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Old November 11th, 2019, 11:26 AM   #1401
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But it is alright for a mod to openly criticise a forum member ? The way in which OrangeKiwi responded to another SSC member with “put up or shut up” is not appropriate at all, anybody with 2 brain cells can see that as unprofessional. I still want to know - who moderates the moderators ? i.e. who can we report moderators to where we know that they will be dealt with fairly and not protected by the ‘moderator club’ ? Surely you will agree that mods do not deserve special treatment or more respect than any other forum member, it is not as if they were elected by the SSC community and/or paid employees - mods are volunteers. Thanks for your time.

On second thought, don't bother, I will take this matter to the Holding Company - thanks again for your time.
There is a number of people who can talk to moderators. First there are supermoderaters that can press issues with moderators, next there are administrators.

I'm not sure what you want here. Orangekiwi has admitted that a) he made a mistake in not deleting the other posts because they were not reported to him directly, b) admitted that his tone was not the best way to adress a member. He acknowledges that his actions could have been better - we are all human.

You are being a little bit dramatic here, the holding company does not let in with the moderation of this forum nor with people who like to pick little fights. Their task is to keep this forum online and keep the servers running. Local moderation has no interest for them. The highest you can go is the administrators and judging by the weighty reply orangekiwi has added, the fact that no-one was punished directly, only some posts deleted and that he has admitted his fault in dealing with the situation, I can almost guarantee you the admins will judge in his favour. I can understand that you want to make a case againt a moderator if he/she bothers you but a least make sure your case isn't empty - and making empty threats usually doesn't fare well.

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I'm being harassed and abused by moderator RyukyuRhymer after I returned from the ban just over 1 month ago. I'm following the rules but having the right and freedom to express my opinion by following those rules.

The same moderator commits repetitive intimidations towards me as preferably liking contrary opinions to mine, preferentially locking my threads even if others are inactive for a similar time and are revived again, heeded a troll request that said Latins are less nerdy and left-headed than Germanics in the (Skybar/Are latin Americans more Latin or Americans?) thread and gave me an infringement with one point that will never expire for turning a general recommendation from Yellow Fever as a personal warning that I had violated in (Skybar/Cape Town vs Rio) thread.

The same mod goes with these attitudes trying to eliminate me from the forum, because I don't agree with his political opinions and also don't participate in any thread he creates.

How do I report this type of abuse?

(I saw that he's a moderator here too, and he has too much power, but people like Jan or another moderator could answer instead)
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Old Yesterday, 06:29 PM   #1403
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PS I'm falling victim to slander now in the (Skybar / Are Latin Americans more Latin or Americans?) Thread and the same mod is clicking likes on my slanderer's posts.
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In time: Correcting left-headed to left-brained*
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Old Yesterday, 07:31 PM   #1405
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I'm being harassed and abused by moderator RyukyuRhymer after I returned from the ban just over 1 month ago. I'm following the rules but having the right and freedom to express my opinion by following those rules.

The same moderator commits repetitive intimidations towards me as preferably liking contrary opinions to mine, preferentially locking my threads even if others are inactive for a similar time and are revived again, heeded a troll request that said Latins are less nerdy and left-headed than Germanics in the (Skybar/Are latin Americans more Latin or Americans?) thread and gave me an infringement with one point that will never expire for turning a general recommendation from Yellow Fever as a personal warning that I had violated in (Skybar/Cape Town vs Rio) thread.

The same mod goes with these attitudes trying to eliminate me from the forum, because I don't agree with his political opinions and also don't participate in any thread he creates.

How do I report this type of abuse?

(I saw that he's a moderator here too, and he has too much power, but people like Jan or another moderator could answer instead)
Sorry but I've been one of the more lenient mods.

Your racism hasn't went unnoticed. The first time you were banned, we had a chat with all the mods and we unanimously agreed you should be punished. I was the only one who pushed for a short 1 month ban, while others wanted a 1 year or permanent ban. In the end the one who gave you the long ban was another mod, not me.

Your posts are one of the most reported by other members in this forum. I am the one that has dismissed most of them. Otherwise your infraction level would be much higher.

Finally, your latest rants about Brazil was reported several times and other mods had called for your ban. I only gave you a one point infraction.

All of this information and reports are viewable internally by Jan and other mods.

Its a shame you don't recognize my leniency towards you, since you prefer to bite the hand that feeds

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I'm supposed to be on holiday and relaxing and enjoying the sunrise in the beautiful Kauai Island right now but I'm going to take a few moments to give my takes on this. Fabricio, I'd already pointed out in my last post in that concerned thread that don't take these supposed to be fun threads too seriously, we should have fun when comparing the cities rather than emphasizing on crimes and some other downsides about certain cities. RR is right that many mods have been calling for your head but he managed to give you only some infractions instead, so he is already being nice to you, so please don't continue to push this issue because one day you might not be able to return to this forum when the mods decide enough is enough.
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How can you be the most lenient if all actions against me come from you practically?

You can't speak for me. Prove it by stopping abusing me. And making false accusations of racism, because I'm not racist, which is a crime in my country, either. I try to be impartial in my analysis but when I have to impartially criticize someone who is not 'white' it automatically seems to be associated with racism.

Most of these complaints are either exaggerations of people who dislike me or people who don't respect minimum principles of freedom of expression and thought. Like I said I'm following the forum rules within these limits.

