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Old January 17th, 2020, 05:58 AM   #1301
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Hoping for 57

I was hoping for the 57 floors since this would help improve the skyline and put the area on the map so to speak. Also, I actually think the view would be better at 58 than 40. The view at 57-58 would go over the other buildings, while with a twin the upper floor would get a view of, the other tower. So the view gets better further up you go.

I hope the developers continue with their plans for a 58 floor building. Given how fast the area is growing and the immense demand, I can't see why not. The building would be a landmark, while two shorter buildings would not be cheaper, and it would be ho-hum (an engineer told me this, because it would require two foundations, it does not work out to be cheaper ). Also, many news articles had said the building was sold out anyway, and everything was a go.

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Old January 17th, 2020, 03:32 PM   #1302
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Looks like the website is dead!
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Old January 17th, 2020, 04:14 PM   #1303
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Umm...well, its obvious where Riverwalk Place got its inspiration from...this 649 ft tower was proposed in Miami in 2014. I didn't even notice.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=211431



Possibility an idea Riverwalk Place 2? One is 315 ft (28 story) and the other one is 362 ft (32 story).

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Old January 17th, 2020, 08:56 PM   #1304
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I'm still confused about what happened with this, was it lack of sales or foundation issues? This lot has been a bust since trump came to town. Looks like the regions building will forever hold the title as tallest in the city
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Old January 17th, 2020, 09:27 PM   #1305
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I heard the site was taken down so they can transition the new look when ready and since they are certain it will change, there was no reason to keep up the site to avoid confusion.

Personally, I am not excited about this and think it would be best if sold to a group that wants to capitalize this location to it's fullest.

For now, having the Cap gone and cleared will make it more enjoyable in the meantime and probably more attractive to other developers not wanting to deal with that demo...
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Old January 17th, 2020, 09:38 PM   #1306
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I agree, this should be maximized to its fullest potential and not half assed. I'd rather see good quality downtown than alot of mediocre buildings. It's just sad that this was marketed as the nicest, largest residential building on the west coast of Florida and now they're more than likely gonna come back with a half assed plan and design they slapped together in a few months that will probably suck compared to the original.
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Old January 17th, 2020, 09:41 PM   #1307
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Except that the Tampa design is much superior to the Miami design.
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Old January 17th, 2020, 11:09 PM   #1308
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Except that the Tampa design is much superior to the Miami design.
Yep. It really sucks because the Tampa design was really good. It would have really transformed Tampa’s skyline and made it look much better.
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Old January 17th, 2020, 11:54 PM   #1309
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I'm still confused about what happened with this, was it lack of sales or foundation issues? This lot has been a bust since trump came to town. Looks like the regions building will forever hold the title as tallest in the city
It was champagne buyers on a beer budget. They didn't want to pay more for the units that were above 35-40 floors especially when the view was not any different.
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Yep. It really sucks because the Tampa design was really good. It would have really transformed Tampa’s skyline and made it look much better.
Didn’t lament the Trump tower not working out. It was a crap design.

But this one leaves a mark.
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I still think Feldman will come up with something really nice for that prime location. Thank God Tampa has so much going on that it doesn't hurt as much..
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I was talking to an engineering friend...We think they should go, with three super slender 1000 foot, 93 floor buildings, horizontally cross braced with each other,. Make the base width of each tower 56 feet by 56 feet, providing a 2700 sqft living area plus 400 sq foot core. It would be a one of the kind building that would place Tampa up with New York City with its skyline and send a clear message Tampa is a major metropolis.

The towers can taper to 51 feet by 51 feet, and 41 by 41, toward the top, giving units with 2200 and 1200 sqft respectively, in addition to core. Each unit would have an entire floor to itself in a tower. This works out to about 280 units, 93 units per tower. One or more of the towers could also remain at 56 by 56 feet
all the way to the top, giving a 2700 sqft units to the top, with the possibility of subdividing floors into multiple units.


I was talking to an engineering friend about this and they said this could be an economical way to do a super tall, super slender skyscraper and put Tampa up in the same league as Chicago and New York City with tall buildings.

This means that each unit would have 360 degrees of windows. Each tower would have an elevator or two, elevators would be glass elevators on the exterior.

The three cross braced 1000 foot super slenders carries many economies and advantages, it gives the best possible views due to an overshoot over all other buildings, and could easily allow a long distance view probably out into the gulf.

Each tower is spaced a bit from each other tower, this spacing works with the cross bracing to increase the stability of the towers, its an efficient way to do a super tall because you end up with a wider straddle between the towers without actually having to increase the overall footprint of the towers themselves, because of the horizontal bracing in the space between the towers. This gives you more stability with less cost.

It could work beautifully, The developers need to look at this design. If your going to spend money to put in a large condo building, might as well put us up with New York City.
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I was talking to an engineering friend...We think they should go, with three super slender 1000 foot, 93 floor buildings, horizontally cross braced with each other,. Make the base width of each tower 56 feet by 56 feet, providing a 2700 sqft living area plus 400 sq foot core. It would be a one of the kind building that would place Tampa up with New York City with its skyline and send a clear message Tampa is a major metropolis.

The towers can taper to 51 feet by 51 feet, and 41 by 41, toward the top, giving units with 2200 and 1200 sqft respectively, in addition to core. Each unit would have an entire floor to itself in a tower. This works out to about 280 units, 93 units per tower. One or more of the towers could also remain at 56 by 56 feet
all the way to the top, giving a 2700 sqft units to the top, with the possibility of subdividing floors into multiple units.


I was talking to an engineering friend about this and they said this could be an economical way to do a super tall, super slender skyscraper and put Tampa up in the same league as Chicago and New York City with tall buildings.

This means that each unit would have 360 degrees of windows. Each tower would have an elevator or two, elevators would be glass elevators on the exterior.

The three cross braced 1000 foot super slenders carries many economies and advantages, it gives the best possible views due to an overshoot over all other buildings, and could easily allow a long distance view probably out into the gulf.

Each tower is spaced a bit from each other tower, this spacing works with the cross bracing to increase the stability of the towers, its an efficient way to do a super tall because you end up with a wider straddle between the towers without actually having to increase the overall footprint of the towers themselves, because of the horizontal bracing in the space between the towers. This gives you more stability with less cost.

It could work beautifully, The developers need to look at this design. If your going to spend money to put in a large condo building, might as well put us up with New York City.


Love it but would this even be financially feasible? What would be the cost per building? Could they do one at a time and build as they sell?
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