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Old January 3rd, 2014, 11:41 AM   #21
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Excellent work SE9. So much going on and to look forward to.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 01:28 PM   #22
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Brentford Community Stadium

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  • Home ground of Brentford football club
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Brentford announce new stadium developers

Wilmott Dixon will make club's vision for a new home at Lionel Road a reality

Having been granted planning permission for their new stadium development last month, Brentford FC has selected Willmott Dixon as its preferred development partner.

The planning application includes a 20,000 capacity stadium at Lionel Road South, together with other community facilities, 910 new homes, and a hotel and supporting retail uses.


However, it remains subject to referral to the Mayor of London and the Secretary of State and conclusion of a Section 106 Agreement.

Chris Gammon, Co-director of Lionel Road Developments, announced that Willmott Dixon had been selected following a robust process.

He said: “Soon after submitting our Planning Application in May 2013 we began the process of identifying a partner to work on this exciting and challenging scheme. We have had a high level of interest and it has been a difficult job narrowing it down to one company to enter into detailed negotiations on a development agreement. All the short-listed bidders showed considerable understanding of the challenges and put a great deal of work into areas such as architectural design.

"Hounslow Council officers have been focused on the deliverability of our scheme and we believe that the Club and Willmott Dixon have in place a sound commercial model and sensitive design approach which will do a great deal to meet the concerns of local residents. We recognise we have to await the views of London and Central Governments before progressing to the next stage.”

Andrew Telfer, divisional chief executive at Willmott Dixon Regen, added: “We’re delighted that Brentford Football Club has chosen us as preferred bidder and are looking forward to working with the Club to take forward these exciting plans that will deliver a fantastic new stadium and new homes in a superb and desirable location close to good transport links.

“Willmott Dixon also shares a strong commitment with Brentford FC that our work should enhance the surrounding community. Alongside a new purpose-built home for the club, these proposals will provide facilities to benefit the wider community, attract further inward investment to create business and job opportunities and enhance the area as an attractive place to live.

“We have a proven track-record of taking forward similar high-quality developments in Tower Hamlets, Greenwich and Westminster that utilize our skill-sets for delivering substantial residential accommodation within a wider a regeneration, and look forward to working with Brentford FC to create a bright new future for the club and this part of Hounslow.”
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Old January 7th, 2014, 01:31 PM   #23
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So Boris and the Chinese are going to build a massive skyscraper at CW. Will it be Citypride or are the Chinese the actual backers of the mysterious Irish developer that has bought Columbus??? Stay tuned.
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So Boris and the Chinese are going to build a massive skyscraper at CW. Will it be Citypride or are the Chinese the actual backers of the mysterious Irish developer that has bought Columbus??? Stay tuned.
They say the building will be taller than One Canada Square, but journalists aren't always brilliant on these details, and with Citypride being so close in height that could still be a possibility. Only other one I could think of is South Quay Plaza, which as far as I know is still at the same kind of planning stage as the Hertsmere, perhaps even further along as the SQ tower has actually had a scoping application filed (I was surprised to still nothing at all on the council site about the Hertsmere one). Given the news coverage recently though that's probably still where the smart money is, and if Boris is backing it it'll be sure to get approval.

I bet Simon Jenkins feels rather stupid for his support of Johnson's supposed anti-highrise policies...
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Old January 7th, 2014, 02:29 PM   #25
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South Quay Plaza is Berkley homes and they won't need any cash injections to build so the smart money has to be on Citypride as they need the money to build and it has planning permission.

Still good start to the year and looking like yet another tower that could have been in limbo has some serious money behind it.
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Yes that's probably right, and reading it back the mention of affordable housing in the tower made me think Citypride more than Hertsmere (not sure if that tower will have any onsite at all?). Again the taller thing is probably just journalistic error.

Will make a major change to the skyline with two 220m+ buildings rising in close proximity.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 03:19 PM   #27
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Citypride would be my bet, but there's a tiny chance it could be some sort of agreement to build Riverside South as resi even if the floor plans don't really suit this. It's ever so slightly taller than One Canada Square.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 05:09 PM   #28
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Citypride would be my bet, but there's a tiny chance it could be some sort of agreement to build Riverside South as resi even if the floor plans don't really suit this. It's ever so slightly taller than One Canada Square.
If Boris is involved and mentions affordable housing and being the tallest tower it's bound to be an oven ready scheme like citypride. If it was RS Boris wouldn't be involved and you would think JP Morgan would be mentioned in news reports. Besides it would require a whole new planning app with no guarantee the useless tower Hamlets would approve it
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Old January 7th, 2014, 06:17 PM   #29
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Just a quick question, but what would happen if somebody who hates skyscrapers got elected as a mayor of London? Would they have the power to change the approved status of skyscrapers that haven't broken ground and reject them? And also, would they have the power to step in and reject future skyscraper proposals irregardless of what the councils say? (Just like Boris does, but for the approval of towers)
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Old January 7th, 2014, 06:31 PM   #30
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Boris was anti skyscraper and nothing really changed.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 07:29 PM   #31
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China's Greenland Invests $1.97 Billion in London Projects

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SHANGHAI—Chinese state-owned conglomerate Greenland Holding Group has invested £1.2 billion ($1.97 billion) in two development projects in London in its latest expansion abroad.

