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Old November 22nd, 2019, 09:37 PM   #3521
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It also limited the scope of the arena expansion. Seems like a lot of trouble just to save an ugly roof.
NBA and NHL are trending towards smaller arenas (New Key will have a higher basketball capacity than 4 of the last 5 areas built for NBA teams, and 3 of the last 5 built or being built for NHL teams), so "limiting the scope of expansion" is sort of irrelevant. It got to 17.4k seats. That's plenty for teams to succeed.

And again, What's so ugly about it? I think it's kinda cool. I'm hardly a preservationist, but this is a case where I'm glad they kept the old design.
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Old November 25th, 2019, 08:27 PM   #3522
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Attendance, while always important, isn't the main revenue source for owners. The focus on the recently-built sports arenas in North America are suites, club seats, licensing merchandise and corporate sponsorship - $$.

The newest arena designs tend to offer a more "intimate" fan experience, with more steeply raked seating bowls and "no bad seats."
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Old November 29th, 2019, 04:10 AM   #3523
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There are multiple piles of dirt to remove under and around the floating roof.





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Old November 29th, 2019, 06:17 AM   #3524
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Personally I love the look of the arena roof, since it fits well with the architecture of the Center grounds. Since the most iconic view of the city includes that roof, it's better than letting some generic arena design get its say on such a stage.
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Old November 29th, 2019, 07:34 AM   #3525
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Maybe once the entire arena is completed, the roof is cleaned, painted and new signage is installed, I will come around. At this point, I don't care for it or get it. Overall, I am thrilled we are getting a new arena so it's not the end of the world. Go NHL and hopefully NBA in the somewhat near future!
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Old November 29th, 2019, 07:42 AM   #3526
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Really, why is the Key Bank sign still there? They haven’t paid anything to the city for years.
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Old November 29th, 2019, 09:40 PM   #3527
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Really, why is the Key Bank sign still there? They haven’t paid anything to the city for years.
Because, up until the project, it cost more to remove it than leave it. Probably as simple as that.
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Old December 31st, 2019, 12:48 AM   #3528
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Someone linked the Virtual Venue page for the new arena: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showp...&postcount=331

Not sure if this is meant to be visible to the public or not at this point. But cool view inside the new arena.
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Old January 17th, 2020, 10:03 PM   #3529
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Didn't see anything thing on this yet. A few renders I have not seen before. Not sure about that sign at the top.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl...id=hplocalnews
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Old January 22nd, 2020, 03:41 PM   #3530
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Nice set of recent construction photos from NHL to Seattle:

https://nhltoseattle.com/2020/01/21/...tour-01-21-20/
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From todays DJC.

https://www.djc.com/news/co/12129013.html

January 22, 2020

New arena pit nearly done as roof ‘floats' above on temporary bracing

By BRIAN MILLER
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The landmarked roof of the old KeyArena is now “floating,” and the first foundation work has begun.

The DJC and other media made a site visit yesterday, where excavation to a depth of about 75 feet is nearly complete. Representatives from Oak View Group, contractor Mortenson and project manager CAA Ikon all said the $930 million project is still on schedule to open in the fall of 2021. That's the same time an unnamed new NHL team is expected to debut there.

One name we now know is that of Alaska Airlines, which recently bought the naming rights for the new atrium to go on the south side of the project, facing Thomas Street.

That 36,000-square-foot structure will appear relatively late in the construction (i.e. 2021), since it's entirely above grade and connects to the plaza that wraps around the site to First Avenue North. It'll also be the arena's new main entrance — a change from the old configuration.

Alaska Airlines Atrium will also sit on top of the new 190-foot-long loading and access tunnel. James W. Fowler Co. recently began boring in the parking lot south of the landmarked Pottery Northwest (aka the Bressi Garage). It'll be about 75 feet deep where it enters the new arena. The dimensions — about 24 feet wide, 18 feet high — will allow two tour buses or tractor-trailer rigs to pass in opposite directions, to expedite the staging of sports and entertainment events.

