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Old June 10th, 2019, 07:33 AM   #481
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$400,000 for investigating if Rail centre in Dannevirke is worth while, if evaluations were successful a further 4 million would be invested.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-sta...virke-rail-hub
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Old June 11th, 2019, 07:38 AM   #482
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...which means that there should be minimal infrastructure cost to KiwiRail itself, but they should be self-funding in terms of equipment replacement and maintenance.

This will put the burden of maintaining the infrastructure on the taxpayer, the same way that we pay for our roads, and allow KiwiRail to concentrate on their operations and upgrading their fleet to modern standards.
Its a really important point - Kiwirail having to own and maintain the infrastructure, thereby creating an entirely uneven playing field when roading is held in the public's hands.
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Old June 12th, 2019, 01:46 PM   #483
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My view is that what the government is wanting to do by doing a "trial" service to Hamilton I suspect may work OK, but it won't pay its way, and it will constantly be under threat of being canned.

Projections from the team at Greater Auckland have the AKL-HAM service only requiring an operating subsidy in Phase I ($2m each year for 5yrs):

https://www.greaterauckland.org.nz/2...al-rapid-rail/

Notwithstanding that, what do we mean by "pay its way"? There is general consensus that road users do not fully pay their way and require subsidies to pay for roads etc - see the head of Kiwirail and his comments on trucking. That's before factoring in environmental costs currently excluded. So why should regional rail like this and the Capital Connection be any different?
To clarify, I don't mean that an AKL-HAM service needs to "pay it's way" in a complete 100% commercial sense that it can operate as a profitable business, but "pay it's way" in the context of most other public transport services in NZ operate under which is 50% self-supporting, and 50% subsidised through rates/tax subsidies because of the greater public good aspect.
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Old June 15th, 2019, 06:14 PM   #484
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Its a really important point - Kiwirail having to own and maintain the infrastructure, thereby creating an entirely uneven playing field when roading is held in the public's hands.
The public also own KiwiRail.
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Old June 17th, 2019, 01:19 AM   #485
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The public also own KiwiRail.
Good point, and as such, we should consider rail to be an asset, rather than a financial burden, and the government should focus on utilising the infrastructure to the best advantage to facilitate the NZ economy in moving towards a greener and sustainable outcome.
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Old November 26th, 2019, 06:47 AM   #486
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Palmerston North poised as centre of rail and road links

KiwiRail's planned regional freight centre could attract $2 to $4 billion of investment into Palmerston North, chief executive Greg Miller said after the unveiling of master plans for the facility.

Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones was in Manawatū on Tuesday for the launch of KiwiRail's proposals.

Plans for the centre for road and rail freight distribution have been developed following a $40 million investment from the Provincial Growth Fund.

Jones welcomed it as a major development for freight distribution across the lower North Island, fulfilling the Labour-led coalition Government's promises to rejuvenate rail.

"It will allow for greater use of rail... efficiently link rail and road freight together, and create a focal point that will help draw more distribution businesses to the Manawatū."

Miller said the Government's backing was a catalyst for a "bold" venture, which was likely to attract investment from customers keen to locate their facilities at the new site.

"We have infrastructure investors at our door who want to locate or co-locate. It does not need to be us paying for it all."

He said the investment had potential to release an enormous amount of value.

Miller said Palmerston North was an ideal location given it was already the largest freight destination outside Auckland, was home to many distribution centres, had plenty of available flat land, and reliable weather.

The presence of Massey University and an educated workforce was also important.

But where the likely 3-kilometre stretch of railway sidings, warehouses, log yards, container terminal and freight-forwarding facilities will be created has not been decided.

KiwiRail was considering several potential sites and would consult the public early next year before moving into the formal process of designating its preferred piece of land.

Palmerston North mayor Grant Smith said the hi-tech centre would integrate road, rail and air freight in the central North Island, and the progress on the master plan was "fantastic".

The development would free up land along Tremaine Ave used for rail freight so it could be used for other purposes, possibly including much-needed housing.
The master plan for KiwiRail's rail centre in Palmerston North would include warehousing and freight-forwarding facilities.

Along with development of a regional freight ring road around the outskirts of Palmerston North, it would help move large trucks off some of the city's urban and residential streets.

Smith said KiwiRail's plans recognised and built on Palmerston North's prime location as a distribution centre and to a large extent revived its history as an important rail centre.

"It has an element of back to the future, to a time when our prosperity rode the rails.

"Our region is well placed, with three major ports to the east, west and south, the main rail trunk line and New Zealand's main state highway leading through it."

Smith said it would improve efficiency in moving freight and support Palmerston North's eco-city aspirations, as each tonne of rail freight produced 66 per cent fewer carbon emissions compared with road.

