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Old November 17th, 2019, 09:47 AM   #24621
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A much bigger impediment to flow on roundabouts is 80% of drivers failing to indicate off.
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Old November 17th, 2019, 12:43 PM   #24622
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When is the metro net team announcing the build consortium.... meant to be by the end of the year for the yanchep line. McGowan should be pushing for it as he is going to get voted out if he doesn't please the masses....
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Old November 17th, 2019, 03:48 PM   #24623
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When is the metro net team announcing the build consortium.... meant to be by the end of the year for the yanchep line. McGowan should be pushing for it as he is going to get voted out if he doesn't please the masses....
on the 20th of november.
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Old November 17th, 2019, 04:02 PM   #24624
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When is the metro net team announcing the build consortium.... meant to be by the end of the year for the yanchep line. McGowan should be pushing for it as he is going to get voted out if he doesn't please the masses....
they have separated out forward works so they can keep their election commitment with works commencing in 2019 but will only be clearing. nothing will start building wise with the main contract until march 2020 at the earliest

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on the 20th of november.
wow teasing just giving the date no winner
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Old November 18th, 2019, 02:48 AM   #24625
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A much bigger impediment to flow on roundabouts is 80% of drivers failing to indicate off.
I know exactly what you mean!

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Old November 18th, 2019, 05:09 AM   #24626
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that study had dubai 2nd best place to drive in the world

has the moron ever driven in dubai? horrible
Hahaha I'd like to know what their metrics are. Absolute shit of a place to drive in.
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Old November 18th, 2019, 05:30 AM   #24627
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wow teasing just giving the date no winner [/QUOTE]

2019 obviously lol

though mark may delay it to 2021 as part of creating 150k jobs approach.
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Old November 18th, 2019, 05:32 AM   #24628
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Hahaha I'd like to know what their metrics are. Absolute shit of a place to drive in.
exactly right.

i drove there for two weeks earlier in the year, im surprised i didnt lose the plot and ended up in a cell. unbelievably frusturating
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Old November 18th, 2019, 06:51 AM   #24629
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Tonkin Hwy and Hale Rd causing grief. Surprised that they are even considering not having any on/off ramps there


https://www.change.org/p/main-roads-...se_react=false

https://echonewspaper.com.au/residen...-hale-flyover/
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Old November 18th, 2019, 06:56 AM   #24630
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theres plenty of space for an interchange at hale.
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Old November 18th, 2019, 07:03 AM   #24631
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Plenty of space if you bite into Hartfield Park and the veteran car club; very little actually reserved in the MRS.
MRS: https://www.dplh.wa.gov.au/departmen...__langford.pdf
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Old November 18th, 2019, 09:15 AM   #24632
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Tonkin Hwy and Hale Rd causing grief. Surprised that they are even considering not having any on/off ramps there


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https://echonewspaper.com.au/residen...-hale-flyover/

It would be similar to what has happened to Benara Rd and Marshall Rd with relation to the Tonkin/Reid interchange. Putting in an interchange at these roads would interfere with the ramps at Tonkin/Reid.

Putting ramps on the north side of Hale Rd would interfere with the existing (and future, completed Tonkin/Roe interchange). On paper, the volumes wouldn't be enough to justify attempting an interchange at Hale Rd, but if the locals make enough noise, having the ramps to the south (like Tonkin/Guildford) might work, joining onto a CD road south of Tonkin/Roe.
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Old November 18th, 2019, 09:18 AM   #24633
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It would be similar to what has happened to Benara Rd and Marshall Rd with relation to the Tonkin/Reid interchange. Putting in an interchange at these roads would interfere with the ramps at Tonkin/Reid.

Putting ramps on the north side of Hale Rd would interfere with the existing (and future, completed Tonkin/Roe interchange). On paper, the volumes wouldn't be enough to justify attempting an interchange at Hale Rd, but if the locals make enough noise, having the ramps to the south (like Tonkin/Guildford) might work, joining onto a CD road south of Tonkin/Roe.
And Beechboro Rd which also just became a flyover above Reid Hwy.
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Old November 18th, 2019, 11:48 AM   #24634
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exactly right.

i drove there for two weeks earlier in the year, im surprised i didnt lose the plot and ended up in a cell. unbelievably frusturating
No doubt if I owned a car and drove there I would have been jailed and deported
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Old November 19th, 2019, 07:49 AM   #24635
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metroconnex are strongly rumoured to have won metronet.

to be announced tomorrow.

refreshing to see two WA companies been given an opportunity over a stingy conglomerate.
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Old November 20th, 2019, 02:55 AM   #24636
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So i’ve been wondering. Does anyone know what the reduced costs might be if Transperth were to go with driverless trains?

Obviously you would no longer have to pay for drivers. But you may have to pay more for technicians to maintain and look after the trains.

It may lower their operating costs by 1/6 (thats a guess). Which could reduce the required state governments subsidy of public transport (atleast for the train network).

