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Old August 12th, 2017, 12:51 AM   #15221
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I sure hope so!
Not one tower broke ground! So no
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Old August 12th, 2017, 01:18 AM   #15222
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... 4 miles is most of the developed city excluding almaden, blossom valley, evergreen. most of the density is closer to DT in the older neighborhoods...
Interesting.
Roughly speaking, half of SJ lives on 45 sq. mi. (a 4 mile radius, about the same area as San Francisco), and the other half lives on about 135 sq. mi. Central density is about 11,400 per square mile, and outlying density is about 3,750. Combined, it's about 5,700.

For comparison, SF density is about 17,700. SF Chinatown clocks in at about 33,700.

On paper, central SJ's density looks high enough to support genuine urbanism, but with so much of the development pattern committed to the automobile, it's going to be a long uphill slog to achieve it.

On this board, we talk at great length about projects that will accommodate perhaps 1% or 2% of the city's population.
Conceptually, our unflagging collective optimism here is a bit like endorsing a Potemkin village:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village
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Old August 12th, 2017, 09:17 AM   #15223
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Interesting.
Roughly speaking, half of SJ lives on 45 sq. mi. (a 4 mile radius, about the same area as San Francisco), and the other half lives on about 130 sq. mi. Central density is about 11,400 per square mile, and outlying density is about 3,950. Combined, it's about 5,900.
FYI, San Jose might officially be 180 sq mi... but a large chunk is rural land: areas in east foothills, Silver Creek, Coyote Valley and bay salt ponds (maybe 60+ sq mi). The developed area is probably less than 120 sq mi., maybe 110.
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Old August 12th, 2017, 08:05 PM   #15224
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https://youtu.be/Ns6h9L7wgxoNice take on Downtown SJ redevelopment, circa 2008
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Old August 12th, 2017, 09:11 PM   #15225
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Crewner's is moving from San Pedro Sq. Market to One-Eleven Market Square: suite 140, which is across the street, later this year.
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Old August 12th, 2017, 09:12 PM   #15226
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https://youtu.be/Ns6h9L7wgxoNice take on Downtown SJ redevelopment, circa 2008
It is an upbeat piece but it makes San Jose cold and dreary.
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Old August 12th, 2017, 10:38 PM   #15227
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It is an upbeat piece but it makes San Jose cold and dreary.
How and what do you mean by that?
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Old August 12th, 2017, 10:39 PM   #15228
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Most of those restaurants aren't even there anymore lol. Such a difference 10 years can make
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Old August 12th, 2017, 10:52 PM   #15229
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FYI, San Jose might officially be 180 sq mi... but a large chunk is rural land: areas in east foothills, Silver Creek, Coyote Valley and bay salt ponds (maybe 60+ sq mi). The developed area is probably less than 120 sq mi., maybe 110.
Very good to know.
I wonder if there's a good source for developed and undeveloped urban land area data.

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Old August 12th, 2017, 11:16 PM   #15230
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Most of those restaurants aren't even there anymore lol. Such a difference 10 years can make
It's all part of evolution of a thriving downtown: nothing stays the and keeps evolving. Proud of downtown progress over the years.
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Old August 13th, 2017, 08:35 PM   #15231
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Vyne Bistro has closed at Paseo De San Antonio downtown

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Old August 13th, 2017, 08:41 PM   #15232
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Cyber Bistro has closed at Paseo De San Antonio downtown
I frequent PSA often and I've never even heard of this place.
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Old August 13th, 2017, 10:01 PM   #15233
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I frequent PSA often and I've never even heard of this place.
In typical DP fashion, he got the name wrong. It's Vyne Bistro.
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In typical DP fashion, he got the name wrong. It's Vyne Bistro.
St&)pid iPhone of mine!
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Old August 13th, 2017, 10:13 PM   #15236
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Apple has invented horrible iPhones!
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Old August 14th, 2017, 05:20 AM   #15237
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Walked by Carl's Jr. today and it's all boarded up. I never went there - but very interested in what's coming next... anyone know? That's a cool building.
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Old August 14th, 2017, 06:17 AM   #15238
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Walked by Carl's Jr. today and it's all boarded up. I never went there - but very interested in what's coming next... anyone know? That's a cool building.
Which Carl's Jr are you referring to? Is it the one on First Street close to Walgreens and across from the northbound LR platform (Santa Clara)?
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Which Carl's Jr are you referring to? Is it the one on First Street close to Walgreens and across from the northbound LR platform (Santa Clara)?
Yep - I guess it used to be La Taqueria...
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Yep - I guess it used to be La Taqueria...
Well, I don't know what that structure will be converted to. Not helping matters: the old Ross Department Store next door is still abandoned to this day. And with a lot of homeless roaming around that area, I feel a bit insecure walking around that area at night, especially after I get out of class at 10pm. It is a shame that the prime commercial strip along First Street between San Fernando and Santa Clara is woefully incomplete (same story as Second Street)... maybe a convenience store would be helpful to further boost its vibrant appeal next to a transit mall. But then, the bigger question is, where best to house the dozens of homeless hanging out on the blocks surrounded by St. James, First, San Fernando, and Second?
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