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Old November 28th, 2008, 02:27 PM   #21
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I agree with seanoff. It is Defence land and they continue to spend a lot of money there. The relocation plans would put it a long way from Darwin and it would easily cost 10 billion to move it. Half of the money would be spent on lawyers to sort out the aboriginal land claims that happen whenever a new project is mooted. That process alone would take 30 years.
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Old December 1st, 2008, 04:46 AM   #23
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they appear to be the concept sketches for the last redevelopment
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Old December 1st, 2008, 06:01 AM   #24
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There from the Woodhead.com.au website, I assumed it was for this redevelopment. My apologies.
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 02:28 PM   #25
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I think the images are not current although they have had retail input recently.
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Old January 10th, 2009, 12:08 PM   #26
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Don't know if this true or not, but a mate of mine was telling me theres been talk of building a bridge between Darwin and Mandorah.

Which will allow Darwin to expand on the other side of the harbour.

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Old January 10th, 2009, 02:59 PM   #27
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Surely not, as cool as that would be.
1: The land claim on Mandorah and the Cox Peninsula effectively blocked any future expansion out there I thought.
2: Cost of a bridge would be far better spent building better transport between Palmerston, Northern suburbs and the city.
3: Isn't it nearly 5 klms across the harbour?

Surely to build a bridge high enough to keep shipping channels to the gas plants clear, Cyclone and storm surge proof to a town of currently about 500 surely would be kin to the Alaskan bridge to nowhere?
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Old January 10th, 2009, 05:57 PM   #28
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Well Crawf it looks like your friend was right:

http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/200...5_news_pf.html

Mandorah bridge 'not too far away'

MATT CUNNINGHAM

October 24th, 2008


A PLAN to build a bridge from Darwin to Mandorah could be brought forward because of the global economic crisis.

NT Local Government Association president Kerry Moir said Darwin City Council should apply to the Federal Government's building infrastructure fund to finance the project.

The Government has hinted it could bring forward the $20 billion fund - which had been earmarked for the 2009-10 financial year - because of the global economic crisis.

Ms Moir said the bridge to Mandorah could be built for about $250 million and would be an ideal project for the building fund.

"We need to be ready with some big plans," she said.

"As far as I'm concerned, nothing's off the table."

The Darwin City Council alderman said a bridge to Mandorah would make commuting much easier for people who lived on the Cox Peninsula and would encourage more people to live there.

"Mandorah is beautiful," she said.

"It's a really lovely place."

"Of course, people who live there now aren't particularly keen on rafts of people coming over but they do realise (the bridge) would have benefits for them."

Wagait Shire Council president Peter Clee said a bridge was a great idea, but it should be built from the Channel Island power station to the western arm of the Cox Peninsula.

"It wouldn't be a major expense and the benefit would be that the driving time would significantly decrease," he said.

Mr Clee said Cox Peninsula residents were not against development of the area.

"They know that development is inevitable," he said.

"What we need to do, as the Wagait Shire Council, is make sure that what development we are going to have is in keeping with the type of lifestyle that we have become accustomed to."

Mr Clee said a water shortage on the peninsula would also have to be addressed before any major development could be undertaken.
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Old January 10th, 2009, 06:14 PM   #29
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Well if there is ever a bridge from Darwin to Mandorah then sprawl will go to the otherside of the bay... there is already Wagait Beach, a small area of beachside properties on box sides of Cox Peninsular Road to Mandorah.

There's talk of a bridge of $250 million to build, which would eventually create development opportunities there. According to Google maps it looks like Mandorah is about 6-7kms from Darwin City, where as the long round trip is 125kms by road. But I doubt the feds will fund a bridge across the bay unless the north can commit new developments either mass sprawl *which i doubt_ or another major centre, town like area...