Detaching and preserving a 44 million-pound roof has been a unique proposition. Neither Johnsen nor Greg Huber of Mortenson could recall any precedent. “It's something that we've never quite tackled,” said Huber.

The old arena had 400,000 square feet, and the new will have around 750,000. Of that, about 500,000 will be below grade.

Elliott Veazey of CAA Ikon said that the naming rights for new arena aren't being auctioned off in a formal process. If and when the NBA commits to a new franchise in Seattle, that would greatly increase the value of said rights. But there's no guarantee of a new NBA expansion team here before the arena opens and the naming rights are sold.




Extensive scaffolding allows workers to access the 44 million-pound roof, which is now completely supported by temporary bracing.
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Old January 22nd, 2020, 10:12 PM   #3532
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Word from the presentation the group did at Pacific Science Center was that the roof would be supported by its new foundations by May-June. Apparently, they're just pouring their first footings.
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Old January 22nd, 2020, 10:17 PM   #3533
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Some impressive construction engineering going on! I've never seen anything quite so daring. And not one dime of public money involved!
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How much money would they have saved if they didn't have to keep the roof?
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Old January 23rd, 2020, 12:09 AM   #3535
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How much money would they have saved if they didn't have to keep the roof?


Potentially a ton. The media for years (press reporting on projects, cable channels with home improvement shows) has given us the common understanding of things being cheaper when starting from scratch.
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Interesting that Alaska bought naming rights to the atrium. Seems like a shot across the bow to dissuade Delta from buying naming rights to the whole place. I heard a rumor awhile ago that OVG is seeking a 20 year commitment for $20m/year. Seems unlikely they'll get that, especially with T-Mobile likely out of the picture and most of the other big local corporations unlikely to be interested in a naming rights deal. I wouldn't be surprised to see a non-local, National brand scoop it up again.
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Old January 23rd, 2020, 11:27 PM   #3537
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Interesting that Alaska bought naming rights to the atrium. Seems like a shot across the bow to dissuade Delta from buying naming rights to the whole place.
Rumbling was that OVG wanted Alaska to buy the rights for the whole arena, but Alaska felt they'd get a bigger bang for their buck putting their name where everyone walked into the arena.

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I heard a rumor awhile ago that OVG is seeking a 20 year commitment for $20m/year. Seems unlikely they'll get that, especially with T-Mobile likely out of the picture and most of the other big local corporations unlikely to be interested in a naming rights deal. I wouldn't be surprised to see a non-local, National brand scoop it up again.
Did T-Mobile announce they weren't going to throw their hat in? Nothing precluding having 2 arenas sponsored by the same company. Roger's has the rights for both the Vancouver and Edmonton arenas, Mercedes Benz has both the Superdome in New Orleans and Atlanta's new stadium, etc.
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Old January 24th, 2020, 12:02 AM   #3538
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The only problem is, contrary to what the press release/news coverage pushed, NOBODY is ever actually going to text or call their friends and family to tell them they’re waiting for them inside the Alaska Airlines Atrium! They’d say “We’re in the atrium.” Or “See you in the atrium.” Additionally, naming a room at a building is nothing compared to the instant worldwide advertising of your name when naming the building itself. Everything from city maps and signage to souvenirs to sports league schedules and team websites and music concert listings across the world would be part of immediate advertising for the company that gets the naming rights to the building. None of those items will likely ever mention the name of the atrium. Whoever gets the naming rights to the stadium will have the real jackpot.
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Old January 24th, 2020, 03:34 AM   #3539
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Didn't say it was the biggest impact for them. It was that it was the best bang for their advertising buck. There's a big difference.

And advertising around the arena has nothing to do with getting people to say your name. It's all about people having eyes on your brand (think about the advertising you see in airports).

Its a good deal for Alaska because they don't have to pay nearly as much as they would if they were to slap their name on another arena in town (which they already have UW's campus covered for that), bus still get everyone who's walking into the arena to stare at a big sign with their name on it.
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Old January 24th, 2020, 03:37 AM   #3540
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And while we're at the main arena naming rights sponsor, to no one's surprise whatsoever:

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