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Old January 7th, 2015, 01:52 AM   #2001
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I find the interior architecture of Crossrail to be quite underwhelming. I've just come back from a trip around Stockholm where the underground stations actually have some character(!) https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=st...2F%3B880%3B559

Each is unique and has been decorated by a different artist... so reading through this crossrail thread is a bit depressing. Why is there no colour underground? Must everything be white and grey? Why are there only a few memorable tube stations in London?
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Old January 7th, 2015, 03:01 AM   #2003
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I find the interior architecture of Crossrail to be quite underwhelming. I've just come back from a trip around Stockholm where the underground stations actually have some character(!) https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=st...2F%3B880%3B559

Each is unique and has been decorated by a different artist... so reading through this crossrail thread is a bit depressing. Why is there no colour underground? Must everything be white and grey? Why are there only a few memorable tube stations in London?
I feel the same. The old Tottenham Court Road was a bit run down but with the unique tile designs was unique to other stations. The most iconic stations (internally) on the underground are Baker Street, Westminster (obviously) & Southgate.
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I feel the same. The old Tottenham Court Road was a bit run down but with the unique tile designs was unique to other stations. The most iconic stations (internally) on the underground are Baker Street, Westminster (obviously) & Southgate.
While the deep tubes are mostly the same, there's still tons of variety and architectural merit within them, especially off the platforms.
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Old January 7th, 2015, 12:26 PM   #2005
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The new Underground stations have to be practical and as clinical as possible. They don't want or expect passengers to linger and admire! The majority will rush through, wanting only to get from A to B without a glance. A bit like hospitals - functional (not for everyone mind) and as basically clinical and awful as can be. Aesthetics and design have no role to play in these public outfits.
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Old January 7th, 2015, 12:39 PM   #2006
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The new Underground stations have to be practical and as clinical as possible. They don't want or expect passengers to linger and admire! The majority will rush through, wanting only to get from A to B without a glance. A bit like hospitals - functional (not for everyone mind) and as basically clinical and awful as can be. Aesthetics and design have no role to play in these public outfits.
From what I understand the Jubilee line extension is high maintenance when it comes to cleaning. I think it almost equals what the rest of the network costs to clean.
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Old January 7th, 2015, 08:29 PM   #2007
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From what I understand the Jubilee line extension is high maintenance when it comes to cleaning. I think it almost equals what the rest of the network costs to clean.
Looks cool though.

What works best is probably the occasional signature amidst a bulk of practical. I think TCR would definitely be amongst the latter.
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Commissioning a few local, young, hungry artists to do a few pieces would be nice for some of the more sparse stations - for example parts of the new ticket hall(s) at Farringdon, or the upgraded H&C station at Paddington could use some colour imo.

Saying the tube lacks character is harsh though. The Piccadilly, Northern and Bakerloo lines have some lovely stations dotted around, especially those built during the inter-war period. Then there are the older ones on bits of the SSL lines - Baker Street, Gloucester Road, etc. Few - any? - networks can showcase that level of historical architecture. The Underground's stations are also far less uniform imo compared to the other 100+ years' old networks. Despite also having been initially built by private firms, the NY subway has amazingly samely stations. Catch a ride between, say, Paddington and Liverpool st and notice how different the stations look (if some are not actually wearing well!)
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Saying the tube lacks character is harsh though. The Piccadilly, Northern and Bakerloo lines have some lovely stations dotted around, especially those built during the inter-war period.
I think this is the problem - there are some lovely stations, but they date from more than half a century ago. Name a memorable recent station upgrade, aside from Canary Wharf? Do we expect to be glazed-eyed nostalgic about the architecture of Crossrail stations in 50 years?

Comparing them to hospitals is even raising the bar a bit! I've worked on NHS projects up north that have had more ambition and design flare(!)
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Hopkins’ Westminster Station with its cavernous Piranesi-like structure is another remarkable example. Also, Tottenham Court Road’s new Centre Point piazza entrance should be quite interesting when finished.
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Old January 8th, 2015, 10:59 AM   #2012
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From the renders of Paddington, Crossrail, I think that'll be cool. Also Whitechapel. The new Abbey Wood is quite interesting too.

