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Old March 20th, 2009, 03:51 PM   #81
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I went to a BCC planning brief today and they had some interesting stats on population and workplace growth in the CBD and other CBD's such as Chermside and Upper Mt Gravatt with regards to their Neigborhood Planning.

The data was prepared by NIEIR and included forcasts. Would be nice to get the data they had on all the major centres around Brisbane.

Unfortunatelly I couldn't find anything however I found part of a powerpoint presentation which they did and I copied a slide from it.

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Its interesting to see what Brisbane City Council determines as CBD.

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Old March 20th, 2009, 03:55 PM   #82
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Them some nice stats! Plenty of development in the medium term by the look of it

P.S. Wow...They take the CBD a long way to the northwest. Further than any of us would have predicted. I have to disagree with that...
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Old March 20th, 2009, 04:05 PM   #83
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P.S. Wow...They take the CBD a long way to the northwest. Further than any of us would have predicted. I have to disagree with that...
Thats the traditional borders of the suburb of "City", the same ones the ABS uses. It's not based on consistant land useage.
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Thats the traditional borders of the suburb of "City", the same ones the ABS uses. It's not based on consistant land useage.
Apparently they are looking at changing the name of "City" to "Brisbane" - similar to other cities. Technically Brisbane doesn't exist
The CBD is known as "City" and is its official name. Other places like Sydney, Melbourne, Hobart are the official names of their respective cities.

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Old March 20th, 2009, 04:24 PM   #85
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That's a long way to the NW. Hopefully 43 Herschel St starts a extension of the skyline that way.
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Old March 20th, 2009, 04:27 PM   #86
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yes, it was in the news awhile ago - another one of the Newman's ideas. One of the main news shows went arround the Queen Street Mall asking people what they thought of it, with most not aware of the name and the rest not caring. havn't heard much about it since.
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Old April 15th, 2009, 01:50 PM   #87
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Does anyone know what happened to the render v reality thread??? Are threads in this section deleted as soon as they reach the bottom???
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Old April 18th, 2009, 08:48 AM   #88
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Apparently they are looking at changing the name of "City" to "Brisbane" - similar to other cities. Technically Brisbane doesn't exist
The CBD is known as "City" and is its official name. Other places like Sydney, Melbourne, Hobart are the official names of their respective cities.

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this isnt really directly related...but in sydney i noticed that any freeway/highway signs showing the way to the CBD label it as "city". In Perth any freeway/highway signs say 'Perth city'.

What do they have in Adelaide and Melbourne?
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Old April 18th, 2009, 09:02 AM   #89
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"City" in both. Canberra is the same. Not sure about Brisbane.
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Old April 18th, 2009, 02:56 PM   #90
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Usually Brisbane until you reach BCC boundaries and then City.
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Old August 5th, 2009, 09:09 AM   #91
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I just stumbled across some interesting statistics from Savills Research site...

- As at March 2009
--- Brisbane's CBD prime retail area vacancy rate is 3.9% up from 3.4% in July 2008.
--- Brisbane's CBD contains 312 649 sq m of retail floor space
--- There are 1568 shops with main street exposure and/or contained within shopping centres/arcades
--- Average rental price outside of Queen Street Mall is between $750 per sq m and $1 700 sq m
--- Average rental price in Queen Street Mall precinct is between $2 500 per sq m and $6 500 per sq m
--- Number of residents in CBD has doubled in past 10 years
--- Number of interstate and overseas visitors has tripled in past 10 years
--- Brisbane CBD has 106 945 white collar workers

http://www.savillsresearch.com.au/Do...l%20Mar-09.pdf
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Old August 5th, 2009, 02:23 PM   #92
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One thing that has got me interested lately is how many total car parking spaces there are in each CBD, and how this has quite an effect on CBD traffic congestion and public transport use. Adelaide City Council now actively encourages people to drive into the CBD and park very cheaply in our oversupply of carparks, and surprise surprise, we have had hardly increase in PT use over last few years, and many city streets are gridlocked with cars in peak hour when they all exit the carparks at once. Ridiculous

