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Old December 23rd, 2009, 02:51 PM   #81
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awful news, these passengers have thier christmas ruined
Maybe....but it looks like a christmas miracle.
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 06:05 PM   #82
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a proper christmas miracle would be able to get to your destination without hick ups and not having 2 sleep on the airport floor with thousands of stranded passengers and screaming kids
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Old December 24th, 2009, 01:03 AM   #83
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a proper christmas miracle would be able to get to your destination without hick ups and not having 2 sleep on the airport floor with thousands of stranded passengers and screaming kids
Avoide Heathrow then. Simples!
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Old December 25th, 2009, 04:47 AM   #84
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Bolivian president in emergency plane landing


LA PAZ, Bolivia — A plane carrying Bolivian President Evo Moarales had to make an emergency landing Wednesday because of a failure in its hydraulic system, but no one was harmed, a spokesman said.

Presidential spokesman Ivan Canelas said Morales was flying from La Paz to the southern city of Sucre, but had to stop in Cochabamba in central Bolivia.

"It was only a small scare. The president was not worried or alarmed because it is not the first time it has happened," Canelas said.

He said the presidential jet has had to make two other emergency landings because of what he called small faults.

The plane is a little more than 30 years old, and Bolivian officials have negotiated the purchase a new jet from the Russian airplane maker Antonov for $30 million as part of a loan from Russia's government.

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Old December 25th, 2009, 09:19 AM   #85
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Antonov is Ukranian, not Russian. So I guess it's some aircraft that's already in use with the Russians that Bolivia's interested in buying and not a new craft.
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Antonov is Ukranian, not Russian. So I guess it's some aircraft that's already in use with the Russians that Bolivia's interested in buying and not a new craft.

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"The Antonov company lacks facilities for full construction of some aircraft, a result of Soviet industrial strategy that split military production between different regions of the USSR. This distribution minimized potential war loss risks. As a result, Antonov airplanes were often constructed by aerospace companies in Kharkov (Ukraine), Novosibirsk (Russia), and Tashkent (Uzbekistan)."

So I guess its one of those models constructed in Russia?
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Old December 26th, 2009, 12:18 AM   #87
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Northwest Plane Passenger With Firecrackers Subdued


By Sean B. Pasternak and Martin Z. Braun

Dec. 25 (Bloomberg) -- A Northwest Airlines passenger was subdued after “causing a disturbance” with firecrackers on a flight from Amsterdam to Detroit, the company said.

The Airbus 330 landed safely in Detroit with 278 passengers, said Susan Elliott, a spokeswoman for Northwest parent Delta Air Lines Inc. in Atlanta.

The incident resulted in “minor injuries,” Elliott said, without elaborating. Northwest flight 253 was scheduled to land at 11:40 a.m. New York time today, according to Bloomberg data. The Federal Bureau of Investigation is reviewing the incident, a probe that includes indentifying the device used by the passenger who created the disturbance, said FBI spokeswoman Sandra Berchtold.

“We’re still in the process of figuring out what it was,” she said. Berchtold said the FBI wasn’t on site at the time of the landing and that she was unaware if the passenger was taken into custody.

The incident occurred near the end of the flight, and the passenger who created the disturbance was among those injured, according to CNN. One person was taken to the University of Michigan Medical Center in Ann Arbor, the network reported, citing a hospital spokeswoman.

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Old December 26th, 2009, 03:07 AM   #88
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the story is still unfolding ...

Al-Qaeda plot to blow up US plane fails
Staff reporters From: news.com.au December 26, 2009 11:52AM
http://www.news.com.au/world/al-qaed...-1225813733415
  • Passenger ignites "device"
  • Other passengers injured
  • Authorities investigating incident
AN AIRLINE passenger aboard a jet airliner on its way from Amsterdam to the US city of Detroit tried to blow up the flight but his device failed, CNN reports.


The incident occurred as Northwest Airlines Flight 253, an Airbus 330 carrying 278 passengers, was making its final descent to the American city of Detroit.

The US Government is considering the incident an attempted terrorist attack, CNN reported.