I agree the others are a bit plain though. Custom House is so utilitarian, that I've suggested they tart it up with a little bunting. As the station serving the UK's premiere exhibition centre, having a perpetual imperial fair motive would be nice.
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Commissioning a few local, young, hungry artists to do a few pieces would be nice for some of the more sparse stations - for example parts of the new ticket hall(s) at Farringdon, or the upgraded H&C station at Paddington could use some colour imo.

Saying the tube lacks character is harsh though. The Piccadilly, Northern and Bakerloo lines have some lovely stations dotted around, especially those built during the inter-war period. Then there are the older ones on bits of the SSL lines - Baker Street, Gloucester Road, etc. Few - any? - networks can showcase that level of historical architecture. The Underground's stations are also far less uniform imo compared to the other 100+ years' old networks. Despite also having been initially built by private firms, the NY subway has amazingly samely stations. Catch a ride between, say, Paddington and Liverpool st and notice how different the stations look (if some are not actually wearing well!)
New York's subway stations and Paris's metro stations are the worst of all - dreary and unfriendly.
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Old January 8th, 2015, 04:19 PM   #2014
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New York's subway stations and Paris's metro stations are the worst of all - dreary and unfriendly.
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Please don't make generalizations.

There is amazing station architecture on virtually every metro. And there is likewise incredibly bland architecture on virtually every metro. This especially applies to older, larger, and more complex systems.
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Old January 8th, 2015, 09:14 PM   #2015
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Paris has lots of nice stations I think, they're more uniform in character than the tube but then again the tube has had huge periods between major expansion works.

The NY subway is a bit different, the pics above are very much the exception - the first one was actually closed decades ago - and the bulk of stations look cheaply built (they were) and the network has a huge issue with cleaning and maintenance from what I remember. Most stations look like a cross between Moorgate (circle/met platforms) and Euston Square.
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the first picture is an abandoned station for christ sakes.
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Old January 9th, 2015, 02:24 AM   #2017
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Are there many ugly subway stations in NYC? Yes.

Was City Hall closed? Yes.

Does any of this matter? No.

The point is, there are beautiful and ugly stations on every system.

There is currently a program underway to install art at EVERY subway station in NYC.

EDIT: Now we're getting off topic. This should probably take another thread. Does one already exist?
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Transport for London (TfL) has awarded a contract to Costain Skanska joint venture to design and build the Paddington link tunnel

The contract to develop the Paddington link tunnel is valued at around £40 million and comes after an innovative procurement process was carried out by London Underground. This same method was used on the Bank Station Upgrade contract that was signed in 2013.

The procurement process is known as the Innovative Contractor Engagement (ICE) model and evaluates the bids made by contractors with regard to the value their proposal adds to the project.

Costain Skanska Joint Venture will aim to improve the value of the Bakerloo line link by 25 per cent by reducing passenger journey times in comparison to predictions from initial designs.

Simon Wright, Crossrail Programme Director, said: `Crossrail is now 60 per cent complete and we are on time and within budget. The Bakerloo line link, being delivered by London Underground, is an integral part of Crossrail.

“When complete, Crossrail will significantly reduce journey times from Paddington to the West End, the City and Docklands. From Paddington, passengers will be able to reach Tottenham Court Road in four minutes, Liverpool Street in ten minutes and Canary Wharf in 17 minutes.”

Paddington is one of the most congested stations on the London Underground and, in order to reduce the demand extra passengers will place on infrastructure, the new link is absolutely vital.

Roughly 85,000 passengers interchange to and from the Bakerloo line every day, with this number set to rise to more than 115,000 when Crossrail begins covering Paddington in the final weeks of 2018.

The population of the capital is expected to grow from 8.4 million today to roughly 10 million by 2030, representing an extra Tube train full of people every three days. This increasing demand makes it vital for investment in services to be completed.
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NYC Subway is horrendous in terms of design standards, but I agree that Crossrail design seems underwhelming.

I suppose the budget is already so high that there wasn't much left for remarkable architecture.
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The two City stations are disappointing and CW looks like a dungeon, but I quite like the other 'core' stops. Paddington looks like the stand out for me, but I think Whitechapel could surprise (especially considering how it is currently).
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