The Shanghai-based developer said Tuesday it has purchased the historic Ram Brewery development site in the Wandsworth area of London, which is valued at £600 million. It plans to redevelop the site into apartments, social-housing units and commercial space.

Greenland said it is planning to invest another £600 million in a project at London's Canary Wharf near the River Thames with a gross floor area of 98,000 square meters that it plans to develop into the U.K's tallest luxury residential housing project.

"London is the world's financial capital and is the most international city in Europe, with a mature economy," said Greenland Chairman Zhang Yuliang, who recently met with London Mayor Boris Johnson. He said he expects the London housing market to continue to rise this year after posting average gains of 10% in 2013.

Greenland is among several high-profile mainland Chinese property companies that have gone on an overseas shopping spree over the past year, purchasing big real-estate projects in places like New York, Los Angeles and Sydney.

Greenland said it is looking to invest $5 billion to $8 billion in new projects abroad this year and that it is specifically looking to places like Canada, France and Singapore.

The firm said it expects revenue from its overseas operations to exceed 13 billion yuan ($2.1 billion) this year and 30 billion yuan next year, up from an expected 2.5 billion yuan in 2013.

Greenland is acquiring the Ram Brewery site—which housed the original brewery of British pub chain Young & Co's Brewery YNGA.LN -1.30% PLC—from a property group backed by ARES Capital Management and Delancey Real Estate Asset Management Ltd. The 7.75-acre site is sold with planning permission for 661 new homes, including a 36-story tower with 166 flats and 9,500 square meters of shops, cafes and restaurants.

"Our efforts to date, together with Greenland's world-class development expertise, will mean that this long awaited scheme finally happens for Wandsworth," said Paul Goswell, managing director of Delancey.

Greenland, which isn't listed in mainland China but has a unit listed in Hong Kong, said last month that it issued additional shares to five private-equity investors for 11.73 billion yuan, which it will use to fuel its expansion.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 07:51 PM   #32
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Boris was anti skyscraper and nothing really changed.
But was he really, he might of trimmed a couple of sightlines, but almost every other action has been to push through large building projects and rubber stamp tall buildings.

I don't think a lot of people took a balanced view when it came to Boris.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 08:09 PM   #33
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But was he really, he might of trimmed a couple of sightlines, but almost every other action has been to push through large building projects and rubber stamp tall buildings.

I don't think a lot of people took a balanced view when it came to Boris.
I think a lot of Boris fans have a very short memory (despite them being reminded every time they bring this half truth up) and really should take a more balanced view. Boris did campaign on an anti-high rise policy especially with his deputy Simon Milton from Conservative Westminster who was virulently opposed to highrise's and used his new position in City Hall to actively contest the Blackfriars and Waterloo tower amongst others. Had he been successful you would probably see about half the proposals we currently have.

That 'mere' trimming of a few sightlines scuppered numerous proposals including a Rogers tower at Broadgate and ruined the decades old plan to improve E&C with tall slender towers. Now because of a pointless new view in Hyde Park the E&C will largely be full of stumpy and blocky towers and the planned large piazza will be nothing by a cgi.

It was only when Boris realised for all his bluster he couldn't really help his heritage chums as most of the towers they opposed ( which is practically all and any) couldn't be stopped as they were backed by sound planning policies and over time Boris he has moved away from the Heritage mob (especially when Miltion died) and learned to love towers and large scale regeneration projects and is now even seen by some as being as much in love with towers as his predecessor.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 08:26 PM   #34
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News regarding a mystery CW tower (odds-on City Pride), Thames Quay and Millharbour Village in one day. Not bad at all!
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Old January 7th, 2014, 08:33 PM   #35
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One thing practically all mayors and leaders of cities love - or learn to love - is development. That's partly because housing is always a huge issue for residents - along with transport and crime it's the major local urban concern -, but it's also because in most places a huge slice of a city's tax base is related to property in some form.

