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View Poll Results: Should Birmingham's current library stay or go?
English Heritage should list it and find an alternative use 21 30.43%
Birmingham Council should demolish it and rebuild a new library close by 37 53.62%
I want to see exactly what would be built on the site of the current library first? 11 15.94%
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 08:06 PM   #1
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Should Birmingham Library "Stay" or "Go"?

Quite simple really, this relates to the current Library which could possibly be listed as protected building by English Heritage. Plans are afoot to replace it with a futuristic modern piece of architecture on land in between the Rep and Baskerville House, the current site of the existing library would be used for modern offices or alike and possibly re-joining Chamberlain Square with Centenary Square.
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 08:15 PM   #2
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I say "go" because my preferred option is for a new library and a Brindleyplace-esque development at Paradise
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 08:28 PM   #3
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I say retain the ziggurat and convert to a contemporary art gallery. Scrap away the rest.
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I want to see the new plans for the new Library, and I would like to see if it would actually be possible to build around the thing, it's not in the ideal position, and although the Chermbelin square is okey round the back it's a complete multilayer maze, could you make sense of all that?
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 08:46 PM   #5
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Provided we had some rough guide as to what will be rebuilt on current library land I also would say go... but this is quite important that we don't end up with something that is not beneficial to the average Brummie or visitor to the city.
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 08:51 PM   #6
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I think it would also bolster the Council's argument to demolish if we could see what we would be getting in place of the existing building... an argument for re integrating New Street into Broad Street... creating a perfect route for any future carnival or street parade etc
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 09:54 PM   #7
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Blow it! It's impractical and symbolic of an era in Birmingham's history which we need to move on from. Although, we should not rid all examples for this era - just the ones that restrict the progress of the city itself.
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 10:54 PM   #8
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None of those it should be preserved and continue to be Birminghams central library.
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 11:07 PM   #9
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English Heritage in disguise, English Heritage in disguise!
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 11:10 PM   #10
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Get rid of it, i don't know how, i don't know when but we need to remove this blot fromour city. Hopefully some biggies will appear in the redevelopment plans.
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 11:11 PM   #11
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I'm yet to hear a good argument for keeping it
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 11:20 PM   #12
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Get rid of it, i don't know how, i don't know when but we need to remove this blot fromour city. Hopefully some biggies will appear in the redevelopment plans.
Is this the place for really tall buildings? They would loom over the council house and town hall ect and would probably have a worse effect on them than the library does atm. And no i do not support EH on the whole but in this case i sort of do.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 12:00 AM   #13
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I say retain the ziggurat and convert to a contemporary art gallery. Scrap away the rest.
Agreed.

Though, I fully expect to see a smiling Whitby at the controls of a wrecking ball.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 12:11 AM   #14
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I like walking through the library to Baskerville house, so I'd want the library building to stay even if it isn't used as a library. Building a new library elsewhere (but still close) would be a positive move.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 12:18 AM   #15
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Is this the place for really tall buildings? They would loom over the council house and town hall ect and would probably have a worse effect on them than the library does atm. And no i do not support EH on the whole but in this case i sort of do.
Yes, as previous council plans have been designed including tall towers. Even rumoured to be 1000footers but this is a bit exagerrated. In short yes it is. The Natwest tower proposal shows how you can build tall and still enhance the area's image.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 12:21 AM   #16
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Also Alpha Tower and the proposed V building are the same distance away if not a bit closer.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 02:16 AM   #17
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This building needs to be listed immediately.

You can say what you like about the central library but it is a million times more stark, noticeable and imposing than any generic office buildings that replace it will be.

This building is controversial, that's what makes it so great, the fact people are so passionate about it on both sides, who can be sure people like me won't ultimately prevail in our opinions on its brilliance? We just don't know, because controversy can sway opinions both ways, so why demolish it and then look back in 20 years time and realise we lost a defining building that could have stood as a monument to 70's architecture?

I think the architectural criticisms of this building are used (by the council in particular) to cover up the reality, which is that it will be cheaper for the council to sell off the land, see the library demolished and replaced with bland office buildings (that will no doubt be clad in those god awful terracotta tiles that seem to be taking over the world), and then offer some unimaginative traffic solutions than it would be to create a world class urban space which puts the library at its heart.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 12:34 PM   #18
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Yep, keep it, and rip out the awful Paradise Forum and reinstate the original open space...maybe use it for concerts and street theatre to attract people to admire the space. You could leave the roof on though !
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Old June 24th, 2008, 06:21 PM   #19
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I think the building would look out of place with the new structures build around it. Thats why i think it is a decision that it either stays or gets replaced.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 06:30 PM   #20
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I say retain the ziggurat and convert to a contemporary art gallery. Scrap away the rest.
Absolutely. Get shot of all the crap around it, which will still open up the area, but keep the Zigazoid. Modern art... perfect.
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