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Old November 5th, 2019, 11:34 AM   #941
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Thank you Nathan for these detailed updates - it's like a virtual tour. Much appreciated.

There is certainly more buidlings, awnings and structures than what I expected.

I suspect there will be some degree of evolution for these buidlings and the overall look and feel of the Wharves in the years to come.
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Old November 5th, 2019, 10:03 PM   #942
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I think you might find those giant pot plants on top of the air raid shelter were quickly removed this week after someone questioned how that fit in with the plan for the heritage preservation of the shelters.
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Old November 6th, 2019, 12:55 AM   #943
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Interesting... I'll be down there again on Saturday, so I'll have a look.
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Old November 6th, 2019, 09:47 AM   #944
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I think you might find those giant pot plants on top of the air raid shelter were quickly removed this week after someone questioned how that fit in with the plan for the heritage preservation of the shelters.
And according to cbdbug questions raised by BCC about the use of oleander which is apparently declared hazardous to children.
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Old November 6th, 2019, 01:30 PM   #945
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I really want to like this development. No doubt the activation of the space has been a great outcome for Brisbane. But it's just a little disjointed, cluttered and in parts bordering on distasteful (this is subjective of course). From a design perspective the precinct is trying to be too many things and I just don't think they nailed it, unfortunately.
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Old November 6th, 2019, 03:23 PM   #946
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They definitely didn't nail it in my opinion. Totally agree that they've tried to fit too much into the area. Hence, that is why I hope there will be enough big trees to hide/camouflage half the buildings so that you come on one building and then another will poke out from behind a tree or row of shrubs. Soften the blow so to speak.

That will be the only saving grace in my opinion.
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Old November 6th, 2019, 10:44 PM   #947
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And according to cbdbug questions raised by BCC about the use of oleander which is apparently declared hazardous to children.
They planted oleander??? Who's the bright spark who thought that would be a good idea? Oleander is a highly toxic plant, and a large enough ingestion will kill.

https://www.childrens.health.qld.gov...rium-oleander/
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Old November 7th, 2019, 02:45 PM   #948
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Haha. Too busy taking pics to show all your friends on here to notice. Scroll back through your pics and there are two pics with them in.

I, of course, noticed them immediately.
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Old November 7th, 2019, 02:49 PM   #949
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Dunno how they are gonna soften the blow of walking past the back of Howard's Hall. That would be one of the most uninspiring parts of the whole complex.
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Old November 12th, 2019, 08:14 AM   #950
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They planted oleander??? Who's the bright spark who thought that would be a good idea? Oleander is a highly toxic plant, and a large enough ingestion will kill.

https://www.childrens.health.qld.gov...rium-oleander/
I don't find it too hard to believe. In my professional career, I've had an argument with a landscape architect who wanted to plant toxic plants in a park - their arguments included "but the flowers are so beautiful", "if everyone knows it's dangerous, people will leave it alone", "we can't be held responsible for what people do in a public place."

Apparently HSW didn't have someone making that sense check.
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Old November 19th, 2019, 04:52 AM   #951
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We have a new infrastructure fail from the Howard Smith Wharves, with the completion of construction associated with Stanley Restaurant showing that the existing pedestrian path now dead ends, forcing pedestrians to detour onto the cycle path right at the point of the blind corner.

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November 17, 2019 — 10.29pm

Howard Smith Wharves management has promised to make quick changes to a clumsy pedestrian walkway that leads into a wall and encourages pedestrians to step in front of cyclists on a blind corner.

The development's new facilities manager, Danny Muzzolini, started less than a fortnight ago and noticed the problem immediately.

"We've already had some meetings about it and there will be changes," Mr Muzzolini said.

Cars, delivery vans, cyclists and ride-sharing vehicles crowd into one narrow section behind the restaurants, and there is no clear path for pedestrians.

They have to step into the direct path of cyclists on a blind corner to continue walking through the busy area between the Fantauzzo Hotel and the bars and restaurants along the river's edge.
On the bright side, HSW's new Facilities Manager Danny Muzzolini, who only started a fortnight ago, noticed this issue straight away and will work to have it fixed. Maybe he will also address some of the other issues present in that area of the wharves.

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Mr Muzzolini said he was aware of the problem and the issue would be addressed at a management meeting on Monday.

"I only started a week and a half ago, and it was one of the first things I saw when I walked in here," he said.

"I said 'that is very odd', and I have already broached it with the chief financial officer.

"It was high up on the list of things to be done. Now it's being raised publicly with me, we'll make it top of the list on Monday."
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Old November 19th, 2019, 04:07 PM   #952
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The place is just one big mess. Bitterley disappointed.
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Old November 19th, 2019, 11:00 PM   #953
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Who led the the original masterplanning for the site, Council or the private proponent? If it's the later I'm not surprised, but Council is still at fault for approving it.
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Old November 19th, 2019, 11:31 PM   #954
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Also, council were warned repeatedly, just like the state was/is with Queen's Wharf.
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Old November 20th, 2019, 01:07 AM   #955
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There is essentially too much clutter. Those "pavilions" should not have been built, the new food booths at the feet of the pylons should be removed and some, if not all, of the awnings on the old water police building should also go.
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Old November 26th, 2019, 12:55 PM   #956
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There is essentially too much clutter. Those "pavilions" should not have been built, the new food booths at the feet of the pylons should be removed and some, if not all, of the awnings on the old water police building should also go.
It appears that some of the structures you are referring to were built illegally. This place is quickly becoming a problem child.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nat...22-p53db8.html
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Old November 26th, 2019, 01:47 PM   #957
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I've said it before. From something I was looking forward to to something I virtually hate. That's my opinion of this mess.
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Old November 27th, 2019, 01:01 AM   #958
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I don't think it is quite that bad - a lot of it is as originally proposed, and for the most part I'm fairly happy with the outcome.

That said, which bright sparks at HSW decided to undertake building works without council approval?
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Old November 27th, 2019, 02:08 AM   #959
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The place is just one big mess. Bitterley disappointed.
Couldn't disagree more. It brings an incredible vibe and energy to a previously dead section of the city/river. If you want peaceful inner city parkland, go to Roma Street or Newstead Park or Botanic Gardens.

I bloody love it!

PS - I respect your view, just disagree.
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Old November 27th, 2019, 05:02 AM   #960
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This.

The thousands of happy punters that pack the place out every weekend clearly don’t hate it, myself included. Best addition to Brisbane in a very long time.
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