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Old December 4th, 2019, 09:25 AM   #1521
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Better than the National Socialist Party did.
incorrect, add the houses not going to be built because Cindy stuck her nose in over the Market Garden near the Airport and those lost due to the eastern bus link your in negative.

National to howls of protest started the East Tamaki regeneration project , to Labours credit this has been extended to four other areas in Auckland with not a protest in sight. Ok when the left do it.
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Old December 4th, 2019, 10:10 AM   #1522
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Do you support min sentences for assaults on first responders, or should we just give them a hug?

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/12/t..._assaults.html
How about Simon giving them a 5 hour speech for 60 days in a row as part of community service?

Or would that be too inhumane?

There are still prisons you know and beds as well, unlike some who used to live in cars, although that should be reduced now.

The coalition have just announced spending of $400 million to catch up on maintenance on schools which had been deferred under National. Simple things like fixing gutters and new asphalt. No doubt you will consider that a waste of money?
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Old December 4th, 2019, 08:12 PM   #1523
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A discussion on politics would be great rather than just meaningless point scoring jibes by fan boys of both political wings.
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Old December 4th, 2019, 09:36 PM   #1524
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All politicians are self serving idiots. Can we close the thread now haha
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Old December 5th, 2019, 01:33 AM   #1525
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The problem with politics is that it's like religion, everybody believes what they believe, and no amount of argument will change that.

It is important to be able to have an open platform to discuss both, however, otherwise most people will remain ignorant of the big questions in life, and be no better than cannon fodder come election time.
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Old December 5th, 2019, 05:13 AM   #1526
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How about Simon giving them a 5 hour speech for 60 days in a row as part of community service?

Or would that be too inhumane?

There are still prisons you know and beds as well, unlike some who used to live in cars, although that should be reduced now.

The coalition have just announced spending of $400 million to catch up on maintenance on schools which had been deferred under National. Simple things like fixing gutters and new asphalt. No doubt you will consider that a waste of money?
I would not wish that on anyone
Agree maintenance funds are not a waste but.
1 Why are integrated Schools not included.
2.Why do New Schools receive funds?
3.Why the 2 year limit? Why not over a slightly longer period to allow industry to cope and proper planing to be done.

It is a typical ill thought out law to attract a headline.

Where is the link to confirm maintenance spending was reduced.
Still waiting on the link for the Prison build.
You did not answer if you were in favour of prison sentences for assaults on first responders, i am.
Do you support the proposal to have up to four years imprisonment for those who supply under 20's with dope?

Keep smoking your 14 grams a day
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Old December 5th, 2019, 05:31 AM   #1527
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So Parliament went into urgency over an average of $3000 a year

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/12/s....html#comments

And Cindy admits it does not close loopholes.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...loopholes.html

Even more rushed ill thought out law to grab a headline.
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Old December 5th, 2019, 05:34 AM   #1528
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Completely agree. More tinkering dressed as transformational change. Makes for good Guardian headlines.

Meanwhile they are moving at a glacial pace with infrastructure and construction industry.
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Old December 5th, 2019, 05:36 AM   #1529
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More dirt on NZF .
FFS this Jones clown has control over $3000 million dollars of our money

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/12/j...questions.html
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Old December 5th, 2019, 08:04 AM   #1530
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Labour block former NZF President and Treasurer from giving evidence to Justice select committee

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA19...y-dealings.htm

Most open and transparent Government ever.
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Old December 5th, 2019, 12:10 PM   #1531
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The problem with politics is that it's like religion, everybody believes what they believe, and no amount of argument will change that.

It is important to be able to have an open platform to discuss both, however, otherwise most people will remain ignorant of the big questions in life, and be no better than cannon fodder come election time.
Agree... and there is a striking difference between stating your political view and denigrating people or other political parties just because you don't agree with their political view.

People need to remember that politics is entirely about policies, and not politicians. Many people tend to make political statements that are aimed at criticising politicians rather than criticising policy.

