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Old December 15th, 2019, 10:38 AM   #2441
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Old December 17th, 2019, 01:37 PM   #2445
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Old December 19th, 2019, 06:25 AM   #2446
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From this angle Telekom tower/mid valley/kl sentral area building look dense!
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Old December 21st, 2019, 06:31 AM   #2448
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Old December 21st, 2019, 06:47 AM   #2449
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Old December 21st, 2019, 03:48 PM   #2452
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Sometimes I’m glad that KL is located inland in a valley and not by the coast like most other major cities.
In the recently released simulation of sea level rise in the next decade, KL was the only major city in Southeast Asia spared from the approaching ocean.
This will allow further undeterred growth of our capital city, while others need to grapple with the crisis of the rising sea (or sinking ground).

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Old December 21st, 2019, 07:15 PM   #2453
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Sometimes Iím glad that KL is located inland in a valley and not by the coast like most other major cities.
In the recently released simulation of sea level rise in the next decade, KL was the only major city in Southeast Asia spared from the approaching ocean.
This will allow further undeterred growth of our capital city, while others need to grapple with the crisis of the rising sea (or sinking ground).

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Sorry OOT. Maybe Jakarta skyline without Gigatall or close to, when National Capital Integrated Coastal Development (NCICD) or Giant Sea Wall, finished
But, the skyline will growth more attractive when this new border of coastal finished
NCICD build inspired by all major cities in Netherland whic's under sea level



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Old December 21st, 2019, 07:22 PM   #2454
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Good luck Jakarta since you are the most possible city in Asean to be under sea level in the next decades to come, hope you'll enjoy the sea.
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Old December 22nd, 2019, 03:28 AM   #2455
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Rising sea level is a global crisis, KL’s main port will also be affected, and the satellite cities to the west of KL. No need to be mean.

Jakarta’s impressive sea walls will be a symbol of mankind’s ingenuity and resilience against natural forces. It will be amazing.
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Old December 22nd, 2019, 06:41 AM   #2456
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Many parts of Amsterdam have been under the sea level for so long. They are still doing OK. Engineering is the key.
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Old December 22nd, 2019, 07:34 AM   #2457
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Well! Netherlands is about one third of the Netherlands lies below sea level, with the lowest point being 22 feet (6.7 meters) below sea level and they did a good job already and hope engineering in the next decade will work to a greater height!
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KL will NOT be spared from rising sea level crisis. At least not directly. Sinking of West Klang Valley will force people to migrate further inland. And KL doesn't have enough land to the East to support those migrations. Titiwangsa Range is too fragile to support massive housing development. Not to mention how it will also disrupt nature reserves, water catchment area, and Indigenous' 'tanah adat'. It will lead to social problems and unrest.

Jakarta should not rely too much on seawalls either. The reason why Netherland works because there are no major fault lines there that can trigger megathrust earthquakes and tsunami. Look at what happened to Tohoku, Japan during the 2011 major earthquake. Their 'state-of-the-art' sea walls do nothing to prevent tsunami from drowning their cities. And some of those areas behind the seawalls are still submerged until today. One earthquake slightly less powerful as 2004 will be more than enough to crack open any seawall that human made. Going back to Netherland, its not that their seawalls works all the time either. Powerful storm surges managed to break them several times in the past, causing widespread destruction. Jusk look for North Sea Flood of 1953. Technology can be deceiving. Its a product of human ego. And the force of nature is bigger than that.

We are doomed anyway. Let's just enjoy our life to the fullest.
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KL will NOT be spared from rising sea level crisis. At least not directly. Sinking of West Klang Valley will force people to migrate further inland. And KL doesn't have enough land to the East to support those migrations. Titiwangsa Range is too fragile to support massive housing development. Not to mention how it will also disrupt nature reserves, water catchment area, and Indigenous' 'tanah adat'. It will lead to social problems and unrest.

Jakarta should not rely too much on seawalls either. The reason why Netherland works because there are no major fault lines there that can trigger megathrust earthquakes and tsunami. Look at what happened to Tohoku, Japan during the 2011 major earthquake. Their 'state-of-the-art' sea walls do nothing to prevent tsunami from drowning their cities. And some of those areas behind the seawalls are still submerged until today. One earthquake slightly less powerful as 2004 will be more than enough to crack open any seawall that human made. Going back to Netherland, its not that their seawalls works all the time either. Powerful storm surges managed to break them several times in the past, causing widespread destruction. Jusk look for North Sea Flood of 1953. Technology can be deceiving. Its a product of human ego. And the force of nature is bigger than that.

We are doomed anyway. Let's just enjoy our life to the fullest.
I know we are veering off topic but I do think it's relevant to the development of cities throughout the world and how we handle the situation. Click on the link for the projected submerging of lands around Klang Valley and other regions of the world by 2050.

https://coastal.climatecentral.org/m...odel=kopp_2014
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