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Old November 18th, 2014, 03:37 PM   #1
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Aston Place | Arena Central | Residential | 26fl | 80m | Comp

Application: Number 2014/08220/PA
Application Type: Reserved Matters Development
Site Address: Plot G Arena Central Land Bound By Holliday Street, Suffolk Street Queensway, Alpha Tower And The Crowne Plaza Birmingham B1 1TW
Proposal: Reserved matters application for plot G of Arena Central for residential led mixed use development consisting of 322 residential apartments, 673 Sqm commercial floorspace (A1, A5, B1, D1 & D2), circa 150 car parking spaces, cycle parking spaces, landscaping & public realm improvements & plant & equipment
Planning Officer: David Wells
Area Team: P & R - City Centre Team
Applicant: One Birmingham Ltd

Application here:http://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/N...DAURI=PLANNING
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Old November 18th, 2014, 03:49 PM   #2
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Well.

It's better.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 03:52 PM   #3
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I think its saving grace could be the materials used, but its far from pretty...

I wonder whos letter was recieved on the 10th Septemeber that prompted a design review meeting? ;o)
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Old November 18th, 2014, 04:09 PM   #4
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As a mid rise building it's mediocre, certainly not the worst I have seen in the city and mariginally more attractive than Orion provided it looks anything like the renders.

However, the fact it is in this central location and compared to what was originally conceived is a cruel joke really. It fits in well with Orion, Copthorne (red and black building?) and the Crwone Plazza. All vey low quality buildings but in slightly less prominent locations.

It does not respect Alpha Tower at all and If we are talking about it being listed, I would argue this new proposal severaly detracts from Alpha Tower and blocks the view of it from some major approaching vantage points. Perhaps for another location but I've seen better in Newtown. It's really awful for this location. If this is the low quality of design then really it should be limited even further in height and perhaps to just three or four stories so as not to impact on Alpha Tower at all.

As said the only possible redeeming feature could be use of materials but even then, too big a monstrosity for this location.

A shame but reflection of low ambition in the city in recent years, in that respect it is perfect.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 04:42 PM   #5
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If this is the low quality of design then really it should be limited even further in height and perhaps to just three or four stories so as not to impact on Alpha Tower at all.

Like this maybe....

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Old November 18th, 2014, 04:48 PM   #6
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I thought it would be much worse than this in truth. As a building it isn't that bad, just hard to get over what may have been with V!
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Old November 18th, 2014, 05:04 PM   #7
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It reminds me of the office blocks on Hagley Road. Middling design but bulking up the city and in a tight space too.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 06:02 PM   #8
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This kind of building really annoys me, but I doubt there's anything we can do to stop them now.

The saving grace is that it'll probably only last about 25 years before falling apart anyway, so let's hope for a quick start on site. The quicker they throw it up the quicker we can see it pulled down.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 06:08 PM   #9
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Like this maybe....

Is that building only one room deep? Imagine the heating costs.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 06:11 PM   #10
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Where abouts is plot G?
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Its shit.
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To think the central office block will probably be the tallest now of the AC development.

Anyway





This view will be good once Paradise Circus and Arena Central are complete










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Old November 18th, 2014, 07:29 PM   #13
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I'm always minded to remember Colmore Plaza which was heavily criticised when first proposed but due largely to the quality of materials used turned out to be a gem. Granted this is a very different building but the location is simlar in terms of importance and profile on the skyline. I'm cautiously optimistic at present.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 07:45 PM   #14
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Colmore Plaza is bog standard.

The concrete cladding will make or break this building.

The rear block looks just like a council tower block.

The Sutton Coldfield retirement flats would have worked better here.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 07:57 PM   #15
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To think the central office block will probably be the tallest now of the AC development.


Crafty visuals making the towers look tall and sleek yet Alpha Tower still looking considerably taller?
Visuals don't seem to have changed much to me, personally utterly disappointed, there could have least have been some pinnacle or angle at the top instead of the square finish, absolutely no consideration been given to the prominent position. oh well, seventies Castle Bromwich comes to Arena Central.
Hope we get something exciting in the middle of the site.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 08:07 PM   #16
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If this is anything like Motel One in Manchester it'll be up in no time.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 09:50 PM   #17
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Oh goody!!
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Birmingham is looking like Benidorm.
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Might look quite good from St Andrews, a mini cluster maybe ??????
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Old November 18th, 2014, 10:15 PM   #20
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Seeing them renders now I don't think it's as bad as I first thought

I think if v hadn't been proposed and this was a new proposal for the site we would have all been wanting it built


The view towards Orion from the paradise circus bridge is going to be great
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