For example, it would be fine to say "Increasing taxes is just dumb becuase blah blah" as that is your opinion and its about policy... But saying "Jacinda is a moron because she put up taxes and doesn't know what she is doing" isn't really good substance for a healthy political debate because it's about a politician.

Unfortunately this is the key reason why unregulated political discussions typically end up being heated and often nasty is because we get wound up over differences of opinion which invariably spill over into criticisms of politicans, which then spills over onto criticisms of people that support different views...
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Old December 6th, 2019, 04:59 AM   #1532
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I would not wish that on anyone
Agree maintenance funds are not a waste but.
1 Why are integrated Schools not included.
2.Why do New Schools receive funds?
3.Why the 2 year limit? Why not over a slightly longer period to allow industry to cope and proper planing to be done.

It is a typical ill thought out law to attract a headline.

Where is the link to confirm maintenance spending was reduced.
Still waiting on the link for the Prison build.
You did not answer if you were in favour of prison sentences for assaults on first responders, i am.
Do you support the proposal to have up to four years imprisonment for those who supply under 20's with dope?

Keep smoking your 14 grams a day
Actually I would prefer a public whipping and the stocks for ALL assaults as an alternative to Simon. I am an older person and prefer old solutions.

Two Things you may not know.

1) I do not smoke anything. It is bad for your health and you should think of your body as a castle.
2) I have never smoked dope-Can you say the same?

I am not bothered at this stage about the referendum but will wait until it is finalised. If it is also proposed for booze I might support it. If you have had a relative killed by a drunk driver you might think about it as well. As far as I am concerned if you legislate for one you should legislate for both.
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Old December 8th, 2019, 01:26 AM   #1533
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Bad National, how a simple graph can be manipulated.

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/12/bad_nat_stat.html
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Old December 9th, 2019, 05:21 AM   #1534
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Labour good for Health?

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/12/6...surgeries.html

Elective surgeries down first time in 10 years by 6000

Cancer patients treated on time down from 93.2 to 87.6%
ED patients seen within six hours down from 93.1 to 90.0%
Immunisation rates down from 92.2 to 90.1
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Old December 9th, 2019, 09:14 PM   #1535
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Honestly mate, if people want to be spoon fed right wing spin they can simply just log onto Kiwiblog every day themselves without you pretending to be a Talkback host.
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Old December 10th, 2019, 08:05 AM   #1536
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Honestly mate, if people want to be spoon fed right wing spin they can simply just log onto Kiwiblog every day themselves without you pretending to be a Talkback host.
Some people call it "spin".
Others call it crapola.
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Old December 12th, 2019, 04:33 AM   #1537
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Public sector CEO's doing very nicely .
53 earn more then the PM.
113 earn more then the DPM
4 earn more the 750 K
50 earn more then 500K
79 earn more then 400K

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/12/t...rich_list.html
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Old December 12th, 2019, 10:06 PM   #1538
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Honestly mate, if people want to be spoon fed right wing spin they can simply just log onto Kiwiblog every day themselves without you pretending to be a Talkback host.
Actually no. I appreciate the updates here from Robnobbob. Dont talk on behalf of others here please.

Keep the updates coming Rob
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Old December 12th, 2019, 10:16 PM   #1539
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In the meantime Simon Bridges wants to arrest beggars hahahaha
Funny you say this. There has been a noticeable difference in beggars on the streets in Wellington since 2017. Perhaps its part of a bigger problem?

Revealed: The Public Sector CEO Rich List: (its not just on kiwiblog)
https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/ceo_rich_list

Halving the salaries of just a handful of those tax payer funded CEO's could wipe out the begging problem completely. Perhaps Jacinda could halve her salary too?
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Old December 13th, 2019, 09:26 AM   #1540
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Halving the salaries of just a handful of those tax payer funded CEO's could wipe out the begging problem completely. Perhaps Jacinda could halve her salary too?
The NZ PM regardless of who it is is well over paid, they are paid more than almost all the European PM's, I think only Switzerland's President is better paid.
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