From what Ive quickly googled

Adelaide CBD (2006) 71,000 carparks (disgraceful)
Perth CBD (2004) - 63,000
Melbourne CBD (2008) 69,000

cant find any info for Sydney and Brisbane
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Adelaide has THAT many? Time to knock a few down and build a few nice talls in their place, me thinks...
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i agree with u Mpol, its time to demolish a few: the one on top of the central markets, the target centerpoint one, the one near King William st on Hindley st, the ones that surround the railway station that sit right on the riverbank (charming ey, our beautiful riverfront...carpark), the one on top of Harris Scarfe, that Topham mall Carpark, that stupid temporary weekend rundle street carpark, and over half the on-street carparking needs to be taken away from busy pedestrian areas like North tce, Hindley st, Rundle St etc

many more parking stations are still being built, many new ones have opened un Adelaide in the last couple of years, that 71,000 carparks in 06 is probably more like 75,000 now, and will probably be 80,000 in a year or so.
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Old August 6th, 2009, 02:29 PM   #95
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Embarrassing for SA.
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Old August 7th, 2009, 06:58 AM   #96
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I found this at the City of Melbourne website in the report: "CBD and DOCKLANDS PARKING PLAN 2008-2013"

I'm not sure what "cost" is refering to.

Melbourne
Area (Ha) 400
Workforce 146,145
Car spaces 63,000
Cost $507
Car spaces per 100 workers 43

Sydney
Area (Ha) 370
Workforce 186,826
Car spaces 33,400
Cost $797
Car spaces per 100 workers 18

Brisbane
Area (Ha) 170
Workforce 64,004
Car spaces 32,700
Cost $609
Car spaces per 100 workers 51

Adelaide
Area (Ha) 250
Workforce 70,409
Car spaces 43,400
Cost $217
Car spaces per 100 workers 62
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this isnt really directly related...but in sydney i noticed that any freeway/highway signs showing the way to the CBD label it as "city".
Only from about 12km away (the boundary is actually based on LGA boundaries and there are some errors/anomalies in the signage but 12km is a reasonably approximate distance)
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I found this at the City of Melbourne website in the report: "CBD and DOCKLANDS PARKING PLAN 2008-2013"

I'm not sure what "cost" is refering to.

Melbourne
Area (Ha) 400
Workforce 146,145
Car spaces 63,000
Cost $507
Car spaces per 100 workers 43

Sydney
Area (Ha) 370
Workforce 186,826
Car spaces 33,400
Cost $797
Car spaces per 100 workers 18

Brisbane
Area (Ha) 170
Workforce 64,004
Car spaces 32,700
Cost $609
Car spaces per 100 workers 51

Adelaide
Area (Ha) 250
Workforce 70,409
Car spaces 43,400
Cost $217
Car spaces per 100 workers 62
where did these figures coming from?
only asking because the workforce figures seem strange
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where did these figures coming from?
only asking because the workforce figures seem strange
I'm thinking that would be about right for Brisbane if it doesn't include Spring Hill or anything north of Turbot.
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Old August 7th, 2009, 03:22 PM   #100
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this isnt really directly related...but in sydney i noticed that any freeway/highway signs showing the way to the CBD label it as "city". In Perth any freeway/highway signs say 'Perth city'.
People in Perf looked at me weird when I said I was about to go to "the City". They all say "I'm off to Perth" there. But of course, if I told someone here in the inner suburbs that I was "off to Melbourne" I'd be looked at funny. Strange.

I thought those workforce figures seemed strange too, with Adelaide having more than Brisbane ? Have always thought Brisbane's core CBD is pretty small, although south of Victoria Square there's not a lot to Adelaide's fairly large one, heck it even has terrace houses.
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