Who knows whether Boris eventually woke to the fact his original anti-high rise agenda was harmful, but I suspect he soon saw that he could bring in cash under various rights the mayor had, whether for social housing, crossrail, etc, money that was independent from Whitehall grants - i.e. a rare form of autonomous revenue.
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what would happen if somebody who hates skyscrapers got elected as a mayor of London?
If there is $ 2 billion at stake, every mayor would show up as pro-skyscraper
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Old January 10th, 2014, 03:13 PM   #37
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Boris did campaign on an anti-high rise policy especially with his deputy Simon Milton from Conservative Westminster who was virulently opposed to highrise's and used his new position in City Hall to actively contest the Blackfriars and Waterloo tower amongst others. Had he been successful you would probably see about half the proposals we currently have.

That 'mere' trimming of a few sightlines scuppered numerous proposals including a Rogers tower at Broadgate and ruined the decades old plan to improve E&C with tall slender towers. Now because of a pointless new view in Hyde Park the E&C will largely be full of stumpy and blocky towers and the planned large piazza will be nothing by a cgi.

It was only when Boris realised for all his bluster he couldn't really help his heritage chums as most of the towers they opposed ( which is practically all and any) couldn't be stopped as they were backed by sound planning policies and over time Boris he has moved away from the Heritage mob (especially when Miltion died) and learned to love towers and large scale regeneration projects and is now even seen by some as being as much in love with towers as his predecessor.
Rubbish. If you look back to the time of the mayoral campaign, you will see me pointing out over and over again in many threads in the London forum how paranoid people here were getting about Boris's approach to tall buildings. He explicitly said he was in favour of them, telling architects he wanted them to "distinguish the skyline" with new tall buildings. One comment he made about some suburban centres in outer London being inappropriate for skyscrapers was taken out of context by many here, who painted him as a reactionary who was going to turn the whole city into a two-story mock-Tudor theme park.

When I finally lost patience with the paranoia, here's what I posted in the Boris thread (on 3 May 2008):

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I'm finding this whole site pretty difficult to look at today - so much hysteria about Johnson, as if he's about to pull the plug on every project in London. I voted against him, but I've seen nothing to suggest he'll do anything of the sort. Planning played a very small part in his campaign; his few statements on it haven't been entirely consistent; he has however repeatedly said, and written, that tall buildings need to be part of London's development. He's also repeated that he wants to protect the viewing corridors for St Paul's and Parliament Square.

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Addressing an audience of property industry professionals at central London’s Café Royal on Thursday (January 31), Johnson stressed he was “not against tall buildings” and would want to encourage “wonderful new developments”.

Highlighting Cesar Pelli’s [One Canada Square], he said: “The Conservatives were behind some of the great, wonderful property developments that now distinguish the London skyline.”

“I hope to play my own part in helping you to distinguish the London skyline.”


Everyone should chill out and wait to see what he does when he's in office. What politicians say on the campaign trail and what they do once they have major decisions to make (and experts advising them) are not always one and the same.

I'm going to give this site a miss for a few weeks.
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He never had an anti-high rise agenda. That was purely in SSC forumers' fevered imaginations.
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Old January 10th, 2014, 04:12 PM   #38
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Sorrry OD, you have selective memory loss again. Everytime you and other brought it up I stated the facts I have given above.

He and Milton did campaign on an anti-high rise agenda and the subsequent letters once elected trying to undermine the ongoing PI's into the Blackfriar and Waterloo towers as well as bringing in new sight lines and narrowing existing ones was a sup to the Heritage lobby that backed them. Not sure how anyone could dispute the facts and hard evidence.

Once Milton departed and the Mayor realised he can't do much about influencing planning inquiries which is largely based on planning laws and policies he cooled his rhetoric and once in the role realised the economic benefits these large projects bring he has now got the opposite view which is no bad thing.

PS. I am not coming at this from an anti Boris stance (and we all know there are some who will always think the Sun shines out of his ass just as there are those who think he is the devil incarnate no matter what he does).

He has changed his stance now (and this was more obvious as he grew into his Mayoral role and realised how things work) and now he has another Tory deputy in Lister who is the polar opposite of Milton who are both very much pro-growth and pro- big developments and more than happy to support towers now and infact are now the ones to challenge people like Westminster which is the complete opposite when Boris and Milton came into power as they were seen to be actively backing Westminster council.
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Old January 10th, 2014, 04:19 PM   #39
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He changes his views depending on his audience. His audience hears what they want to hear.

What can't be denied though is towers proposed under his tenure are simply not as exemplary as ones under the previous. There is distinct lack of design promotion from the top down regarding masterplans and schemes brought forward, and no wonder, with the administration scrapping various design bodies set up to promote good design. That is, unless it is a 'pet project', which suddenly sees all manner of creativity and quick planning approvals no matter what.
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Old January 10th, 2014, 07:27 PM   #40
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I really don't think there has ever been any causal link between the Mayoralty and skyscraper design.
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