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Old November 22nd, 2019, 06:30 PM   #401
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Presumably on the Waterloo service that will require a bus replacement service from the nearest suitable station to St D?
Pinhoe being the obvious choice. It is double track so can be used to stable trains. One can pull in and then the other can leave. Give it an hour the one that just pulled in then waits for antoher to arrive etc. etc. It would work if timetabled correctly.
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& (unsurprisingly) disruption and cancellations on the sea wall again. On one (IET I'm guessing) that did go through...a passenger tweeted that it was rather dis-concerting!!
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My both reliable and knowledgable source has said that there will be track renewal work happening at Exeter St David's on platform 4/5 over the Christmas period. I don't know any more details, nor do I know of any timetable modifications.
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What also could be happening at St David's is modifications and extension of the footbridge into the new depot office accommodation alongside the station.
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What also could be happening at St David's is modifications and extension of the footbridge into the new depot office accommodation alongside the station.
That is true. That will also take platfrom 6 out of action therefor giving St Davids 1 bay and two through platforms during the works. I would imagine that the bridge work will be done at a later date.
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What also could be happening at St David's is modifications and extension of the footbridge into the new depot office accommodation alongside the station.
The footbridge is already in place (I was at St Davids yesterday).
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The footbridge is already in place (I was at St Davids yesterday).
Thanks for that. I have not been to St David's for over a month.
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Old November 26th, 2019, 06:56 PM   #408
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I think its just a track renewal project this Christmas. I believe that at some point next year they will start to extend the bay platform.
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Does anyone have an up to date photos of the GWR depot at St Davids?
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I keep meaning to get down St Davids and take a few photos. The problem with St Davids is its really out on a limb. There's really hardly any reason to go down that part of town unless you specifically need to go to the station. I'll try and get a photo if the weather is kind over the weekend.
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I keep meaning to get down St Davids and take a few photos. The problem with St Davids is its really out on a limb. There's really hardly any reason to go down that part of town unless you specifically need to go to the station. I'll try and get a photo if the weather is kind over the weekend.
Thank you. Is the depot on, behind or ahead of schedule?
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/r...718d998e6dd75b
Neither of the pictures featured are on that stretch of coast. One objector said that 'It's no good protecting against climate change if it will ruin the beauty of the landscape.

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Neither of the pictures featured are on that stretch of coast. One objector said that 'It's no good protecting against climate change if it will ruin the beauty of the landscape.
Lets be honest here, it is a total monstrosity. An inland route would of been far better.
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I just hope that the iconic view from the train will not be lost behind this wall. From my understanding it will be lost.
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I just hope that the iconic view from the train will not be lost behind this wall. From my understanding it will be lost.

It's a total diaster and it will kills Dawlish's economy.
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I was surprised how much work they have done on the new depot. They've proper cracked on with it now - the low winter sun doesn't half make it difficult to get a good picture though!

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Heathfield line

Passenger trains have not rolled out of Newton Abbot and towards Heathfield since 1959.

But 60 years on, plans to reopen the disused rail line are gathering steam.

The Heath Rail Link group hope that though one day soon trains will be taking to the tracks.

The group wants to see the line reopened as a way of easing transport pressures in the region as a commuter line, as well as giving the tourist industry a boost.

They had initially hoped that the line could reopen by the end of 2020 – a plan that looks unlikely to happen – but Michael Cooke, chairman of Heath Rail Link, thinks that things could happen in the next three years.

Mr Cooke said that they are still in discussions with Network Rail about their proposals, but they have been given permission already to start doing some work around platform 9 at Newton Abbot station.

He said: “Network Rail are still undecided about what they want to do with the line and if they want to keep it open or lease or sell it to us.”

He said that a meeting is planned to take place soon with the rail companies to see if any of them want to take over the running of the line, but if not, then it will be up to the ORR to decide how to proceed.

Mr Cooke said: “I personally feel that they will eventually lease or pass the line over to us. We would need to fix the line bit that can be done. I think this is what may happen as not many of the train companies want to run the trains on the line. The only possibility of trains running seems to be for the construction materials towards the new housing estates being built.”

The group has previous been invited to walk the old railway line to see from themselves its condition, and Mr Cooke said there is nothing about the line that would not be repairable.

Mr Cooke added that they are also looking to open up a park and ride system on a field in Heathfield that would mean that commuters could park there and then get the train into Newton Abbot and beyond.

