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Old July 3rd, 2009, 08:20 AM   #101
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If Nauru House is 190m tall then howcome this building looks a lot taller at the same height? Stunning design though- hope it goes ahead.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 08:52 AM   #102
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On the heights...may actually be more than 190m. Nauru house is listed as 190m/RL 209.40, this new one at RL223.80. We may be looking at about 204m not 190m.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 09:10 AM   #103
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Nope

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Narau House is 190m to the top of the lift overun box that was put up about 7 years ago.

The ground level of the site is RL 28 so the office tower is 195.8m high.

Narau House is 181.4m high to top of parapet.

The hotel tower is 82.25m high.
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Old July 4th, 2009, 01:35 AM   #104
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This new one would make this shot impossible in future...



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Old July 5th, 2009, 05:22 AM   #105
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when i viewed 3D digital height data years ago on melbournes cBD. Nauru house had a central plantroom height of RL212m or 184m above grd.(RL28m).
parapet close RL209m or 182m above grd.roof slab-(RL207m)
In 1976, it was 2nd tallest in Australia ,just behind sydneys 188m AMP completed 1975.
so new crisscross tower will be 196m high? wow.
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Old July 5th, 2009, 06:22 AM   #106
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This is from late last year but AMP are still keen to build another tower located opposite their Sydney HQ at Circular Quay

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Got a surprise in this mornings SMH about AMP's plans for another tower in Loftus St. The council dont like it but AMP want the state government involved.

I recall a similar proposal for a few years ago that got canned.



From The Sydney Morning Herald
Shadowlands: a hole in the heart of the quay
November 10, 2008

THE site of the first government house in Bridge Street could be cast in shadow if a proposal to build a 35-storey office block behind Custom House Quay is backed by the State Government.

AMP Capital Investors has pitched the concept of an office tower with a large hole in the middle of it to allow sunlight through to be built over the laneways running between Loftus and Young streets.

Planning and heritage experts worry that the building, the latest of several attempts by AMP to develop the site, would still cast shadows across First Government House Place and nearby Macquarie Place, block harbour views and create a wind corridor.

Any new tower on the site, which is behind Customs House and opposite the AMP Centre, would be likely to breach council planning laws designed to protect city sunlight.

The proposal comes amid a review of City of Sydney planning laws, the first review since 1994.

Planning experts familiar with the design say it is unworkable in its current state and are worried AMP will lobby the Government for an exemption from local planning laws.

A spokeswoman for AMP Capital said the concept sought to maximise the public space benefits, bring new life to the laneways, increase winter sunlight on the northern end of Macquarie Place and provide a public sky garden with views over Circular Quay.

She said AMP would also restore the heritage Gallipoli Memorial Club and Hinchcliff wool store on the site.

Under Sydney's local environment plan, sunlight to nominated parks and community places in the CBD is protected during certain times. For example, no additional overshadowing is allowed over First Government House Place, in front of the Museum of Sydney, between noon and 2pm and over Macquarie Place between 10am and 2pm.

Tom Uren, a community activist and minister in the Whitlam and Hawke federal governments, said he was "deeply concerned" the tower would "effectively steal the winter sunshine from a substantial area around the Museum of Sydney".

"Already the [existing] tall AMP building affects the winter sunlight," he said.

Others are believed to be worried about how the building will add to the crowding of the skyline above First Government House Place, a spacious plaza in front of the Museum of Sydney that marks the site of Governor Arthur Phillip's house.

The discovery in 1983 of the foundations of Australia's first permanent building led to a public uproar over plans to build a 44-storey building on the site, and they were rejected.

The city built the Museum of Sydney and the plaza instead.
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Old July 6th, 2009, 02:23 AM   #107
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This 204m baby has been approved for Bourke St.
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Old July 6th, 2009, 03:53 AM   #108
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^yeh. that should go in 200m+ thread?
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You're the mod, why don't you move it?
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Old July 6th, 2009, 04:31 AM   #110
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lol
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Old July 6th, 2009, 04:51 AM   #111
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This 204m baby has been approved for Bourke St.


Man if they get the cladding right on that one it will be a beauty.
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Old July 8th, 2009, 02:02 PM   #112
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You're the mod, why don't you move it?
You posted it, why didn't you put it in the right thread in the first place?
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Old July 8th, 2009, 06:10 PM   #113
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i hope the collins st tower will go beyond 200m too!

great density in the east ....
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Old July 9th, 2009, 12:48 AM   #114
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^no, its @ 195.8m. probably stretched to the max with FSR.
the developers would be happy anyhow because it sits just above nearby neighbours
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Old July 9th, 2009, 03:12 AM   #115
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They could always add a 5m pole to it?
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Old July 9th, 2009, 03:19 AM   #116
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but it only seems to important to us (forumers).
i dont think developers/architects give a hoot about if its over 200m or not.
alot of sydney bldgs get designed to 150m because thats a height limit imposed on that site. very rare for a 200m height limit.
the end height maybe last thing architects want to know about. they look at proportion ect.
they may add a spire if it achives a notch, like a worlds tallest or australian tallest/
atm "officially" the talelst office tower in Australia is 120 collins st @ 264m.
do developers/architects of BHP in perth realise if the spire on BHP goes above 264m, it officially becomes australias tallest office tower? or maybe the planned spire has nothing to do with egos and its just a nice touch to the top to give it highest point in perth, which i think any form would be proud of.
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Old July 10th, 2009, 01:53 AM   #117
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With the AMP proposal for Circular Quay, they are likely to bypass Sydney City Council and lodge a D/A with Planning NSW.

AMP are the commercial equivalent of Meriton in Sydney, always wanting to build new towers.
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Old July 20th, 2009, 06:17 AM   #118
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Deatils of the proposed tower at 350 William Street in Melbourne:
  • 45 storeys
  • 177m
  • Designed by Fender Katsalidis.
  • 626 apartments.
  • 20,900 square metres of office space.
  • Construction will commence in late 2010 when existing lease expires.

No rendering yet...
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Old July 20th, 2009, 07:14 AM   #119
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Summary of current Melbourne proposals between 150m and 199m:

Building: levels, height:
  • 72 Collins Street: 42, 196
  • 350 William Street: 45, 177
  • Zen Apartments: 48, 169
  • Age site Tower 1: 52, 166
  • 410 Elizabeth Street: 50, 162
  • Barton Tower: 53, 156
  • Quattro: 38, 155
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Old July 30th, 2009, 01:06 AM   #120
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^how many of these will get built? wont be this cycle.

love the open air top for the 186m Hilton hotel tower
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