see Darwin Photography Thread my last post for the news article and a previous google map for distance estimates/view....
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Old January 11th, 2009, 02:07 AM   #30
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^ If that so. Would be longest bridge in Australia!
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Old January 11th, 2009, 09:19 AM   #31
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That's outrageous!!
$250m on a bridge to nowhere, when the bus shelters in Darwin are still not even undercover.
How about speeding up the undergrounding of the power lines first? Surely that's a more sensible way to burn taxpayer funds.
I thought the people living at Mandorah actually bought at Mandorah so they could get away from everyone....
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Old January 11th, 2009, 10:19 AM   #32
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It won't be about the present but the future with the potential for half of darwins population being over there one day if the bridge is built. I'd say the bridge would be cheaper than moving the airport.
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Old January 13th, 2009, 12:05 AM   #33
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Like we say in Australia, "How dy y'all".
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Old January 13th, 2009, 12:59 AM   #34
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that last post of mine was supposed to go into the Skyline Photography thread.... crawf must have thought it was part of that Mandorah bridge project post when he moved the other posts across from that other thread to here.....
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Old February 7th, 2009, 01:05 PM   #35
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Statement from NT Airports Pty. Ltd., lessees of Darwin International Airport terminal can be found at: http://www.ntapl.com.au/Portals/0/MR...d%206.2.09.pdf


Airport expansion in doubt

NT News - Nick Calacouras

February 7th, 2009

THE future of budget airline Jetstar's Darwin international hub is in doubt with fears the airport expansion may not go ahead.

Darwin Airport this week received planning approval from the Federal Government for its $60 million expansion.

The cost of this expansion was intended to be off-set by increased airport fees for the airlines.

But Airport chief executive Ian Kew said the financial crisis had put a strain on the airlines, who were no longer willing to pick up the tab.

Darwin Airport made an application for half the cost from the Federal Government's Infrastructure Australia fund - and was this week shortlisted with 94 projects.

"We are hopeful that we will be successful," Mr Kew said. "Then we won't have to increase our charges to the same extent."

But Mr Kew said if the application is rejected, the planned Jetstar International Hub would have to be put on hold.

"They need more space for their aircraft. Without the expansion, they won't be able to create the hub".

Jetstar announced the hub during the Territory election in August.

The agreement required Jetstar to base three aircraft at Darwin International Airport by June and a further four by June 2012.

The NT Government would provide $5 million to help set up the hub and $3 million to promote the new routes and destinations. With the hub now in jeopardy, Chief Minister Paul Henderson ruled out further assistance and said he was "not in the business of funding private enterprise".

"I'm still confident that the Jetstar hub is going ahead," he said. "But we are in a very different world than we were last year. Who knows where this is going to end."
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Old February 8th, 2009, 07:19 AM   #36
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Darwin Airport made an application for half the cost from the Federal Government's Infrastructure Australia fund - and was this week shortlisted with 94 projects.


I didn't realise a shortlist was released??! do we know the other 93?
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Old April 15th, 2009, 09:05 AM   #37
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Whats with the caption? This is miniture compared to Germany or UK.


ROAD TRIP: An artist's impression of the Tiger Brennan overpass project that is to be built at Palmerston

Dry season start to $38 million Tiger Brennan flyover

NO, IT'S not an autobahn in Germany or Spaghetti Junction in Britain.

This is the $38 million traffic flyover that will connect the Stuart Highway and Tiger Brennan Drive on the outskirts of Darwin.

It will be made up of three 20m-wide bridges, 6.5m high and stretching for 75m.

There will be a pedestrian walkway. The work is part of the $110 million Tiger Brennan Drive extension - the NT Government is putting in $36 million and the Federal Government $74 million.

The $89 million stage two tender, which includes construction of the new overpass, is being delivered through an Early Contractor Involvement model.

A contract, which included design development and early start works, was awarded late last year to local company Macmahons Contractors.

Under the contract, Macmahons is working with the Planning Department to develop the design and value engineering.

Planning Minister Delia Lawrie said: "This is an exciting delivery model - it brings roads planners and contractors together to share ideas on the best delivery method and methods to save money."

Early works on the project are expected to begin this dry season, with preparatory and service relocation on the 7.5km dual lane highway extension.
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Old April 16th, 2009, 07:16 AM   #38
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Looks good, though its only going to cost $38m? that can't be right.
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It isn't right, perhaps it is only part of it....

It could be that while there is a first part:
The work is part of the $110 million Tiger Brennan Drive extension - the NT Government is putting in $36 million and the Federal Government $74 million.


The second part is: The $89 million stage two tender, which includes construction of the new overpass, is being delivered through an Early Contractor Involvement model.

Perhaps $38m of $89m is just NT govt money?
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Old April 19th, 2009, 11:30 AM   #40
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Looks good, though its only going to cost $38m? that can't be right.
It's not a particularly complicated design though - there's only two overpasses in the whole thing. And they've just plonked part of it it in a wetland, so they're obviously not spending anything on environmental issues. It's quite a cheap design, in the scheme of things.
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