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Old March 17th, 2015, 06:02 PM   #21
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Josh. Please don't get childish. It's already hard enough having to spell things out for you.
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Old March 17th, 2015, 06:04 PM   #22
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I like it but agree dropping the 4th block and going taller would be better

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Demolition starts April 2015

Takes 10-12 months to complete

Construction hopefully beginning in February- April 2016

Provided it gets through planning !! I'm sure I saw something in the online Birmingham Post saying the planners weren't too happy.
Love the entrance at street level, would have preferred something sleeker. Seems everyone's going for massive floorplates, which to be fair is what occupiers are looking for.Was hoping this might deliver more of a punch after what seems like a disappointment at Post and Mail

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Old March 17th, 2015, 06:10 PM   #23
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After looking at the renders for 10 minutes, this is one MIGHTY big building even if it isn't too sleek.
Certainly another building of "international" scale alongside Snowhill 1,2 and hopefully 3
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As a design it's nice, and it would look great over by Snow Hill - the colouring, detailing and rooftop restaurant are much more impressive than what's proposed for Lumina, Snowhill 3 and Post & Mail.

But does it really have to go here?? It's so much more overbearing and severe than the Natwest Tower. It will be an even greater clash with Colmore Row and Victorian Square than what's there already.
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Old March 17th, 2015, 06:11 PM   #25
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Floor plates aren't actually that big. Averaging 12,500 sqft. Pretty small to be fair. Half the size of 3 Snowhill. The Natwest tower was recently rejected listed status so it'll be going. It can't be stopped.
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Old March 17th, 2015, 06:15 PM   #26
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Josh. Please don't get childish. It's already hard enough having to spell things out for you.
Sorry sir just ignore my enthusiasm if you wish, I'm sorry my intelligence is inferior to your own. I struggle to understand alot of what's going on so if I don't ask I don't find out. Sorry again.
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Old March 17th, 2015, 07:24 PM   #27
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The 4 floor open area at the front looks great but its a big old lump and the colours do not work to reduce its visual mass.

I don't think it needs that as it just looks naff and self conscious. A single colour like 11 Brindleyplace would be classy and confident.
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Old March 17th, 2015, 07:27 PM   #28
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in fairness if the new render was as squashed as the render for the original proposal, then this proposal would look more slender also....
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Old March 17th, 2015, 07:30 PM   #29
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I think it's just that council house render that makes it look poor. Looks like something I could knock up on sketch up. But close up it looks quite impressive, good height, good "crown" on top and nice to finally see movement.
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Old March 17th, 2015, 07:43 PM   #30
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The roof top Restaurant at this location will have by far the best views of any location in the city!

Its bang in the centre of town and 30 meters higher then the Cube (not including the higher ground level)

For me, the one thing that lets down the view from the Cube is the fact you can't see beyond the other city centre buildings.
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Old March 17th, 2015, 08:12 PM   #31
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Provided it gets through planning !!
You can knock down anything you want, even if it is grade II listed. They'd also be paying council business rates in the current empty building also, quicker it comes down the cheaper for the land owners.
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Old March 17th, 2015, 08:44 PM   #32
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I really don't like it, bulky and overbearing, replacing one building with another of limited lifespan.
If this was by snowhill, it would be okay...but just okay.
In such a prominent location......awful.
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Old March 17th, 2015, 08:47 PM   #33
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It looks like the building we were due to get at Snowhill where Holiday Inn now sits
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Old March 17th, 2015, 08:49 PM   #34
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I'm glad Kennedy tower never got demolished to then have nothing get built, the holiday inn looks great, has proved extremely popular and means snowhill 3 and post and mail will go bigger than if that proposal got built in my eyes
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Old March 17th, 2015, 09:25 PM   #35
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Why not in the similar style to the neighbours - light creamy coloured stone but still tall? Why can't we do tall elegant buildings?
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Old March 17th, 2015, 09:35 PM   #36
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Hope the real thing looks better than those renders. Not liking the look of this at all.
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Old March 17th, 2015, 09:43 PM   #37
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Will look taller than 103 metres on Birmingham's skyline as this is probably the highest point in the entire city. 25 metres taller than the current NatWest tower - not bad. Hoping the finished building looks better than the renders - looks good at street level, however.
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Old March 17th, 2015, 10:41 PM   #38
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10-12 months to dismantle - Fred Dibnah would have had this down in a week 😉
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That's brilliant van!
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