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Old May 2nd, 2014, 04:13 PM   #21
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Given the State Government's desire to maximise return from assets, it is conceivable that development similar to these visions could be achieved in both the Central-Eveleigh precinct and the White Bay precinct.
Central to Eveleigh is a no brainer for this type of development. Much of the transport infrastructure needed is already there, or at least planned.

- Three railway stations serviced by the majority of lines on the suburban and interurban newtworks
- New Second Harbour Crossing can provide additional capacity at Central Station and potentially Redfern / Macdonaldtown (depending on alignment)
- Central Station serviced by two lines on future light rail network
- Buses in designated precinct around Central Station as per City Centre Access Strategy

In comparison the Bays Precinct, almost as big in land area, has no rapid transit or suburban train stations, no planned extension of light rail and no planned ferry wharves or bus routes. Major development should take place in the Bays Precinct, but it will be an expensive exercise to deliver the necessary transport infrastructure.
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yes Aspire
The possible changes show how short the SYD skyline is compared to other modern Asian cities.

But we need a good metro transport system.




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Old May 2nd, 2014, 04:30 PM   #23
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Here is my vision of Sydney which is currently a work in progress. All done on MS paint.

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Channel 7 news clip:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watc...ydney-in-2050/
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 05:06 PM   #25
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Central to Eveleigh is a no brainer for this type of development. Much of the transport infrastructure needed is already there, or at least planned.
Incidentally, does anyone know what's happening with the Eveleigh rail yards? I thought there was a plan under the old government to either use it for residential or as an expansion of the University of Sydney.
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 06:33 PM   #26
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Preliminary visions have been drafted for the Central to Eveleigh corridor and these will continue to evolve as they make their way through the planning system.

Screenshots and a flythrough video here:

https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...620951&page=16
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 02:40 AM   #27
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Some thoughts

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2. Question the aesthetic benefits of a suspended green deck on the Harbour Bridge. By the time you put up barbed wire to stop suicides and noise barriers to block traffic and train noise, it wouldn't be a particularly nice location to sit and ponder.

Also, I know this is not technically possible due the strength of the hangers on the bridge.

RTA finished a project about 3 years ago installing stainless steel inserts into hte existing hanger to provide added strength.

Engineering study found that if 2 hanger side by side were to be disconnected the road deck would tear away like a zipper.

Next time you go over the bridge look carefully inside the hangers you can see the SS hangers.
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 04:04 AM   #28
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All good. My fantasy [email protected] diagram coming up on the other thread actually has 2 metro networks intertwined, a Sydney and a Parramatta one. That would be a leap of faith, to turbocharge Parramatta CBD into something competitive with Sydney.


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Old May 3rd, 2014, 04:21 AM   #29
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I had thought of a circular harbour metro but this idea takes FP concept takes it to another level. Like Sky not sue if it's necessary to build on garden island to with heights such as these. parts Woolloomooloo, William and Oxford streets would be better for this IMO. Keeping space between North Sydney and Milsons Point seems like a waste. I'd also fill the gaps between North Sydney and St Leonards.
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 11:44 AM   #30
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We need a Planning Minister as commanding with backbone like Gladys as Transport Minister. Then we'll finally convert visions to reality.
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 12:21 PM   #31
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Yes, please.
Government never has the balls to govern for the best solution, for the greater good but caves to narrow sectional interests, mindless opposition to change and political advantage.
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 12:25 PM   #32
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This is the vision we showed back in feb.
it was a vision for 2088 by PTW Peddle Thorp Walker done in 1989.

Things have changed a lot since 1989 and will change even more in the next 25 years.

Beautiful drawing!

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Old May 3rd, 2014, 12:45 PM   #33
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Unfortunately history has shown that nimbys may die but are replaced by the succeeding generations of like minded twits.
They just pass the NIMBY Gene onto their offspring. Pretty prevalent in North Sydney.
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 01:24 PM   #34
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It's everywhere. In Dubbo there is a big nimby campaign to 'Save Our South' where locals are protesting the rezoning of areas of South Dubbo to allow 'towers' of up to 4 - yes, I too gasped in horror & fell to the floor in abject shock! - in the area. Even though heritage and significant houses are exempt, and there are some lovely houses in the area, much of the housing is best described as 'charmless' so its loss would be of no significance.

As Dubbo is growing and sprawling, it, too, needs to densify, but from the reaction of the locals you'd think mighty skyscrapers wall-to-wall were proposed to be built by Christmas over the entire area.

It was extremely hard to be diplomatic in my response to relatives' huffing outrage and attempt to explain the reality of the planning proposal and its potential impact.



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Old May 3rd, 2014, 04:27 PM   #35
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This is the vision we showed back in feb.
it was a vision for 2088 by PTW Peddle Thorp Walker done in 1989.

Things have changed a lot since 1989 and will change even more in the next 25 years.

Beautiful drawing!

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I love how they remove the freeways and create public space.
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Old May 4th, 2014, 01:09 PM   #36
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I love how they've reduced the height of most of the existing buildings in the city.
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Old May 4th, 2014, 01:37 PM   #37
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and delete a couple for a random canal.
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Old May 4th, 2014, 04:37 PM   #38
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Tank stream... or Tank lake I should say.

The other funny thing is today Pyrmont pretty much looks exactly like the picture depicts, and remember in the 80s it was largely abandoned warehouses.
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Old May 5th, 2014, 03:41 AM   #39
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Yes, please.
Government never has the balls to govern for the best solution, for the greater good but caves to narrow sectional interests, mindless opposition to change and political advantage.
We might see this with Pru Goward, she seems like a tough cookie to me.

But ultimately the make up of the Legislative Council post the 2015 election will determine the extent of reform. As the Greens are useless pandering to the NIMBYs and it seems like Labor is as well despite their attempts at circumventing council planning.
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We might see this with Pru Goward, she seems like a tough cookie to me.

But ultimately the make up of the Legislative Council post the 2015 election will determine the extent of reform. As the Greens are useless pandering to the NIMBYs and it seems like Labor is as well despite their attempts at circumventing council planning.
The problem with the Greens is that they start from the assumption that capitalism is corrupt/evil. Therefore projects proposed by major corporations, must all be suspect and an attempt to hurt and profit off the community rather than to do it good.
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