The passenger "is claiming to have extremist affiliation and that the device was acquired in Yemen along with instructions as to when it should be used," according to a US Government bulletin.

The senior Republican on the Homeland Security Committee, Peter King, identified the man as Abdul Mudallah, 23, of Nigeria, msnbc.com reported.
The man was being questioned, according to the officials who spoke to AP on condition of anonymity.

"He appears to have had some kind of incendiary device he tried to ignite," one of the US officials told AP.

It was initially believed that the passenger had set off firecrackers that caused some minor injuries.

President Barack Obama, who is on vacation with his family in Hawaii, was notified about the incident and held a conference call with his national security team, the White House said. President Obama has ordered increased security for air travel and The Department of Homeland Security said it would increase "screening measures" at airports.

Susan Elliott, a spokeswoman for Delta, Northwest's parent company, said: "The passenger was immediately subdued and Delta is cooperating with authorities in the investigation." Ms Elliott said that some passengers received minor injuries, including the person who sparked the incident.

She said the description of the item the passenger had tried to ignite came from other passengers, and was unable to comment on a report from ABC News that the item was a "powdery substance" rather than a firework.

The flight landed safely at Detroit Metropolitan Airport overnight and authorities were investigating. "The passengers are being questioned as part of the investigation and the plane is being searched for similar reasons," Ms Elliott said.



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Old December 27th, 2009, 10:09 PM   #89
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This is getting weird

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iReport — Breaking News Alert The New York Times Sun, December 27, 2009 -- 2:27 PM ET ----- Incident Reported on Another Amsterdam-to-Detroit Flight The pilots of Northwest Airlines Flight 253 from Amsterdam to Detroit -- the same flight involved in Friday's terrorism attempt -- requested emergency assistance Sunday upon landing in Detroit, Scott Wintner, an airport spokesman said. Police vehicles met the plane at the far end of the airport, and five buses drove up to the plane, in a repeat of the same scene that occurred on Friday. Mr. Wintner said he did not yet know what the emergency was, and said it could be anything from an ill passenger to a mechanical problem. "It's a pretty typical response," he said of the police vehicles. "With an aircraft situation, speed is of the essence." Mr. Wintner said airport officials were on their way to the scene. Read More: http://www.nytimes.com?emc=na
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Lowlanders really need to step up the security at their airports. This is ridiculous
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Old December 28th, 2009, 11:03 AM   #91
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Lol, you need to rethink what you posted.

The first person only had a powdery substance on his legs, a metal detector wouldn't have caught this up. Btw he was only transfering there. The second person wasn't even a threat, it seems that he only had to shit so bad that he locked himself up for an hour or more on the restroom I guess our security and airport is way better than Seattle's
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He would had to have gone through customs at AMS because he was traveling from a nation not included in the Schengen Agreement. At customs you are required to go through security. Obviously in the Netherlands there is a need for more people cause it looks like they let anyone in , judging from this recent episode.
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Lol, if that is what you think, fine. You should know better.
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Old December 29th, 2009, 01:42 PM   #94
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Avoide Heathrow then. Simples!
the alternative Gatwick isnt all that brilliant either
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Old December 29th, 2009, 07:50 PM   #95
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There needs to be a better chemical way to sniff out explosive ingredients. With more effort, the terrorists could even try to split the ingredients among even more culprits and our current machines would have even greater difficulty finding them.
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I don't actually think that there's and viable way to get security around this...
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Old December 30th, 2009, 03:29 AM   #97
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For Security Ideas, Ask Business Travelers
29 December 2009
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WHEN there is trouble, it sometimes makes sense to listen to the experts.

By that I mean hard-core business travelers. I've been hearing from a lot of them since that nasty business on a Detroit-bound flight from Amsterdam on Christmas Day. Most said the same thing: it's a mistake to overreact to one incident by ratcheting up security to the point where normal travel is further discouraged. Get some perspective, they said.

