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Old April 18th, 2013, 10:07 AM   #181
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What about the Südvorstadt (Karl-Liebknecht / August-Bebel-Strasse)?
Isn't it hip anymore because of too much gentrification? I always adored this part of the city (south to the city centre)
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What about the Südvorstadt (Karl-Liebknecht / August-Bebel-Strasse)?
It isn't hip anymore because of too much gentrification? I always adored this part of the city (south to the city centre)
Oh, of course. This district I ​​forgot.

Well of gentrification (which one brings especially lately in conjunction with Berlin), Leipzig is still far away! There is a lot of affordable housing. This is due to the fact that today people live in the city less than before the Second World War. As a result, many homes still stand empty, but gradually fill up. (Comparison before the Second World War more than 700,000 inhabitants, today over 540,000 inhabitants)
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Old April 20th, 2013, 10:14 AM   #185
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I am visiting Leipzig every year for business purposes.
When I came there for the first time in the early nineties I was completely shocked by the overall decay.
Since the second visit I was looking forward to coming back because it was already visible how well the old beauty would come back.
Today the city beats most other German metropoles in terms of cityscape and city improvement.
It's one of the few places I can imagine to move there.
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Old April 21st, 2013, 03:39 PM   #189
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Well of gentrification (which one brings especially lately in conjunction with Berlin), Leipzig is still far away! There is a lot of affordable housing. This is due to the fact that today people live in the city less than before the Second World War. As a result, many homes still stand empty, but gradually fill up. (Comparison before the Second World War more than 700,000 inhabitants, today over 540,000 inhabitants)
Well, I'm not sure whether Leipzig is still far away from this phenomenon called gentrification. Alone in the last 2 years the city grew about 20'000 inhabitants and that's a quite extraordinary figure. Recently the city's mayor pointed out that Leipzig could reach the mark of 600'000 inhabitants by 2020. I don't have a doubt that the city's current territory (twice of that of the pre-war status) could accomodate rather comfortable so much people but this would mean that the city´s responsables should encourage also social housing to some extent. You have to consider that the conditions of dwelling changed a lot compared to the 1930's.
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When I came there for the first time in the early nineties I was completely shocked by the overall decay.
Since the second visit I was looking forward to coming back because it was already visible how well the old beauty would come back.
Today the city beats most other German metropoles in terms of cityscape and city improvement.
It's one of the few places I can imagine to move there.

I came to Leipzig for the first time on a sunny day in february 1995 and I was immediately amazed by the architectural heritage. Even if this heritage was in large parts in a miserable condition you could still see the former grace, elegance and urbanity of this city.

I appreciated the open-minded athmosphere and the nightlife, too and so I decided to study in "L.E.". I'm still attached to this city even if I left it over a decade ago.
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Berlin, Leipzig and Dresden are one fine trio!
All you ossis and germans should be very proud indeed!
I love these (and so many more) amazing german cities!
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Old April 22nd, 2013, 04:59 PM   #197
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Well, I'm not sure whether Leipzig is still far away from this phenomenon called gentrification. Alone in the last 2 years the city grew about 20'000 inhabitants and that's a quite extraordinary figure. Recently the city's mayor pointed out that Leipzig could reach the mark of 600'000 inhabitants by 2020. I don't have a doubt that the city's current territory (twice of that of the pre-war status) could accomodate rather comfortable so much people but this would mean that the city´s responsables should encourage also social housing to some extent. You have to consider that the conditions of dwelling changed a lot compared to the 1930's.
I think you have to be careful here. It's hard to call in my eyes Leipzig and gentrification on one level.

If ruinous building to be renovated (10,000 there are not more, but about 2500 in Leipzig), it comes naturally to the displacement of previous users (if it ever was). To this end, an alternative pub or include a student apartment that heated with coal. After the renovation, the apartments in most parts of the city can be rented from 4.50 to 5.50 euros per square meter. The rents are affordable for the average family in Leipzig. A ruin is made ​​habitable, and then move in for the majority of Leipzig.

One indicator is the high number of children in the south of Leipzig.
Here lives the Leipzig middle-class family, the WG, but also the doctor. The neighborhood is mixed - has different layers and housing equipment. In this process, although it is an improvement, but as gentrification that is certainly not to call.

For a displacement of the common man by a small upper class - very well-paid - often childless - yuppies takes place on a larger scale in either the Südvorstadt still in Connewitz. Here one should be realistic. The renovation wave 20 and 15 years ago and the consequent population change (in the house) - not the entire district - was not gentrification.

Changes have harmed no single district of Leipzig. Without changes there would not be today Leipzig and it looked like here in 1945.

And finally Leipzig is in no case to be comparable to what is currently happening in the other German cities. In Berlin experienced protest marches by thousands of people and police officers when it comes to the eviction of one (!) House. Rental housing are viewed by 300 interested parties.

No. No. Leipzig = change through restoration of ruins + isolated luxury renovation of ruins (!) (Former residents: nobody or students or alternative)

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I love these (and so many more) amazing german cities!
Seriously? Ossis and Germans?
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Öh, yes? I also know the difference between apples and pears
The phrase "Ossis and germans" implys to me that "Ossis" are no germans or that we are a kind of ethnic group and that is ridiculous.
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