My relationship with the other moderators is good and this is important to emphasize. Ukyio, jonesy55, Yellow fever, Rumors (my friend), Jan (my friend), Ashok, Svartmetall etc ...

If you are lenient as you say, then completely abandon your role of moderating me and leave it to the older and more experienced forum moderators I mentioned. Otherwise, you will continue to be reported for these abuses and a pity that I can't go beyond besides reporting you because I would try everything possible to respond to you appropriately.

@Yellow Fever It's okay about you, you know that I consider you as a friend, not only of SSC, but a friend to have in real life, always respecting your decisions in the many times we talk privately via PM. But I need help here to forbid him to moderate me due to having personal issues and repetitive bullying involved.
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Old Yesterday, 10:09 PM   #1408
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Yes. Traveling the world, taking pictures of cities and skyscrapers, which is the main theme of the webpage.

I also have an Emporis and Skyscrapercenter account. I like to register buildings.
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RyukyuRhymer is one of the nicest moderators around here.You on the other hand, with your conservative posts,and by debating way too seriosly on so many threads, have been a pain in the a$$ to way too many people. If you expect to win this debate, you may as well expect Brasil to become a white Germanic country at the snap of a finger.

In the gaming forum I moderate, you'd have been banned a long, long time ago.

To be wholly fair, the people who have reported you should have put you in the ignore list instead. Reporting should only be used for spammer/bots etc.
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In your opinion that I respect. But for me, he's been relentless in harassment since he became a moderator of Skybar in 2017. I have it all registered in PDF. Yellow Fever also knows that several times I sent PM with a copy to him and directed to Jan, reporting his abuses. Unfortunately I was punished in March this year for thinking that the crash of Ethipian Airlines could be among other causes the malpractice of the pilots (Since I had not ruled out airport and Boeing failures either).

I'm not conservative. I'm center, because I'm a secularist among other views, but I live well with religious and left socialists as well. That's how I think people should be. Accept that not everyone thinks the same and accept criticism and all opinions. But abusing a person clearly in an inferior position is bullying in this context.

I know there are many here who like me and that's why I'm coming here because of them. Since returning from this ban, I have decided to do what Instagram has started to do: Suspend likes, which no longer appear on my avatar, and I don't like posts anymore (I'll make compliments to forumers in their great posts instead), to try to keep the environment as harmonious as possible for a forum where People have different opinions and don't want to be intimidated with this tool.
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How can you be the most lenient if all actions against me come from you practically?
I don't know why I need to keep repeating this.
The one who banned you wasn't me, it was Fields. But we UNANIMOUSLY supported it


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My relationship with the other moderators is good and this is important to emphasize. Ukyio, jonesy55, Yellow fever, Rumors (my friend), Jan (my friend), Ashok, Svartmetall etc ...
Quite frankly, Jan has stated to us he doesn't know you. It seems you think he is your friend simply because he added you on his SSC friend's list. But he adds EVERYONE. He has a lot of banned people on his list.
Secondly all those people you've listed as 'friends' were part of the unanimous decision to ban you earlier.

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If you are lenient as you say, then completely abandon your role of moderating me and leave it to the older and more experienced forum moderators I mentioned. Otherwise, you will continue to be reported for these abuses and a pity that I can't go beyond besides reporting you because I would try everything possible to respond to you appropriately.
NO, as long as you post in my section you will be subject to my moderation.
Secondly I have posted for many years before you became a member (not that it matters, but since you brought it up). You are free to message Jan, YF, or others about my communication with you, but it won't stop me from moderating you if I find problems.

The message I sent you in your last warning was already quite polite.
As YF warned you.. it would not be wise to keep pushing this issue.
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Ok you prove my point that you are a stalker. No problem. If one day I get banned here everyone will know who did it.

You wanting to act as my protector is worthy of the theater prize for pretending.

Remember I asked another moderator to respond? But you made a point of disrespecting it.

I will no longer prolong this discussion.

I was a Skybar forumer between 2014 and 2017 without your moderation and in a calm, harmonious and tolerant environment, with a wealth of opinions. Today it seems that everyone has to think as you think.

I also don't understand why Jan chose you as Skybar's moderator. We already had ukyio representing Japan.

Why not Teslatron or kamilo, representing other views, in the role of Skybar moderators as well? I think the environment would be less toxic with more plurality of opinions and better with more freedom.
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Ok you prove my point that you are a stalker. No problem. If one day I get banned here everyone will know who did it.

You wanting to act as my protector is worthy of the theater prize for pretending.

Remember I asked another moderator to respond? But you made a point of disrespecting it.

I will no longer prolong this discussion.

I was a Skybar forumer between 2014 and 2017 without your moderation and in a calm, harmonious and tolerant environment, with a wealth of opinions. Today it seems that everyone has to think as you think.

I also don't understand why Jan chose you as Skybar's moderator. We already had ukyio representing Japan.

Why not Teslatron or kamilo, representing other views, in the role of Skybar moderators as well? I think the environment would be less toxic with more plurality of opinions and better with more freedom.
^ Like I said, we have a platform where all the moderators and administrators communicate. All the reports submitted by SSC users can be read to all of us. There is a lot of transparency.

How about this,

The next time some one reports you, or another mod asks for you to be banned. Instead of moderating them and being lenient to you, I actually listen to them? since you have a problem with my leniency
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