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Old April 7th, 2014, 11:05 AM   #61
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Yes an excellent building. And the proposals for linking underground to Melb Central also very interesting. WOuld be nice if other neighbouring developments had done so eg QV or Argus.
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Old April 7th, 2014, 11:40 AM   #62
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i wish the was in a location that wasn't so dense (or...about to become dense!)... it would really stand on its own then!
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Old April 7th, 2014, 01:06 PM   #63
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Yes, almost like this one should be in Docklands towering over the 20 storey brigade


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Old April 7th, 2014, 03:16 PM   #65
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Lovely.

I'm really digging the four point cross formation our skyline is starting to take shape with.

The South - Southbank cluster
The West - The Rialto + Age Development + Bourke Place + 568 Collins
The North - Melbourne Central + New Northern cluster
The East - The Collins Talls
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Old April 7th, 2014, 03:22 PM   #66
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Lovely.

I'm really digging the four point cross formation our skyline is starting to take shape with.

The South - Southbank cluster
The West - The Rialto + Age Development + Bourke Place + 568 Collins
The North - Melbourne Central + New Northern cluster
The East - The Collins Talls
I was just thinking EXACTLY the same thing the other day!

If only we had Tower Melbourne to balance it all out...
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Old April 7th, 2014, 05:42 PM   #67
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http://i.imgur.com/sTH3Pg4.jpg

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Old April 8th, 2014, 04:55 AM   #68
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If you wanted to be a bit cheekily cuasal about the 4 points you could say the East is essentially the Parliament Station cluster, the north Melbourne Central, the west Southern Cross and the south Flinders Street.

in the image VVC has posted above the height drops away the further you get from the stations. some of that is historic (eg. legal precinct, parliament precinct, retail heart, chinatown) but still more than just interesting that the highest clusters are linked to transit where as say the Elizabeth-William and Collins-Bourke block is still relatively under-developed and also furthest walk from a station entry.
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Old April 8th, 2014, 09:37 AM   #69
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If you wanted to be a bit cheekily cuasal about the 4 points you could say the East is essentially the Parliament Station cluster, the north Melbourne Central, the west Southern Cross and the south Flinders Street.

in the image VVC has posted above the height drops away the further you get from the stations. some of that is historic (eg. legal precinct, parliament precinct, retail heart, chinatown) but still more than just interesting that the highest clusters are linked to transit where as say the Elizabeth-William and Collins-Bourke block is still relatively under-developed and also furthest walk from a station entry.
Great observation, and certainly backed up by the idea of transit activity hubs. I think if the North-South metro goes ahead The Haymarket/University precinct will boom --- I think it has the potential to be Melbourne's version of Columbus Circle in NYC.
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Old April 8th, 2014, 10:27 AM   #70
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Not much of a skyscraper cluster around FSS unless your referring to southbank.
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^ yes I was.
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Great observation, and certainly backed up by the idea of transit activity hubs. I think if the North-South metro goes ahead The Haymarket/University precinct will boom --- I think it has the potential to be Melbourne's version of Columbus Circle in NYC.
...but they need to do a lot of clever grade separating and "threading" of trams (underground as a hub connected to the Haymarket (that should be the name IMHO)) for that to happen
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Old April 9th, 2014, 04:24 AM   #73
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Back in the late 70's there was a push for grade separation for transport and pedestrians. Major new commercial developments were designed to have underground or over street connections. Then they rethought it all deciding street activity was one of the things that was a plus for Melbourne so other than the bridges between shopping complexes in the heart of the CBD we have not continued this planning. In cities that have extreme climate conditions inside access through city blocks is desirable and maybe as Melbourne's population density increases this may again gain popularity...I loved the city when you could see footpaths bustling, trams rolling by and traffic along the streets. It's now a compromise between a sanitised environment and accepting the street activity of a major city
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Back in the late 70's there was a push for grade separation for transport and pedestrians. Major new commercial developments were designed to have underground or over street connections. Then they rethought it all deciding street activity was one of the things that was a plus for Melbourne so other than the bridges between shopping complexes in the heart of the CBD we have not continued this planning. In cities that have extreme climate conditions inside access through city blocks is desirable and maybe as Melbourne's population density increases this may again gain popularity...I loved the city when you could see footpaths bustling, trams rolling by and traffic along the streets. It's now a compromise between a sanitised environment and accepting the street activity of a major city
keep the pedestrians and local circulating on the surface with the texture of the streets but grade separate the through-traffic sewers of Flemington, Royal, Elizabeth etc...calm the streets and circulation at the surface and make the through trunk streets relatively limited access
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Old August 28th, 2014, 10:02 AM   #75
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Slightly refined design by the looks of it

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Old August 28th, 2014, 10:11 AM   #76
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its good that the COM are behind it (mostly) - looks fantastic still
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Old August 28th, 2014, 10:19 AM   #77
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They want the station entrance retained on the latrobe street frontage, which I think is a good idea. While the basement of the building will have a food court/retail area connecting to the existing one, a lift or stairway directly from the street is far clearer for people.

They should swap the carpark lifts to the north of the building where their current station access is listed (fronting Lt Latrobe) and move the station entrance to just inside the Latrobe street entrance.
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Old August 28th, 2014, 10:19 AM   #78
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OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!! Love this building!

And the height is said to be 286m!

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Old August 28th, 2014, 12:21 PM   #79
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So nice
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Old August 28th, 2014, 01:17 PM   #80
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Hope it doesn't shade the Library forecourt for few minutes on a special day ?
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