Back in 2018, he said that there was a hope to reopen by 2020, but speaking this week, he said he cannot see it happening that soon. However, he added: “If things go well then maybe it can in two or three years’ time. We have got to get the funding but we are on the case with that at the moment.”

Supporting for the reopening of the line has long been given by Teignbridge District Council. As part their ten-year strategy, one of the council’s goals is to work closely with and to contribute to the design of key transport infrastructure in the district – and it includes improved use of the Heathfield railway station.

Cllr Gordon Hook, leader of the council, has long been a supporter of the campaign to reopen the line, and speaking to the Local Democracy Reporting Service, he said it would be wonderful prospect and a fantastic aspiration.

He said: “With climate change and the climate emergency, the need is even greater to get people out of their cars and onto sustainable transport and public transport.

“If we even got only 150-200 cars a day that travel from Newton Abbot to Bovey Tracey or Heathfield off the roads, then it would be a great saving in terms of carbon emissions and congestion.

“With the more and more house building that is taking place in the Greater Bovey area, the greater the potential need for this to happen increases.

“The existing line could easily see reopened as the congestion around Newton Abbot is horrendous at times and this would be advantageous to reduce the impact.

“We have to change and move away from the mind-set the car is king. It is a luxury that we have to address and we should be at war with climate.”

Cllr Hook added: “This would be a real benefit to the area. It is in the Local Plan to explore the reopening and it will be an aspiration to continue it as part of the upcoming Local Plan review. We are committed to all forms of sustainable transport and the rail network is one we want to see more take up of.

“All of the branch lines in Devon have seen their usage rise year-on-year since the turn of the century, and this is despite what the cost of rail transport is compared to our European neighbours, so it is encouraging to see that rail usage is going up and people are happy to use it.”

However, Cllr Hook said that to reopen the line would require a lot of work and a significant investment from somewhere, and that the council were not in a position financially were they could throw ‘loads of money’ towards it.

He said: “We would have to see what the financial viability of reopening the line as a commercial entity would be. It would be a wonderful prospect and a fantastic aspiration and something that we are definitely trying to encourage but there are distinct problems that we would have to fight against.

“I would want to see it, but it would need a bit of support from the industrial estate, and it would be great to be able to see workers use it but also for freight. I would be delighted to support it but it is by no means a straightforward prospect.

“We will offer our support as much as we can, but financial pressures mean we cannot throw loads of money at it.”

The campaign to reopen the line has gathered support with almost 3,000 people signing a petition backing the proposals – and has also drawn support from Newton Abbot MP Anne Marie Morris also supported the plans and said that if a good business case can be made to reopen this line as a tourist attraction, then so much the better.

A Network Rail spokesperson said that they were unable to comment on the latest with the plans to reopen the line due to Purdah, but had previously said: “We have held further discussions with the Newton Abbot to Heathfield Revival Group regarding the feasibility of reopening the line. We welcome any plans to upgrade the railway and will continue to work with the group should they wish us to investigate further.”



Personally I think they are flying a kite with this idea. There are so many reasons why this will never happen.
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Old December 10th, 2019, 07:55 PM   #418
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Heathfield line

Passenger trains have not rolled out of Newton Abbot and towards Heathfield since 1959.

But 60 years on, plans to reopen the disused rail line are gathering steam.

The Heath Rail Link group hope that though one day soon trains will be taking to the tracks.

The group wants to see the line reopened as a way of easing transport pressures in the region as a commuter line, as well as giving the tourist industry a boost.

They had initially hoped that the line could reopen by the end of 2020 – a plan that looks unlikely to happen – but Michael Cooke, chairman of Heath Rail Link, thinks that things could happen in the next three years.

Mr Cooke said that they are still in discussions with Network Rail about their proposals, but they have been given permission already to start doing some work around platform 9 at Newton Abbot station.

He said: “Network Rail are still undecided about what they want to do with the line and if they want to keep it open or lease or sell it to us.”

He said that a meeting is planned to take place soon with the rail companies to see if any of them want to take over the running of the line, but if not, then it will be up to the ORR to decide how to proceed.

Mr Cooke said: “I personally feel that they will eventually lease or pass the line over to us. We would need to fix the line bit that can be done. I think this is what may happen as not many of the train companies want to run the trains on the line. The only possibility of trains running seems to be for the construction materials towards the new housing estates being built.”