It also supported the Accelerate25 goal of Accessing Central New Zealand, providing better links for exporters from the region to domestic and international markets.
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Old November 26th, 2019, 07:12 AM   #487
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Good point, and as such, we should consider rail to be an asset, rather than a financial burden, and the government should focus on utilising the infrastructure to the best advantage to facilitate the NZ economy in moving towards a greener and sustainable outcome.
Agree, as an asset you can increase it's value and use that for some of your surplus
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Old November 29th, 2019, 07:37 PM   #488
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Palmerston North poised as centre of rail and road links

KiwiRail's planned regional freight centre could attract $2 to $4 billion of investment into Palmerston North, chief executive Greg Miller said after the unveiling of master plans for the facility.
This is a great idea
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Old November 30th, 2019, 12:36 AM   #489
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This is a great idea
But the 2 to 4 billion in investment is BS.
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Old November 30th, 2019, 01:53 AM   #490
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But the 2 to 4 billion in investment is BS.
Not necessarily... It depends on exactly what you're including in that 2-4bn.
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Old November 30th, 2019, 01:59 AM   #491
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But the 2 to 4 billion in investment is BS.
Well of course you would say that!

First it is a bad idea because it is a Coalition project not National's.

Second it is rail, and National hates rail.
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Old December 22nd, 2019, 03:17 AM   #492
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Does anyone know what the new locomotives promised for the South Island will look like? Also will any new lines be built from scratch?
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Old December 22nd, 2019, 11:42 PM   #493
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Does anyone know what the new locomotives promised for the South Island will look like? Also will any new lines be built from scratch?
Given there has been no major change in KR Management, I would say more DLs....

There is no need to build new lines, there are plenty of ones that are currently unused or mothballed that can be rehabilitated or expanded,

The only like new line to be built in the near future would be Avondale-Southdown, to remove any extra NAL traffic from having to go through New Market
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Old December 23rd, 2019, 02:31 AM   #494
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And a Marsden point branch line.
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Old January 8th, 2020, 10:16 AM   #495
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A ship designer has been chosen for the new Interislander rail ferries.

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Danish ship design Down Under: OSK-ShipTech to design two new ferries for KiwiRail, New Zealand
11 September 2019 PRESS RELEASE: OSK-ShipTech appointed naval architect on KiwiRail's new rail-enabled ferries



Danish naval architects OSK-ShipTech A/S have signed a newbuilding contract with state-owned KiwiRail for the design and development of the next generation rail-enabled ferries for the busy Cook Strait route between New Zealand's North and South Islands.

The new ferries will strengthen and enhance the vital transport link between capitol Wellington on the North Island and Picton on the South Island. Currently, operating company Interislander is operating a fleet of three ferries - two RoPax ferries and one train ferry.

"We are extremely happy to have entered into this collaboration with KiwiRail for their two new rail-enabled ferries. This contract underlines the market position of OSK-ShipTech globally and our wide expertise in passenger ferry design," says Anders Ørgård, Chief Commercial Officer of OSK-ShipTech.

He continues: "As part of the project, new terminals tailored to the vessels will also be developed in order to optimise the infrastructure and fully benefit of the new designs. We are of course very excited to be part of this holistic project and the continued development for KiwiRail in the region."

The new train ferries are targeted for delivery in 2024.
http://osk-shiptech.com/news/Danish-...il-New-Zealand
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Old January 9th, 2020, 04:51 AM   #496
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KiwiRail did well over the Xmas NY period with the massive upgrade of the Wellington Rail Network. Props to them.
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Old January 13th, 2020, 06:43 PM   #497
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Was it just the wires/poles upgrades, or did the additional approach track get put in and activated?

Anything else done, like beginnings of Trentham?
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Old January 14th, 2020, 10:07 AM   #498
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Was it just the wires/poles upgrades, or did the additional approach track get put in and activated?

Anything else done, like beginnings of Trentham?
Trentham got the beginnings of its pedestrian underpass:



Also (and this is entirely from what I could observe while using the bus replacements): new traction poles and overhead wiring went in on the section through Manor Park and Silverstream (looks like at least as far as Heretaunga, though can confirm nothing north of Trentham -- presumably this will only be done when the second track is laid), the turnouts were replaced at Taita, sleeper replacement around Waterloo and Epuni, and foundations for new traction poles were drilled and lined between Wellington and Ngauranga.

I don't travel regularly to central Upper Hutt (home in Silverstream, work in the Wellington CBD), but went there by rail last weekend. Progress on the second track seems to be only enabling works thus far (including the aforementioned underpass at Trentham), but there's a massive pile of foundation material and ballast outside Trentham just waiting to be used...

No idea what happened elsewhere on the Hutt Line, or on the other lines.
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Old January 15th, 2020, 09:35 AM   #499
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Lots of traction pole foundations, new switchpoints, tracks and sleepers in and around Wellington Station as well. And they have been doing some bridge works along the Wairarapa Line.

I think the last leg of major traction pole works on the Hutt Line that is left aside from pulling down the original poles is along the Harbour/Hutt Expressway.
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Old January 15th, 2020, 07:39 PM   #500
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Did they finalize/activate the new approach track into Wellington Station?
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