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Old September 24th, 2019, 09:21 AM   #1321
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Huangpu Tram Line 1 ready to open in 2020

At present, a cumulative 3500 meters of track laid, tram line 1 will be planned to use about 3 months to carry out the trial test at the end of December.

Tram Line 1 vehicles are about 37 meters long, 2.65 meters wide and 3.68 metres high, the entire train is rated as carrying not less than 280 people, the maximum capacity is not less than 360 people, the seat is not less than 50. The train body is made of stainless steel.

The vehicle uses on-board supercapacitor energy storage elements to power power, improve the stability of the battery, extend the battery life, but also to achieve fast-charging: the vehicle into the station using passengers to get on and off the train time of 30 seconds to complete the charge. Compared to traditional trams, vehicles use intelligent transportation systems to control traffic. The road level will be followed by the intersection, ensuring that trams are given the green light without significantly affecting the level of service at the intersection, giving priority to crossing the junction.

According to the plan, after the opening of the tram line 1, the frequency of a 10-minute departure will be arranged, a total of 10 special trains, the journey of about 35 minutes. In addition, in terms of speed, the tram has a maximum speed of more than 50 km/h and an average speed of about 35 km/h.

The route uses a ground line, with a total length of about 14.4 km, of which the elevated section (Shuixi Village to Changping section along the Nangang River) is about 1.4 km, and there are two tunnels: the tunnel under the ridge and the tunnel under the Hyun River. There are 19 stations, a vehicle section and a trains deport.


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Old September 24th, 2019, 09:27 AM   #1322
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I did some digging and it looks like Line 13's upcoming westward extension more or less overlaps the the Guangzhou BRT route. When open, this line will decimate the BRT's passenger share.

What is the current status of Guangzhou BRT? Are there any other planned?
Guangzhou BRT will be phased out sooner or later, and replaced by tram lines.
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Old September 24th, 2019, 02:47 PM   #1323
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Guangzhou BRT will be phased out sooner or later, and replaced by tram lines.
Do you have any link I can read? I heard this route was very successful. Massive throughput and all. Are they really thinking of phasing it out?
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Old September 24th, 2019, 04:36 PM   #1324
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Do you have any link I can read? I heard this route was very successful. Massive throughput and all. Are they really thinking of phasing it out?
It’s very popular, but the city government in Guangzhou doesn’t think it’s a good use of road space.
In rush hour when the traffic on the car lanes is very serious, you’ll see traffic police directing vehicles into the BRT lanes which totally defeats the purpose...
Guangzhou wants to build more metro lines to lower commuters reliance on buses, since car ownership is increasing and nothing will change that!
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Old September 24th, 2019, 07:52 PM   #1325
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It’s very popular, but the city government in Guangzhou doesn’t think it’s a good use of road space.
In rush hour when the traffic on the car lanes is very serious, you’ll see traffic police directing vehicles into the BRT lanes which totally defeats the purpose...
Guangzhou wants to build more metro lines to lower commuters reliance on buses, since car ownership is increasing and nothing will change that!
Do you think there is any scope for BRT elsewhere in Guangzhou/other Chinese cities like Yichang? Or are BRTs seen only as a stopgap solution?

I am really surprised to hear they are going to close this route. It is probably the most successful BRT outside Latin America.
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Old September 24th, 2019, 09:50 PM   #1326
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48 tram lines. Although at this point that number doesn't surprise me, it's the most complete report of all planned tram lines through a single Chinese city. Aside from "The Town" (Shenzhen) I haven't seen such a complete report for any other cities, only spotty plans here and there.
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Old September 25th, 2019, 06:37 PM   #1327
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the Guangzhou-Dongguan-Shenzhen Intercity Railway busy for the final testing before opening at the end of September

https://www.sohu.com/a/341530904_804...6860354ZBwOvAX

The starting point of the Guangzhou-Dongguan-Shenzhen Intercity Railway is the Xintang Station of the Cadre International TOD Center ,and the ending point is Shenzhen Airport Station, with a total length of about 76 kilometers. There are 1 station in Guangzhou, 10 stations in Dongguan, and 4 stations in Shenzhen. There are 15 stations (10 elevated stations, 5 underground stations) and 2 tunnels. The design speed is 140 - 160 km/h, and the number of passengers in the vehicle is 1,200. After the completion of the project, there will be a train every 5 minutes between Xintang Station(Guangzhou) to Shenzhen Airport.

The time from Xintang station to Shenzhen Airport station is about 40 minutes by train.










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Old September 26th, 2019, 04:48 AM   #1328
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Guangzhou BRT will be phased out sooner or later, and replaced by tram lines.
Says who? That is incriedbily stupid. I know the Guangzhou City Traffic Department is still stuck in the 70s and wants more space for cars but converting to tram is makes ZERO sense. You still have the traffic conflicts at intersections like the BRT but lower capacity. So you just pissed off the drivers and the transit users. Lose, Lose and Lose.

