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Old May 17th, 2016, 05:53 PM   #41
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Arguably the safest move for the school. I think the Dome still needs some serious renovations for the quality of the venue, but it makes sense for them to use the existing space from a land-use planning perspective. Especially since they're not in need for anything dramatically bigger. Fingers crossed the new roof will prove architecturally appealing.
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ETFE roof it is:

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Syracuse's skyline will soon lose its most iconic piece. Gone will be the white pillows of the Carrier Dome, replaced by a modern combination of steel, natural light and a clear, space-age plastic called ETFE.

Vice President & Chief Facilities Officer Pete Sala said the Carrier Dome roof will be made from the same material as Minnesota's U.S. Bank Stadium, a billion dollar facility that will open this fall and house the NFL's Vikings this season.

"The biggest change you'll see is not having the white pillows when you walk in the door," Sala said. "You'll see a steel structural framework that's typical of newer stadiums today. … The new roof is much higher than the existing roof. I don't want to give too much away but we're going to work with a product called ETFE. You'll see the product in Minnesota. That's a really good example of what we'll do here. It's clear. You can make it darker. It almost looks like glass. It's going to bring a lot more light into the building."

Sala said the school is currently envisioning a saw tooth design for the roof and noted that the school plans to add glass to the outside of the building as well, allowing a view into the building.
http://www.syracuse.com/orangesports...enovation.html
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Old May 17th, 2016, 06:06 PM   #43
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I'm curious how they'll implement that for the basketball configuration. Assuming they'll have a way to close it off.
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"The new roof is much higher than the existing roof."

Interesting. For an architect this could prove a great and fun opportunity, where you're capable of completely transforming a space. (Extreme Makeover - Stadium Edition!) Apart from the roof at Miami's Dolphin Stadium you get get too many renovations at this scale, anymore. Especially if the budget allows fanciful work in the concourse areas and to the exterior (to which they allude will see more glass), the refurbished product could greatly enhance the venue's appeal on the campus and serve as a better draw unto itself.

Now I'm excited!
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Old May 17th, 2016, 06:10 PM   #45
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I'm curious how they'll implement that for the basketball configuration. Assuming they'll have a way to close it off.
You mean, seal the space during construction? Interesting poser.

One possible option (though likely expensive) is that the main trusses could be built over the existing roof, so that the supporting structure is in place as soon as the old roof comes down.
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With a decision to come by late spring on the Carrier Dome roof, per Syracuse Director of Athletics John Wildhack, The Daily Orange asked several sports-business experts how the university could spruce up the venue. Their insight is based on industry best practices, trends across the college athletics landscape and research of their own. Most experts agreed an air conditioning system would be costly and probably not worth the investment. Experts also said the same in regards to a retractable roof.
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Old May 6th, 2018, 04:17 PM   #47
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Most experts agreed an air conditioning system would be costly and probably not worth the investment.
You could not ask for a more ironic statement in this situation.
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You could not ask for a more ironic statement in this situation.

LOL seriously. Don't see why you'd need to splurge on air-conditioning for the CARRIER Dome
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How long is the Carrier name deal in place?
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How long is the Carrier name deal in place?
The naming rights arrangement has no ending. The school has been exploring nixing the deal/asking for more from Carrier as of a couple of years ago...not sure it will be successful, but in today's NCAA environment, its a big disadvantage to not have that revenue stream.

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Yeah they had a naming rights deal really early compared to everyone else, it's mind blowing they would sign a lifetime contract.
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A new fixed roof, a vertically hung scoreboard, state-of-the-art sound and lighting systems, improved accessibility and added Wi-Fi capabilities are just a handful of features visitors to Syracuse University's stadium will experience beginning in fall 2020. The $118 million investment, authorized by the Board of Trustees, will enable the University to create a new stadium experience for students, faculty, staff, alumni and fans alike. Today's announcement represents the next step in advancing the $255 million West Campus transformation strategy the University first announced on May 16, 2016.

The decision to move forward with this investment follows a comprehensive, multi-year review and assessment process. Over the last two years, members of the Board of Trustees, University leaders and other campus constituents have explored options for the future of an on-campus stadium, particularly as it relates to replacing the aging roof.

Other new features, designed to enhance the experience for all visitors that will be part of phase one include the installation of air conditioning, new accessible restrooms and new concessions space. These features are expected to be completed by fall 2022.

"Replacing the aging roof is really just the tip of the iceberg," says Pete Sala, vice president and chief facilities officer in the Division of Business, Finance and Administrative Services. "The visitor experience will be completely transformed. From the enhanced natural lighting in the facility to the ease at which the scoreboard can be viewed, from the new lighting and sound systems to the added restrooms and concessions, our visitors can expect nothing short of a first-class experience. My team and I are eager to get this project underway and we look forward to providing our visitors an experience unlike anything they've had on our campus before."
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Why not just do a whole etfe roof?
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Arguably the safest move for the school. I think the Dome still needs some serious renovations for the quality of the venue, but it makes sense for them to use the existing space from a land-use planning perspective. Especially since they're not in need for anything dramatically bigger. Fingers crossed the new roof will prove architecturally appealing.

It doesn't look like they hired an architect at all.

I guess it will be an improvement from what it is today from the fan perspective. But it seems like $100+ million could be better spent.
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Why not just do a whole etfe roof?
More material they have to keep clean.

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It doesn't look like they hired an architect at all.
well it is preliminary. I don't like that the rectangle of the "opening" is angled compared to the shape of the venue/ field. Hopefully the exterior will be touched up to include some columns to mirror the framework of the roof.
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More material they have to keep clean.
ETFE is self-cleaning.


Kind of hard to tell for sure in the renderings, but it also looks like it is not a great design for shedding snow.
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ETFE is self-cleaning.
But that may be complicated here since it's not a flat surface laid at an angle. I'm seeing all those valleys and thinking they'll need to clear that of who-knows-what building up there.

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Kind of hard to tell for sure in the renderings, but it also looks like it is not a great design for shedding snow.
Had a similar thought. I know with the current roof the ambient heat needed to keep the roof inflated also aided in melting the snow, so maybe the same will apply here?
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Had a similar thought. I know with the current roof the ambient heat needed to keep the roof inflated also aided in melting the snow, so maybe the same will apply here?

Looks like today Syracuse has workers on the roof spraying 120 degree water and pushes 160 degree air between the roof layers to keep it clear. They also turn up the heat to 90 degrees. I would assume they'd have to do the same with the new roof, judging from appearances.

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s...isnt_easy.html

Just doesn't seem like a good design for the climate.
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