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Old April 17th, 2017, 04:31 PM   #161
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Isn't it already 60%?
Or have I been wrong all the time, and the real number is actually 40%? That sucks then
What was Mrs. Housewife thinking

I do hope though that the amending of the constitution will push through. I heard PGMA atempted at it before, but due to the Congress literally consisting of career politicians bought up by lobbyists, oligarchs, and vested interests in NCR and Luzon, she didn't succeed.
Now you understand? Classic case, should be a case study, the PIATCO fiasco. The Cheng family had majority shares in the consortium, with $20 m capital contribution, while Fraport with something like $300 m had only around 30% share. They lost in the arbitration for contravening the anti-dummy law.

A Frenchman I know who has a resort in Negros - he put all the money and his Pinoy "partner" who did not put a cent has 60% share!

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Both Ramos and GMA failed because they tried to revise the constitution in their later years, bringing up suspicions of term extensions. Erap though did try to change it early in his term, but vested interests kicked him out.
Duterte better act soon. Whether he likes it or not, the vested interests are going to destabilize him same way they did with Arroyo. This whole act by the "yellow" group is not about the EJKs, the Spratlys but economics. The noise against Arroyo was not about corruption but her signing ODAs left and right which shut out the vested interests from the infra projects. Enter Penoy and PPP, party time for the vested interests plus sovereign guarantee on their loans. The Spratly issue blew up because of the Panganiban group wanting the Recto (or Reed) bank for themselves. Guess who is in bed with Loida Nicolas Lewis and John Negroponte in the USPhil Society, http://www.usphsociety.org/, other than Panganiban himself.
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Ano ba yung mas madali i-solve?


Yung mga squatters sa Luzon? o yung mga rebelde sa Mindanao?


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Rebels

Hmmmm....so you understand Tagalog, @Magniko?
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Old April 17th, 2017, 07:31 PM   #163
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I can understand some, and the context seemed kinda obvious from just a first look at it, with its English words
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Old April 18th, 2017, 02:24 PM   #165
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seems like it will not be electrified initially
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Old April 18th, 2017, 11:37 PM   #166
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Came across this video on the Mindanao railway and Phase 1 of the project: https://youtu.be/qFuO-hnxUk0

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Old April 19th, 2017, 02:56 AM   #167
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Only 31 Billion Pesos for 105KM ? Wow, ang mura ng railways sa Pinas Yey!!!

Mas mahal pa yung EDSA bullcrap este Bus trap for a measely 22 km.

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Old April 19th, 2017, 03:29 AM   #168
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Only 31 Billion Pesos for 105KM ? Wow, ang mura ng railways sa Pinas Yey!!!

Mas mahal pa yung EDSA bullcrap este Bus trap for a measely 22 km.

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Maybe there are some missed details on what the figure/s include. FWIW, it's not a metro and most of all, not an electrified railway! 31B/105 = P295,238,095 per km!

The nearest published "railway" cost I can see is that railway constructed in Yichang-Wanzhou, China. The published cost was $9,100,000.00 in 2011; 377 kms (278 kms in tunnels and bridges! That puts the cost equivalent of PHP 455,000,000 per km, but yes, you are right. The costing could be wrong there.
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Old April 19th, 2017, 12:38 PM   #169
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Mindanao railway project to start next year
By Roel Pareño (philstar.com) | Updated April 19, 2017 - 4:53pm

ZAMBOANGA CITY, Philippines - The implementation of the 2,000-kilometer Mindanao Railway project, which costs about US$9 billion, will start next year, said Speaker Pantaleon Alvarez on Wednesday.

In a press conference here, Alvarez told the press that the Congress is working for the provision of the funding in the General Appropriation Act to be used for the acquisition of the properties for the project.

Alvarez said the first phase of infrastructure implementation will start next year.

The first phase will run from Davao del Sur to Davao del Norte, the second phase will be from Davao del Norte to Butuan City, the third phase from Butuan to Cagayan de Oro, and the fourth phase from Cagayan de Oro to Iligan and Zamboanga peninsula.

According to Alvarez, the loop from Cagayan de Oro passing Cotabato to Davao will complete the rail system in Mindanao.

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By Roel Pareño (philstar.com) | Updated April 19, 2017 - 4:53pm

ZAMBOANGA CITY, Philippines - The implementation of the 2,000-kilometer Mindanao Railway project, which costs about US$9 billion, will start next year, said Speaker Pantaleon Alvarez on Wednesday.

In a press conference here, Alvarez told the press that the Congress is working for the provision of the funding in the General Appropriation Act to be used for the acquisition of the properties for the project.

Alvarez said the first phase of infrastructure implementation will start next year.

The first phase will run from Davao del Sur to Davao del Norte, the second phase will be from Davao del Norte to Butuan City, the third phase from Butuan to Cagayan de Oro, and the fourth phase from Cagayan de Oro to Iligan and Zamboanga peninsula.

According to Alvarez, the loop from Cagayan de Oro passing Cotabato to Davao will complete the rail system in Mindanao.

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Do they have timelines for each phase? There's a lot of phases here, you know our politicians, they might stretch the phases out in time for election and the next phase.
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Old April 20th, 2017, 01:40 AM   #171
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Mindanao railway project to start next year
By Roel Pareño (philstar.com) | Updated April 19, 2017 - 4:53pm

ZAMBOANGA CITY, Philippines - The implementation of the 2,000-kilometer Mindanao Railway project, which costs about US$9 billion, will start next year, said Speaker Pantaleon Alvarez on Wednesday.

In a press conference here, Alvarez told the press that the Congress is working for the provision of the funding in the General Appropriation Act to be used for the acquisition of the properties for the project.

Alvarez said the first phase of infrastructure implementation will start next year.

The first phase will run from Davao del Sur to Davao del Norte, the second phase will be from Davao del Norte to Butuan City, the third phase from Butuan to Cagayan de Oro, and the fourth phase from Cagayan de Oro to Iligan and Zamboanga peninsula.

According to Alvarez, the loop from Cagayan de Oro passing Cotabato to Davao will complete the rail system in Mindanao.

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Old April 20th, 2017, 03:42 AM   #172
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Do they have timelines for each phase? There's a lot of phases here, you know our politicians, they might stretch the phases out in time for election and the next phase.
Sharp eyes, you got! Projects are not projects if there are no timelines.
One more thing, it seems Caraga (Northern Mindanao) is not included per Alvarez! ? % * &
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DOTr's Mindanao Railway video presentation:

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Old April 21st, 2017, 04:07 PM   #174
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They must upgrade the Mindanao's power supply while constructing the railway. For many years, Mindanao's power problems were horrible especially during summer. Like Zamboanga which suffers from power fluctuation and interruption during evening.
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The project would make better sense if they increase the station stops along the lines within Davao City itself so that local commuter trains can run on the same tracks as well. Panacan, Lanang, Buhangin, Poblacion, Matina etc The station costs would not be that much but the advantages would be great specially for commuters within the city.
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Old April 21st, 2017, 08:48 PM   #176
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They could add that in the future

Alot of train stations where I live was built years after the rails were laid down
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Old April 22nd, 2017, 07:50 PM   #177
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This rail project would greatly help the island of Mindanao economically. It is a good plan indeed!
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It's like a 12 year old made that presentation.
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Old April 23rd, 2017, 04:38 AM   #179
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We've been used to pretty presentations by Abaya and other previous officials and yet, none of them was able to implement it
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Old April 23rd, 2017, 10:05 AM   #180
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We've been used to pretty presentations by Abaya and other previous officials and yet, none of them was able to implement it
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