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Old March 6th, 2015, 02:31 PM   #1
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Old Square | Shopping Centre | Walsall High Street

I thought it was about time we had a thread for this.

Two separate schemes that come together as one:

- Old Square shopping centre: demolition followed by construction of a Primark store and Coop Food store; refurbishment and partial rebuilding of the shopping centre.
- Demolition of shops and a multistorey car park across the road from it, rebuilt as larger shops.

This is well underway now, with the Primark store due to open this year.


Express and Star


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Nikki Nahal via Twitter


And across the road:


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Old March 6th, 2015, 02:47 PM   #2
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This area does need a total revamp, but the town lost so much of it's character over the years, I just hope it's sympathetic to what's left of the old buildings of the town. There's still some nice old buildings up the High Street although they need some tender care & a use for some.

What worries me about this development, that in 30 years the whole process will start again of demolish & rebuild. I would like to see something built & looked after so it still looks good for future generations. I suppose for the population it's one of civic pride or a lack of it.
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That surely can't be how far they've got with Primark? This is been going non for ages!

But nice to see Walsall moving forward
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Primark will be finished next month with keys handed over for shop fitting - should open pretty soon then. http://www.expressandstar.com/news/l...ed-next-month/
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Old March 17th, 2015, 03:08 PM   #5
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Primark will be finished next month with keys handed over for shop fitting - should open pretty soon then. http://www.expressandstar.com/news/l...ed-next-month/
This should really give this side of a town a good kick start. Although I'm still to be convinced about the relocated market on to the Bridge. It seems a little too packed in, stalls too close together for my liking, if the renders are to be believed.

https://www.walsall.gov.uk/News/Stor...plans_approved
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Wasn't sure where to post this, not sure if it's new or old news?

Mimosa restaurant signed up to the vue cinema development

http://www.cordwellproperty.co.uk/#!...on-centre/ccmu
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Not sure if that's the one we'd already heard, the renders are new at least, and they seem to have renamed it from The Littleton Centre to Wisemore Central.
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The Vue the one that's been delayed because of sewer work to one of the units & opposite Tesco. If you look down St Pauls Street, on the Tesco building, there seems a few empty units there that have not been occupied & from this plan they want to build more.
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150 jobs at Primark (that's about the same as Wolverhampton) and 20 jobs at Coop (er... not many!).

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2...centre-stores/
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I get a bit more excited about job creation when the likes of JLR & The London Taxi Company announces things. The jobs above at Primark & Coop won't exactly create tax revenues to pay off the deficit & the more pressing National debt
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Well, at least 30-40 of them will be paying tax, a few of them a considerable amount. But a lot will be part time.
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I get a bit more excited about job creation when the likes of JLR & The London Taxi Company announces things. The jobs above at Primark & Coop won't exactly create tax revenues to pay off the deficit & the more pressing National debt
I understand your point BUT

the high paid jobs are often just people moving around from company to company so someone is promoted rather than a brand new high paid job given to someone unemployed if that makes sense


The low paid jobs are the ones getting many people off benefits


So whilst the tax they pay may be low or non existent compared to the jobs created at JLR, they are getting people off job seekers which is not directly getting the defecit down, but not adding to it!


Also I've mentioned this before, with all retail jobs comes obviously the construction and fit out jobs but also creates mechanical and electrical jobs in maintenance which are high paid skilled jobs
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I understand your point BUT

the high paid jobs are often just people moving around from company to company so someone is promoted rather than a brand new high paid job given to someone unemployed if that makes sense


The low paid jobs are the ones getting many people off benefits


So whilst the tax they pay may be low or non existent compared to the jobs created at JLR, they are getting people off job seekers which is not directly getting the defecit down, but not adding to it!


Also I've mentioned this before, with all retail jobs comes obviously the construction and fit out jobs but also creates mechanical and electrical jobs in maintenance which are high paid skilled jobs
Take your point over the construction & refitting of shops jobs. However many of the min wage jobs get topped up by tax credits & income support. So they are not entirely off benefits. Although it's an excellent way of getting the unemployment levels down & for the Government telling us how well they are doing, but to counter that Tax revenues are also down. Go figure
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Income support is only for those with children. 0 hours contacts mean that tax credits are a nightmare as hours fluxuate under and above 30 a week, its not so easy.
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No 0 hour contracts here. Some 4 hour, but they're guaranteed the 4 hours on a set weekend day.
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Income support is only for those with children. 0 hours contacts mean that tax credits are a nightmare as hours fluxuate under and above 30 a week, its not so easy.
Sorry I meant working tax credits & not income support

https://www.gov.uk/working-tax-credit/overview
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New glass entrance and extension with five large stores, to create 100 jobs.

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2...centre-revamp/
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New glass entrance and extension with five large stores, to create 100 jobs.

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2...centre-revamp/
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The report a bit vague, the Old Square as two main entrances, but I assume it will be the one opening up on to the High Street/Digeth. I suppose Debenhams will be pleased to see the investment & hopefully more footfall will come from it because they are not the busiest of stores IMO
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Went to Walsall today but forgot my camera.

Surprised nobody's taken any photos, Primark is finished!

It looks nowhere near as oppressive as the renders suggest, it feels so small, and just looks like any other high street shop, but in a good way. It fits in.

Applied to transfer there but apparently tons from other stores have gone for it too.
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Realised what the renders are showing. The new entrance will indeed be Old Square side, but will encroach quite far into Old Square, essentially getting rid of the square!


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Old Square Shopping Centre

Coupled with St Matthew's Quarter opposite, the square will be transformed with a variety of much larger units.


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My rough sketch of how this might look:


Right Move / edited

No damage is intended by false representation of this development and this is purely guesswork, apologies to the developer if this is not how this will end up.
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