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I did some digging and it looks like Line 13's upcoming westward extension more or less overlaps the the Guangzhou BRT route. When open, this line will decimate the BRT's passenger share.
My gut, Line 13 will compliment the BRT rather than compete with it. the BRT and paraellel Line 5 are both already way overcapcity. So if Line 13 decimates some of the passenger share from both lines, thats a good thing, the latent demand will fill in the spare capacity. Line 13 is an express line with wide stop spacing. the BRT can handle local and non-stop express trips using the passing lanes in every station to run direct non-stop systems.

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Old September 28th, 2019, 05:00 PM   #1329
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Guangzhou Eastern Transport Hub

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Located on the "Dongjin" axis of Guangzhou's urban space development strategy, it integrates national railway, intercity rail, metro lines, long-distance passenger transport, general city bus and taxi service, except for the existing Guangzhou-Shenzhen railway line and metro line 13 Off-line, in the Xintang-Hongmei section of the Guangzhou-Dongguan-Shenzhen Intercity Railway, the Xintang via the Baiyun Airport to the Guangzhou North Intercity Rail and the planned Guangzhou-Shantou Railway, Metro Line 16, Metro Line 20, Metro Line 28(East and West Express) are all here.

This unprecedented super-transport center in eastern Guangzhou has a total investment of 9.69 billion yuan. It adopts an integrated construction mode of orbital station and complex, compound high-speed railway and multi-level transportation system of urban rail, subway, cloud rail and bus center. The average daily traffic is 95,000 passengers.


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Old October 5th, 2019, 03:03 AM   #1330
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Guangzhou Metro hits daily ridership record in September 30 serving 11.134 million trips. Several lines exceeded 1 million rides:

Line 1: 1.137 million
Line 2: 1.753 million
Line 3: 2.704 million
Line 5: 1.445 million
Line 6: 1.043 million

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Old October 12th, 2019, 08:04 AM   #1331
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Says who? That is incriedbily stupid. I know the Guangzhou City Traffic Department is still stuck in the 70s and wants more space for cars but converting to tram is makes ZERO sense. You still have the traffic conflicts at intersections like the BRT but lower capacity. So you just pissed off the drivers and the transit users. Lose, Lose and Lose.



My gut, Line 13 will compliment the BRT rather than compete with it. the BRT and paraellel Line 5 are both already way overcapcity. So if Line 13 decimates some of the passenger share from both lines, thats a good thing, the latent demand will fill in the spare capacity. Line 13 is an express line with wide stop spacing. the BRT can handle local and non-stop express trips using the passing lanes in every station to run direct non-stop systems.
Until now, there is no more new plan for Guangzhou BRT lines.



That means the BRT has no future in Guangzhou.
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Old October 12th, 2019, 08:05 AM   #1332
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Guangzhou Metro Map 2020

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Old October 12th, 2019, 08:22 AM   #1333
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https://www.gz.gov.cn/gzgov/tzgz_dzs...19332e8c6896b2


At present, 15 metro lines have been opened, the mileage is 478 kilometers, and 13 metro lines are under construction.

By 2020, the length of Guangzhou metro system can be reached 600 kilometers.
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Until now, there is no more new plan for Guangzhou BRT lines.



That means the BRT has no future in Guangzhou.
This does not back up your earlier statement. Whatever you think about BRT in Guangzhou is your opinion and not backed up by facts. The one line they did build is very successful.
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No one is doubting the success of Guangzhou’s BRT, but there is definitely some opposition to it among the public (mainly drivers) and calls for it to be dismantled entirely.
The Guangzhou Metro + intercity trains may fill in the service gap left by BRT, along with regular public busses on designated lanes during peak hours.
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Guangzhou North Railway Station planning T4 terminal with APM connecting to the Baiyun airport in 8 minutes

http://news.dayoo.com/guangzhou/2019...5_52853544.htm

According to the latest plan, a dedicated light rail line (APM line) will connect the T4 terminal building which will be added to the northeast corner of Guangzhou North Railway Station to the existing two terminal buildings of Baiyun Airport. The total length of the line is about 15 kilometers and the time is about 8 minute.




Guangzhou North Railway Station New Town rendering



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After a series of preparatory work, the Guangzhou Metro Line 8 Cultural Park to Fenghuang Xincun Section successfully completed the first live hot-slip test. This section of the line reaches the operation and commissioning stage. This section will be opened at the end of 2019.

http://www.sohu.com/a/346138110_100195567

The civil engineering of the Line 8 north extension, Cultural Park to the Xinxin Section has been completed 87%; among the 13 stations, 12 main structures have been capped, and the remaining one is for main construction; 13 sections and access sections have all been connected Installation and renovation of equipment at 11 stations. The body of the Baiyun Lake depot was basically completed.
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