers in the pipeline include the 288-metre Pinnacle, which was bought in February by a sharia-compliant offshore fund and will be London's tallest building when completed in 2009-10, and the 72-storey London Bridge Tower - or Shard of Glass - due by 2010-11.

British Land, like most other property companies, delisted from the stock exchange this year and became a real estate investment trust (Reit). The firm paid a £325m one-off charge to become a Reit but in return offloaded £1.7bn of past tax liabilities and future corporation tax.

Stephen Hester, chief executive, said it allowed the company to "rebalance the portfolio". One of the first moves was the sale of One Exchange Square in London, which is the headquarters of the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, for £406m.
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 05:49 PM   #289
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there was a similar article in the birmingham posts business section 2day!
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The development's gunna be called Colmore Centre.
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Not important to the outside world ,but a name that will confuse the forumers a little.How many buildings do we have that are called Colmore something.It's a little like Snow Hill Plaza and what have you.

Anyway,having said that I don't mind the name and I'm looking forward to the plans.

Thanks for the information Erebus.
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well i thought that is the name of the current development that is on site!
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Old June 13th, 2007, 08:55 PM   #293
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Anything else Erebus

please spill the gossip. Though not as exciting as waiting for this weeks Doctor Who - "a pivotal moment in the history of Doctor Who"
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Old June 13th, 2007, 08:56 PM   #294
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According to the Locate Birmingham new developments document this is Colmore Centre - but it does say that it includes the Natwest Tower redevelopment indicating there is more to it than just the tower.
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Old June 13th, 2007, 11:45 PM   #295
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well i wouldnt mind if they took out that shite building behind. you can see it on the right of this pic

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Old June 14th, 2007, 01:14 AM   #296
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Wow - how did you get a cobalt blue sky that perfect? Was that the work of a filter or was it some computer software enhancement of the original image? Very cool!
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It's from Wikipedia, and was taken by moi. I used your bog standard digital camera - no computer wizardry. I used a Fujifilm FinePix A350. Eventhough it got a cool sky, I ended up overexposing the top section.

If you look carefully, you can see a seagull in front of the building.
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hmm. wish i had taken it now. thanks for the photo erebus. i wouldve credited to you if idve known
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It's OK - it's freeuse so you can use it without creditting the photographer.
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Yeah, I spotted the flying creature as well after I posted the last message. Very cool.
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