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Old July 9th, 2018, 12:55 PM   #1
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This project is meant to replace the current MTRH which has outgrown its capacity at a cost of KES 28 billion.

The new structure will have 2,000 beds and an international centre for medical research and tourism. CEO Wilson Aruasa on Tuesday said the project will take up to 200 acres of land at Kiplombe.

"There should be no fears that the project has stalled because we have been planning. Construction will kick off early next year," he said.

"The project is behind schedule due to a long-standing legal battle between MTRH and the Kenya Prison Service over ownership of the land set aside for the project." He said the government has given Sh200 million for the first phase.

The dispute was resolved after the National Land Commission permitted use of the property for the project. It will be hived off the 618 acres belonging to Eldoret GK prison land on the outskirts of Eldoret town, near the airstrip.

"The site has already been surveyed and demarcated and contractors are in the process of planning how to implement the project," he said. The CEO said the new referral facility will de-congest MTRH which caters for patients from Western and Nyanza regions. It will also have a dialysis unit for children.

After completion, the current hospital will be handed over to Uasin Gishu county which does not have a proper referral facility.

Aruasa spoke during the unveiling of a Sh3 million kidney unit at MTRH, following a revamp by Kenya Revenue Authority under its corporate social responsibility programme. KRA board member Rose Waruhiu and the authority's North Rift regional coordinator Florence Otory attended the function. Waruhiu said their CSR focuses on health across the country to ensure quality at all hospitals.
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Is this feasible? Isn't Kabarak building a similarly sized campus?

I do hope they build it to match the renders.
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Old July 9th, 2018, 06:53 PM   #3
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Is this feasible? Isn't Kabarak building a similarly sized campus?

I do hope they build it to match the renders.
Kabarak is a private institution. This is public. And yes its feasible. The current MTRH keeps on growing but has reached its limit.

Not sure we might see this U/C soon given the current financial belt tightening the government will have to do on new projects.
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Looks like it will be bigger than Kenyatta. Hope they can build the same in Mombasa and totally revamp/ expand KNH. Crossing my fingers that someone does not eat the money meant for this project/ shady deals for "redesigns". This project was marred with controversies and the tender broker was blatantly claiming billions for the "connections".
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Kabarak is a private institution. This is public. And yes its feasible. The current MTRH keeps on growing but has reached its limit.

Not sure we might see this U/C soon given the current financial belt tightening the government will have to do on new projects.
This whole campus should be under PPP.

If not it will take a decade to complete.
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This whole campus should be under PPP.

If not it will take a decade to complete.
Not sure how practical the PPP model would be for a public national referral hospital.
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Not sure how practical the PPP model would be for a public national referral hospital.
I read this hospital will be equipped with a hotel for cancer patients. So they could start there and include facilities like conference areas, a small mall, an entertainment center, a wellness spa etc. that will help keep families and patients distracted for the time being.
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I read this hospital will be equipped with a hotel for cancer patients. So they could start there and include facilities like conference areas, a small mall, an entertainment center, a wellness spa etc. that will help keep families and patients distracted for the time being.
You cannot build those additional facilities without the hospital core. Still wondering how the PPP can work for the hospital without it turning into a private entity in practice.
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You cannot build those additional facilities without the hospital core. Still wondering how the PPP can work for the hospital without it turning into a private entity in practice.
https://ppp.worldbank.org/public-pri...hip/ppp-health


https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/industries...alth-ppps.html
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Nice. Though a large chunk of the 2000 beds will go to private patients if this model was used to finance the construction of MTRH.

India may be successful due to its established medical tourism platform. Foreigners pay handsomely for private beds while keeping public rates for the local population. We dont have that luxury in our institutions yet.
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Nice. Though a large chunk of the 2000 beds will go to private patients if this model was used to finance the construction of MTRH.

India may be successful due to its established medical tourism platform. Foreigners pay handsomely for private beds while keeping public rates for the local population. We dont have that luxury in our institutions yet.
Not a whole chunk just a few hundred beds.

Medical tourism is big money and we're perfectly suited to serve our regional countries and more of Africa.

Some deep slaps need to be dished out to the health ministry and have people wake up to the potential.
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Eldoret-based Moi Teaching and Referral Hospital has sought approval to build Africa’s largest hospital with 4,000 beds to service western Kenya’s 24 million people.

South Africa’s Chris Hani Baragwanath Hospital with, 3,400 beds is currently the largest.

According to regulatory filings, the Sh28 billion project, earmarked for construction on 200 acres at Kiplombe on the outskirts of Eldoret town, will complement services offered at its current multi-specialty 1,000-bed centre on Nandi Road.

The report says the 4,000 beds will be accommodated in six multi-storeyed buildings and an accompanying 36 nursing units. It adds that 22 new general outpatient clinics will be hosted in a three-floor complex that will also accommodate a paediatric clinic, thereby easing congestion and fast-tracking dispensation of services to residents.

The notice contained in the Kenya Gazette said a five-floor medical technology block will be put up as well as a separate administration office block with new staff apartments. The plan includes a research development and innovation building on a separate block.

The announcement indicates an end to a raging ownership row with a group of squatters that hampered commencement of the project last year.

The new project dwarfs the biggest referral and regional hospital, Kenyatta National Hospital, that currently has 1,800 beds and 6,000 members of staff.

On Monday, National Environmental Management Authority said it would make its decision known in the next 30 days.

There had been a long-standing legal battle between the hospital and the Kenya Prison Service over ownership of a section of the land. But the dispute was resolved after the National Land Commission permitted the use of the property for the hospital project.
The original post by Kenguy said 2,000 beds. Now they are saying 4,000 beds. Hope that is right
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The two largest hospitals in the world are the Chang Gung Memorial Hospital (10,000 beds) and West China Medical Center of Sichuan University (4,300 beds).

Source: https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/...the-world.html

If this hospital is built to its full supposed 4000 bed capacity, it would be the third largest hospital in the world!
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The original post by Kenguy said 2,000 beds. Now they are saying 4,000 beds. Hope that is right
Will try get clarification on that.
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According to Nema it s 4000 bed capacity
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So if Kenyatta has 6,000 staff, potentially this one could have 12,000+??
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Will try get clarification on that.
I'm just worried about the capacity to run such a huge hospital or we may risk having a huge run down slum/death trap. Look at Pumwani, Kenyatta and Mbagathi/Mama Lucy.

Kenguy, there were plans to completely overhaul Kenyatta. Do you have any inside scoop
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^the worst performing public hospitals seem to be mostly in Nairobi, could there be something in Nairobi that makes it so, which is not in other locations outside Nairobi?
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Does a large population come to mind?
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I'm just worried about the capacity to run such a huge hospital or we may risk having a huge run down slum/death trap. Look at Pumwani, Kenyatta and Mbagathi/Mama Lucy.

Kenguy, there were plans to completely overhaul Kenyatta. Do you have any inside scoop
I dont have any inside scoop on KNH. Nor would I wait for any. The rot is really deep.
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