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Old November 12th, 2014, 01:08 AM   #1
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CBD - West > Aspire Melbourne - 295-309 King Street > 211m / 63L / residential / demolition

Super skyscraper plan

Two neighbouring, historic and low-rise King Street buildings are set to be replaced with one super-skyscraper after being acquired in separate transactions last year. Matthew Guy is reviewing the new owner's application seeking to demolish the Koorie Heritage Trust Cultural Centre at 295-299 King Street, a building that was developed in 1919, and the neighbouring Elizabeth Andrews building, also on the Victorian Heritage Database. Replacing the blocks could be an 83-level, 603-unit skyscraper with 124 car spaces and ground-floor retail. Last April, the applicant paid the Koorie Heritage Trust $8.6 million for its 857-square-metre block. The three-level, 2300-square-metre building accommodated an exhibition space, gallery, library and museum and was offered with a two-year leaseback. Eight months later the applicant paid $4.1 million for 307-309 King Street, adding 436 square metres. Both blocks back onto a council laneway. In a show of how dense developer proposals have become this year, the King Street application follows a developer last week seeking to replace the 430 square metre Bennetts Lane Jazz Club site with a 52-level building.
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Old November 12th, 2014, 03:00 AM   #2
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Another laneway bites the dust .. ?

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Old November 12th, 2014, 05:07 AM   #3
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Wrong site. That laneway is at 580 Lonsdale Street which is currently for sale.
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No reason at all why at least the facades of two historic buildings can't be restored and kept as part of a development here


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Old November 12th, 2014, 06:50 AM   #5
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Wrong site. That laneway is at 580 Lonsdale Street which is currently for sale.
OK my bad I was referring to the Goldfingers site up the road which as you say is up for sale and could be developed into an '80 storey skyscraper' as per The Age article:

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/go...11-11k5jk.html

I'm not sure which 3 neighboring sites are are part of the sale to create the 'megasite' equivalent to A108 the article refers to, but it surely must encompass Gough Alley if it is that big.
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Old November 12th, 2014, 07:11 AM   #6
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This was posted on urbanmelbourne last month too, although it is just a concept to sell the land (the 580 site)
http://www.realcommercial.com.au/pro...urne-501334979
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Old November 12th, 2014, 08:52 AM   #7
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Yep that certainly would mean the end of Gough Alley if such a development went ahead.

Wrong thread I realise but obviously there isn't one for the Goldfinger site on this forum yet.
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Old November 12th, 2014, 09:29 PM   #8
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No reason at all why at least the facades of two historic buildings can't be restored and kept as part of a development here


The Koorie Heritage bldg looks nothing like the original...does the inside? I say remove it, and is a bloody ugly reno at the moment, so, where's the heritage left??
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The Koorie Heritage bldg looks nothing like the original...does the inside? I say remove it, and is a bloody ugly reno at the moment, so, where's the heritage left??
It Looks exactly the same, it just happens to be painted at the moment, a few windows blocked up, and the ground floor altered (which is pretty much every commerical heritage building) hardly irreversible...
Though yes looks like a lot of the original timber ceilings and columns are still inside based on photos.

Here it is around 10 years ago before being painted blue and yellow

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No doubt this will go through, heritage has no part in decision making whatsoever these days...
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Old November 13th, 2014, 09:30 AM   #11
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No doubt this will go through, heritage has no part in decision making whatsoever these days...
Man i wished i owned one of these old buildings such as this, or up on the northern end of Elizabeth St. I would be laughing all the way to the bank now
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Old November 13th, 2014, 09:32 AM   #12
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# The Koorie Heritage bldg looks nothing like the original...does the inside? I say remove it, and is a bloody ugly reno at the moment, so, where's the heritage left??

This was built thousands of years before white fellas got here...can't you see by the dots, and the combi outside in the oldest pic...which must have been a bit later than Cook etc... ?
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That building does not look like that above contemporary photo any more. Besides the fact that the building has been rendered, all the windows have been altered. It is no longer of any heritage significance.
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does anyone else think this will jsut be a land flip-after approval situation...
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Who ever profits along the way is but a flip in time...this site as any in Melbourne will transform over time and it is all but a game...I can't throw in any dollars but wonder those that can will profit...just how the world works...not a conspiracy...just the real world.
then throw in the politically correct environmental climate change and we all will throw billions of dollars to corrupt nations...and say, we did our bit...idiots!
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does anyone else think this will jsut be a land flip-after approval situation...

Yes,appears so.
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Old November 16th, 2014, 06:58 AM   #17
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What kind of leeway do they have with project approvals? How much changes to the project's scope can they get away with before being required to submit in a new approval request?

Don't these approvals tend to have a requirement on matching certain conditions such as apartment numbers per floor area space or something?
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This will be 267m tall according to Mark Baljak @ Urban Melbourne

286.66m AHD to the top of LMR, with 20m ground RL

The full site is 295-309 King Street. I think it'll probably end up being named 300 King Street
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Can an even street number be named on the opposite side of the street with odd numbers as neighbours ?
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Can an even street number be named on the opposite side of the street with odd numbers as neighbours ?
This is true... I had not considered that
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