The one who said it best was Douglas J. Engmann, the president of Engmann Options, a financial services firm in San Francisco, who says he flies about 200,000 miles a year. He contends that stricter security screening ordered by the Transportation Security Administration will do little or nothing to shield the air travel system from terrorism and do a lot to discourage business travelers from going on the road.

''I was frustrated to read about what I saw as a knee-jerk reaction,'' he said.

The T.S.A. ordered more thorough screenings of passengers and their belongings, including more physical pat-downs. On international flights to the United States, passengers can expect to be screened at the gate.

The T.S.A. initially reacted by banning passengers on international flights into the United States from getting out of their seats or having any access to personal belongings for an hour before arrival time. But on Monday, the agency eased those restrictions, leaving such measures to the discretion of a flight's captain.

Frequent fliers say they understand that a fast, hard tightening of security may be justifiable while the authorities determine whether there is a wider plot. ''Right away, you lower the boom,'' Mr. Engmann said.

But adding more disruption to the security process would be a mistake, he said. ''It's not that we don't adjust. Business travelers are accustomed to knowing the rules and making do with them,'' he said. ''Yet right now, you have to wonder about the balance between totally inconveniencing the traveling public versus what is the threat.''

Kevin Mitchell, the chairman of the Business Travel Coalition, said that ''security lines lengthened literally overnight'' at airports after the stricter measures were put into place. He said that ''extra screening will be a hassle, especially for time-sensitive business travelers.''

He also said it was unconscionable that the T.S.A. had not had a permanent director for almost a year. President Obama's nominee to the post, Erroll G. Southers, has been blocked from confirmation by Senator Jim DeMint, a South Carolina Republican. Mr. DeMint has asked Mr. Southers, a former F.B.I. agent, to clarify his position on whether T.S.A. workers have a right to be unionized. Mr. Southers is currently the assistant chief for homeland security and intelligence at Los Angeles International Airport and a well-known academic authority on terrorism risk analysis.

On his Web site, aviationplanning.com, the airline consultant Michael Boyd summed up the situation this way: ''A clown who was known to be a suspected terrorist is allowed to board a Delta flight at Amsterdam,'' and is subdued by passengers and crew when he tries to set off an explosive strapped to his leg. How, Mr. Boyd asked, does ordering an ''increase in the pointy-object patrol'' rummaging through carry-on bags for screwdrivers, address such an issue?

Obviously, the debate about effective security and antiterrorism intelligence will continue for some time. So let's step back and look for some advice from experts like Mr. Engmann.

Once the T.S.A. does get a permanent director and a firmer footing, how about asking business travelers to join serious discussions on ''how things are really working, and what can be done?'' he suggested.

''I go through, what, 150 T.S.A. checkpoints a year? People like us, we notice things,'' he said. ''If you think about it, we're also the ones who are most at risk, because we're flying the most. So we're not ones who want to make it easy for a terrorist to get on an airplane. On the other hand, we're the ones who have the most experience at going through the checkpoints and observing.''

Air travel security is a three-legged stool. One leg is the effectiveness of the T.S.A; another is the fortified airplane cockpit doors that make it unlikely that terrorists will ever again commandeer a plane as a guided missile; and the third is vigilant passengers who will fight back, as they did on Friday.

''We're the first responders, basically,'' Mr. Engmann said. ''Passengers stopped and flight attendants stopped this guy from doing more damage.''

''In my view, the message going back to Al Qaeda, or whoever, is: 'Look, you can try this. But passengers are not going to let you get away with it. And you may want to try to make flying like being in prison for us, but we're just not going to allow you to do that to us either.' ''
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Old December 30th, 2009, 04:59 PM   #98
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Schiphol: Bodyscan for all passengers traveling to US.

Within three weeks Schiphol is going to use all the 15 bodyscan for the US-routes.




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Old December 30th, 2009, 05:44 PM   #99
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It's not a bodyscan, it's a security scan. Only the custems have one bodyscan at Schiphol East.
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Is this the type of scanner that has prompted concerns since it basically strips the clothes off and shows a picture of the passenger's whole body?

Thought I heard the Americans are thinking of using new technology that is less intrusive.
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