The group has previous been invited to walk the old railway line to see from themselves its condition, and Mr Cooke said there is nothing about the line that would not be repairable.

Mr Cooke added that they are also looking to open up a park and ride system on a field in Heathfield that would mean that commuters could park there and then get the train into Newton Abbot and beyond.

Back in 2018, he said that there was a hope to reopen by 2020, but speaking this week, he said he cannot see it happening that soon. However, he added: “If things go well then maybe it can in two or three years’ time. We have got to get the funding but we are on the case with that at the moment.”

Supporting for the reopening of the line has long been given by Teignbridge District Council. As part their ten-year strategy, one of the council’s goals is to work closely with and to contribute to the design of key transport infrastructure in the district – and it includes improved use of the Heathfield railway station.

Cllr Gordon Hook, leader of the council, has long been a supporter of the campaign to reopen the line, and speaking to the Local Democracy Reporting Service, he said it would be wonderful prospect and a fantastic aspiration.

He said: “With climate change and the climate emergency, the need is even greater to get people out of their cars and onto sustainable transport and public transport.

“If we even got only 150-200 cars a day that travel from Newton Abbot to Bovey Tracey or Heathfield off the roads, then it would be a great saving in terms of carbon emissions and congestion.

“With the more and more house building that is taking place in the Greater Bovey area, the greater the potential need for this to happen increases.

“The existing line could easily see reopened as the congestion around Newton Abbot is horrendous at times and this would be advantageous to reduce the impact.

“We have to change and move away from the mind-set the car is king. It is a luxury that we have to address and we should be at war with climate.”

Cllr Hook added: “This would be a real benefit to the area. It is in the Local Plan to explore the reopening and it will be an aspiration to continue it as part of the upcoming Local Plan review. We are committed to all forms of sustainable transport and the rail network is one we want to see more take up of.

“All of the branch lines in Devon have seen their usage rise year-on-year since the turn of the century, and this is despite what the cost of rail transport is compared to our European neighbours, so it is encouraging to see that rail usage is going up and people are happy to use it.”

However, Cllr Hook said that to reopen the line would require a lot of work and a significant investment from somewhere, and that the council were not in a position financially were they could throw ‘loads of money’ towards it.

He said: “We would have to see what the financial viability of reopening the line as a commercial entity would be. It would be a wonderful prospect and a fantastic aspiration and something that we are definitely trying to encourage but there are distinct problems that we would have to fight against.

“I would want to see it, but it would need a bit of support from the industrial estate, and it would be great to be able to see workers use it but also for freight. I would be delighted to support it but it is by no means a straightforward prospect.

“We will offer our support as much as we can, but financial pressures mean we cannot throw loads of money at it.”

The campaign to reopen the line has gathered support with almost 3,000 people signing a petition backing the proposals – and has also drawn support from Newton Abbot MP Anne Marie Morris also supported the plans and said that if a good business case can be made to reopen this line as a tourist attraction, then so much the better.

A Network Rail spokesperson said that they were unable to comment on the latest with the plans to reopen the line due to Purdah, but had previously said: “We have held further discussions with the Newton Abbot to Heathfield Revival Group regarding the feasibility of reopening the line. We welcome any plans to upgrade the railway and will continue to work with the group should they wish us to investigate further.”



Personally I think they are flying a kite with this idea. There are so many reasons why this will never happen.
The bay at Newton Abbot would need a fair bit of work doing to it, and I can't imagine that the track beyond the bridge is much good either. Yes the log train runs on it, but it's speed is heavily limited and such speeds are no good for passenger operation.
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I was surprised how much work they have done on the new depot. They've proper cracked on with it now - the low winter sun doesn't half make it difficult to get a good picture though!

St Davids Exeter by C S, on Flickr

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They have certainly got a move on, you're right there. However, I would still say that they're behind schedule as they have enountered quite a bit of ground contaminaction.
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This is a suggested alternative to the railway on the beach and also (phase 3) the higher sea wall to the E of Dawlish.

The curve is no sharper than that at Dawlish Warren, although it looks sharper on the small scale map. There are problems (land purchase) and the tunnel is about 1/2 mile and 2 miles to Teignmouth. It would be popular I am sure. Another alternative is partly shown to the west of Teignmouth, but the tunnel would be longer.

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