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Old November 24th, 2018, 01:51 AM   #21
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Refused again thankfully:

https://www.insidermedia.com/insider...-block-refused
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Old November 24th, 2018, 02:33 PM   #22
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I'm confused over the reasons for refusal, can't see this working as functional office space anymore, wasn't this a useful transformation of what is an awful looking block, or wasn't it transformative enough?
Personally like to see it bulldozed and something more aesthetically pleasing proposed.
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Old November 24th, 2018, 02:51 PM   #23
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MCR Properties just need to scrap this project and focus more on getting Monaco House out of the ground. No need to be faffing around with this building anymore.
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Old November 24th, 2018, 05:44 PM   #24
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I'm confused over the reasons for refusal, can't see this working as functional office space anymore, wasn't this a useful transformation of what is an awful looking block, or wasn't it transformative enough?
Personally like to see it bulldozed and something more aesthetically pleasing proposed.
What was the reason for refusal?
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Old November 24th, 2018, 08:08 PM   #25
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What was the reason for refusal?
More or less the same as the one on page 1.

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1 The information submitted fails to demonstrate that the application site is B1(a) and that it would benefit from the provisions under Schedule 2, Part 3, Class O of the Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) Order 2015.
And after a quick Google. The Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) Order 2015:

Sec 2, part 3, Class O:

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Class O – offices to dwellinghouses
Permitted development
O. Development consisting of a change of use of a building and any land within its curtilage from a use falling within Class B1(a) (offices) of the Schedule to the Use Classes Order, to a use falling within Class C3 (dwellinghouses) of that Schedule.

Development not permitted
O.1 Development is not permitted by Class O if—

(a)the building is on article 2(5) land;
(b)the building was not used for a use falling within Class B1(a) (offices) of the Schedule to the Use Classes Order—
(i)on 29th May 2013, or
(ii)in the case of a building which was in use before that date but was not in use on that date, when it was last in use;
(c)the use of the building falling within Class C3 (dwellinghouses) of that Schedule was begun after 30th May 2016;
(d)the site is, or forms part of, a safety hazard area;
(e)the site is, or forms part of, a military explosives storage area;
(f)the building is a listed building or is within the curtilage of a listed building; or
(g)the site is, or contains, a scheduled monument.

Conditions
O.2 Development under Class O is permitted subject to the condition that before beginning the development, the developer must apply to the local planning authority for a determination as to whether the prior approval of the authority will be required as to—

(a)transport and highways impacts of the development;
(b)contamination risks on the site; and
(c)flooding risks on the site,
and the provisions of paragraph W (prior approval) apply in relation to that application.
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Old November 24th, 2018, 08:55 PM   #26
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Knock it down build something decent
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MCR property have instructed GCW to sell this now, thankfully. Hopefully we’ll see a complete rebuild then some half arsed quick fix as originally planned.
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MCR property have instructed GCW to sell this now, thankfully. Hopefully we’ll see a complete rebuild then some half arsed quick fix as originally planned.
Second piece of good news in a day along these lines The original plans were terrible and a demo and rebuild is definitely the way to go here. Never filled me with confidence regarding Monaco ever getting off the ground with what they put forward here.

The neighbouring car park was recently put up for sale and sold by the council unsure who to but it might make the economics of a decent project more feasible if it could be put together as one site.
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Old May 13th, 2019, 08:18 PM   #29
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MCR property have instructed GCW to sell this now, thankfully. Hopefully we’ll see a complete rebuild then some half arsed quick fix as originally planned.



Do you believe they intend to build New Monaco Birmingham?
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Old May 13th, 2019, 08:26 PM   #30
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Second piece of good news in a day along these lines The original plans were terrible and a demo and rebuild is definitely the way to go here. Never filled me with confidence regarding Monaco ever getting off the ground with what they put forward here.

The neighbouring car park was recently put up for sale and sold by the council unsure who to but it might make the economics of a decent project more feasible if it could be put together as one site.

What was the first?
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Old May 13th, 2019, 08:29 PM   #31
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What was the first?
The square on Broad Street up for sale as well and not going down the route of an awful conversion also that we are stuck with forever.
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