I wonder, would it be worth it for the state government to continue with trains that require drivers, and not go autonomous, purely to keep the WA jobs and keep locals employed?
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Old November 20th, 2019, 03:19 AM   #24637
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Probably would need to grade separate all level crossings before they could roll that out - not sure there is anywhere in the world that runs autonomous trains and have level crossings / potential interaction with other vehicles (and possibly pedestrian crossings as well). So significant costs there. As well as the costs of implementing all the required signaling and Automatic Train Controls.

Another issue would be the Midland Line - that is soon to become the busiest branch on the network with the Airport and Ellenbrook lines but also has interaction with non-Transperth trains (Indian Pacific, Prospector). Also relevant to Armadale line with the Australind. Not sure about any examples of driverless trains running in mixed traffic like this either.

edit - so maybe the Mandurah to Butler line would not be too difficult - totally grade-separated / no other traffic (and probably the most boring for a train driver!), but the heritage lines would be more complicated.
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Old November 20th, 2019, 03:41 AM   #24638
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Announced today six new projects and $917 million in new investment


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https://www.mediastatements.wa.gov.a...ongestion.aspx
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Old November 20th, 2019, 03:51 AM   #24639
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Reasonable article on driverless trains

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-...wrong/11155858
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Old November 20th, 2019, 04:38 AM   #24640
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New infrastructure projects:

Mitchell Freeway (Hodges Drive to Hepburn Avenue) Widening southbound

Cost estimate: $76 million

Jobs created: 530

Funding split: $38 million Federal, $38 million State


Lakelands Station (Mandurah Line)

Cost estimate: $80 million

Jobs created: 200

Funding split: $64 million Federal, $16 million State


Great Northern Highway (Apple Street) Intersection Upgrade

Cost estimate: $14 million

Jobs created: 90

Funding split: $7 million Federal, $7 million State/City of Swan/private sector


Wanneroo Road (Morley Drive) Intersection Upgrade

Cost estimate: $15 million

Jobs created: 90

Funding split: $7.5 million Federal, $7.5 million State


Great Eastern Highway (Old Northam Road) upgrade two intersections at Wooroloo and at Sawyers Valley

Cost estimate: $14.375 million

Jobs created: 70

Funding split: $11.5 million Federal, $2.875 million State


Reid Highway (Erindale Road) project development for grade separation

Cost estimate: $2.5 million (seed funding)

Jobs created: TBA

Funding split: $2 million Federal, $0.5 million State


Project funding brought forward:

$283.6 million for the Bunbury Outer Ring Road

Funding to flow immediately from this financial year over the next four financial years to enable the commencement of works in early 2021 after the majority of funding previously being allocated beyond 2022-23
Australian Government contribution to the project is $681.6 million ($283.6 million brought forward)
Western Australian Government contribution to the project is $170.4 million

$82.8 million for the Albany Ring Road

Funding to flow over the next four financial years to enable the commencement of works in late 2020 after the majority of funding previously being allocated beyond 2021-22
Australian Government contribution to the project is $140 million ($82.8 million brought forward)
Western Australian Government contribution to the project is $35 million

$36.2 million for the Alice Springs to Halls Creek Corridor Upgrade
Funding to flow immediately and over the next six financial years to enable the commencement of works in 2020 after the majority of funding previously being allocated beyond 2022-23
Australian Government contribution to the project is $75 million ($36.2 million brought forward)
Western Australian Government contribution to the project is $18.75 million

$16 million for the Fremantle Traffic Bridge
Funding to flow over the next five financial years to enable the commencement of works in 2021 after previously being allocated beyond 2021-22
Australian Government contribution to the project is $115 million ($16 million brought forward)
Western Australian Government contribution to the project is $115 million

$156.7 million for the Karratha to Tom Price Corridor
Funding to flow immediately and over the next six financial years as construction on Stage 3 is already underway after the majority of funding previously being allocated beyond 2022-23
Australian Government contribution to the project is $248 million ($156.7 million brought forward)
Western Australian Government contribution to the project is $62 million

$40.8 million for the Newman to Katherine Corridor Upgrade
Funding to flow immediately and over the next four financial years to enable the commencement of works by 2020 after the majority of funding previously being allocated beyond 2022-23
Australian Government contribution to the project is $70 million ($40.8 million brought forward)
Western Australian Government contribution to the project is $17.5 million

$40.8 million for Port Augusta to Perth Corridor
Funding to flow immediately and over the next three financial years to enable the commencement of works in 2020 after the majority of funding previously being allocated beyond 2022-23
Australian Government contribution to the project is $50 million ($40.8 million brought forward)
Western Australian Government contribution to the project is $12.5 million

$159.9 million for Tonkin Highway Gap
Funding to flow immediately to enable the commencement of works in mid-2020 after the majority of funding previously being allocated beyond 2021-22
Australian Government contribution to the project is $232 million ($159.9 million brought forward)
Western Australian Government contribution to the project is $58 million
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