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Old November 15th, 2004, 12:22 AM   #61
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while Sydney guys are talking about a new square on a prime site the Melb guys are talking about a planned 200m apartment tower for Bunnings site !!!!!
lol, yes remember its just talk.
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Old November 15th, 2004, 12:25 AM   #62
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while Sydney guys are talking about a new square on a prime site the Melb guys are talking about a planned 200m apartment tower for Bunnings site !!!!!
lol, yes remember its just talk.
something to ponder>
great squares make great cities not 200m resi towers.
i think this site is more appropriate for a public square not a scraper.
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Old November 15th, 2004, 02:55 AM   #63
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As far as all the reports coming out, this is going to happen. Not overnight, but eventually. Just those further aquisitions to happen.

With Woolies moving out to its new HQ, that's a major plus.
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Old November 15th, 2004, 07:21 AM   #64
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Yes, but wouldn't it be nice if Woolies were moving to a nice tall CBD scraper rather than some suburban business park
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Old November 15th, 2004, 08:09 AM   #65
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Yes, just imagine; Woolies Plaza [IMG]http://www.**************/invboard/html/emoticons/laugh.gif[/IMG]

It will still have a rep office with a boardroom downtown somewhere.
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Old November 15th, 2004, 10:06 AM   #66
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lol, yes remember its just talk.
something to ponder>
great squares make great cities not 200m resi towers.
i think this site is more appropriate for a public square not a scraper.
Yeah but the difference is this will hardly be a Tianamen Square, hell it's so small and boring it will hardly be a "great square" more like an embarassment IMO.

Knock it down and build a tower in sympathy with the location I say.
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Old November 15th, 2004, 12:22 PM   #67
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tower could be raised well above an empty podium ?
that would be "square"
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Old November 15th, 2004, 12:40 PM   #68
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OMG, this square is so un-exciting, especially since it probably won't be completed for another 9 years or so. These are desperate times in Sydney I'm afraid!! Come on 163 Castlereagh St!!! Get constructing and perk me up!!!
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Old November 15th, 2004, 12:48 PM   #69
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It will still have a rep office with a boardroom downtown somewhere.
Of course, could not have Roger Dodger and his band of merry men trudging off half way to Windsor to have a board meeting.

This is the second move of corporate office in 10 years for Woolworths. They first moved out to Yennora, but within 5 years, Town Hall was full of Woolworths again...
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Old November 17th, 2004, 12:54 AM   #70
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I understand that Fabian but generally natives are not symmetrical, nor follow a shape that harmonises well within a formal arrangement. Gums take over with there strange shape and sbstract form. I don't think we need them in the city - they don't fit well with the structured built environment.

Personally I hate most natives, there are many native palms that would suit a square and sympathise more with our climate. I am not even sure that any vegetation is the way to go... I'd much prefer some artistic interpretation with paving, scuplture and something large to break the space up.

A curved glass skyscraper much like Toronto's City Hall curving up facing the town hall would be more exciting IMO.
What about Norfolk pines or bunya pines??? I think they're great for a civic square adding prestige.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 03:41 AM   #71
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new City Square project

well the new city square opposite Town hall seems to be happening sooner rather then later. Apparently a devloper is already looking at demolishing most of the block (except Rialto and Energy Aus) and erecting a landmark tower with frontgae to george and pitt with north face towards new City square.
also Woolworths staff have been told it soon will be closing down.
only early days but a DA may come in this year.
My feelings is that it will be a bldg aprox 150m high


height plane
light blue-55m
dark blue-235m
yellow-approx 150m.



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Old February 21st, 2007, 04:06 AM   #72
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Good to hear.

Hope it does come around before 2020.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 04:22 AM   #73
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Will the developer be expected to bear any/all of the costs of creating the actual square (maybe only acase of laying some turf)? What will need to be done to Town Hall Station?
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This is a surprise for me I thought the development of the new square would mean no new buildings.

Such a tower proposed should compensate for the loss of commercial and retail space associated with the demolition of buildings for the square.

Plus I'm hoping Wooloworths maintain some presence in the CBD, even if it's just a supermarket nearby or in another part of town.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 05:24 AM   #75
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The tower isn't planned for the civic square site but for the buildings south of it but north of Rialto/SCC. One the other hand, a generous developer might receive some benefit from a grateful Council.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 05:29 AM   #76
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yes, the square will devloped by council and devloper will obviously pay for the new tower project, whcih just happens to part of the same block.
i reckon the ground level and connection to town hall station will be a priority in the design.
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I actually hate this. I think Woolworths Building and HOtel Coronation should stay, they are great old buildings and Sydney landmarks. I certainly will be oppsoing the square. MU building etc is hideous knock it down by all means, then surely we could have a 235 tower there?
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Old February 21st, 2007, 07:45 AM   #78
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May as well throw these in here.

The render from the SMH 2 years ago:



Hotel Coronation:



Planned Harbour Tunnel subway map with Park St Station:

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Soooooo close to the 235m zone it's not funny !
You reckon 150m Cul, any poss of over that or don't even go there.....
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Old February 21st, 2007, 09:22 AM   #80
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^who knows. but i reckon due to being in close vicinity to town hall. the tower will be scaled down.
cariad- woolies isnt heritage listed so its ist anything signifiant. i think it needs to go to give some air space in front of town hall.
looks brilliant pic posted by muse.
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