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Old March 4th, 2008, 05:01 PM   #81
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Somebody sad it at wowTurkey.com

BTW, Akara has got 4 teams in the Süperlig
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Old March 4th, 2008, 05:06 PM   #82
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Somebody sad it at wowTurkey.com

BTW, Akara has got 4 teams in the Süperlig

*ups* yes you're right but 3 play in the same stadium..

-genc
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ankaraspor -> other stadium
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Old March 4th, 2008, 05:08 PM   #83
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I really like the new Besiktas stadium the most! It is really elegant & compact at the same time! What are the latest about its approval, considering the location issues? Do Besiktas own the land? Do they have financing of the project assured or they generally speak about sponsors?
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I really like the new Besiktas stadium the most! It is really elegant & compact at the same time! What are the latest about its approval, considering the location issues? Do Besiktas own the land? Do they have financing of the project assured or they generally speak about sponsors?
they have still trubels with some officials there to get the ground and the necessary permissions to build it..

their aim is to start at May 2008 ... and finish it after 18 months
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Old March 4th, 2008, 06:33 PM   #85
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Istanbul will have one of the best stadium infrastructures in Europe in a few years. Are there any other cities except London with 4 40k+ stadiums?

My fav project is Antalyaspor though.
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Are you sure about Antalya?
Interior sucks
http://www.antalyasporum.com/images/...on/stadyum.jpg

Another one for Istanbul
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I don't like this baby stadiums .. IMO its waste of money and place for little regional clubs!

In turkey there are a lot of big cities without one big stadium and a club because there are hundreds of clubs who play their own thing with their max.10'000 fans.. in a little part of the city

for example In my dream :

Izmir United FC

Ankara United FC

= bigger stadium ! more money ! better players ! better leauge

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Actually i like tis small one. Its small, but compact and for small IStanbulian clubs

Izmir and Ankara clubs will never merge
Its like a BJK + FB + GS = FC Istanbul
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Are you sure about Antalya?
Interior sucks
http://www.antalyasporum.com/images/...on/stadyum.jpg
Ok, interior is a bit of a letdown. It looks quite small, I would have guessed about 20k. But I really like the outside with the circular/oval shape.

Is it already decided which stadiums of Istanbul would be in the Euro bid?
I guess Gala and Atatürk?
Would be a shame to see Besiktas and Fener stadium excluded because of this rule
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No, because we have a new Federation. We have to wair the small expansion of the FB stadium.
Atatürk is big, but awful
BJK is IMO 100% out. Too small.

GS will have the best infrastructure of all Istanbulian stadiums
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Just read it.
Cit gave Besiktas the bus area which located at the north of the stadium and memorial comitee said ok to the new stadium.

So nothing can stop it, because finance is not the problem. (Company will built it with its own moeny, therefore they will get the income of all non football organisations
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Just read it.
Cit gave Besiktas the bus area which located at the north of the stadium and memorial comitee said ok to the new stadium.

So nothing can stop it, because finance is not the problem. (Company will built it with its own moeny, therefore they will get the income of all non football organisations
great news
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Cool! I really like Besiktas stadium design! I still wonder though about the infrastructures! Will it be convienent for fans to commute from and to the stadium? What is planned about this issue?
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It will have only 2,500 car parkings (i think 10% of the capacity woul be better. Therefore they changed the car aprking at the new GS stadium)
I am not sure about the roads aroudn the stadium. i think after matches there will be a huge traffic.
But BJK has got a big advantage. Many fans will sue the ferry
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Using the ferry! Wow, I hope this is practical! Then again I 've been in the City in 2001 and I now it is notorious for its traffic jams
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Actually many fans are using the ferry nowadays
It became a special thing for FB derbies (whole ferry with BJK fans, flames etc. Crossing the Bosphorus towards asia )

BTW g$X.n1
Rize will have a capacity of 15.558
GS is still 52,500 (still unclear if it the vip suites are included. If not it can reach 54,000)
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Actually i like tis small one. Its small, but compact and for small IStanbulian clubs

Izmir and Ankara clubs will never merge
Its like a BJK + FB + GS = FC Istanbul
I understand why Turkish clubs don't won't to merge. But from my the very small amount of research I have just done on Turkey's Super League only 4 Clubs have ever one the league in its 49 year history! They are Fenerbache SK (17 times), Galatasaray SK (16 times), Besiktas JK (10 times) and Trabzonspor (6 times). These then make "the big 4". The interesting thing about Trabzonspor is that they were 2 seperate clubs in Trabzon but were forced to merge by the Turkish Football Federation in order to create 1 club and thus make the Turkish League a more open contest. Will such a scheme happen again? By clubs merging wouldn't it make a more open league.

At the moment Izmir has a big stadium of 58,000. g$X.n1 you said Izmir would get another "main project" would this replace the Izmir Ataturk Stadium or have it redeveloped to Uefa standards?
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If you look at the foundation dates of the "anatolian" clubs you will see that most of them were founded between 1963-1970
The reason is that a minsiter had the idea "all small clubs in a anatolia city should merge into a province club"

Therefore the anatolian clubs are "xy spor" (provincespor. Mainly province is called after the capital of the province)

Only the clubs frm the big 3 cities have "normal" names and "normal" foundation dates

Besiktas JK - 1903
Galatasaray SK - 1905
Fenerbahçe Sk - 1907

Ankara
MKE Ankaragücü SK - 1910
Gençlerbirligi SK - 1923

Izmir
Karşıyaka SK - 1912
Altay SK - 1914
Göztepe GSK - 1925


I do not think that the Izmir club will merge. There is a huge rivalry.
Actually Karsiyaka vs. Göztepe is more a war than a football match.
They have also a record.
May 16th 1981 over 80,000 attended the 2ND LEAGUE match between Karsiyaka and Göztepe.


I hope that Kayserispor and Kayseri Erciyes will merge.


For EUR 2008 a renovation of the Izmir Atatürk stadium was plannd
For the EURO 2012 a football stadium was planned (40,000 as i remember)
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The biggest problem in turkish football is that we have only 4 champion teams.
Ok, nowadys its in Europe the same (England, Spain etc)
But its hard to support your loca team if its younger than you and has got no achievements (maybe typical Mediterranean mentality)
But there are some cup winners clubs like Sakarya Bursa, Eskisehir etc
Those clubs have a huge fan support.

Bursa's stadium has got a capacity of 19,700, but they sell 18,000 season tickets.

Eskisehir had an average of 16,000 in the 3rd league. Looks like they will be in the Süperlig in the next season

I am sure that Bursa, Sakarya or Eskisehir will have an average attendanc of 25-30,000 in the Süperlig in a new modern stadium. Because anoher problem are the old stadiums.
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Fenerbahce are hot now (yesterday CL sevilla)
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