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Old May 23rd, 2010, 04:51 PM   #1
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Why is it that we have so many subforums here?
It seems to be that there' nowhere near enough activity to warrant splitting everything so much. With Sunderland and Newcastle especially...there's just so much overlap and most things in one are relevant to the other. Surely there should be a united forum?
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 10:58 PM   #2
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Interestng question! I sometimes wonder the opposite thought, though. For example, the only Foum for Scotland is called "Glasgow" and so anyone in Edinburgh, Inverness etc etc has to make do with a single thread within the "Glasgow" forum.
I also wonder where we'd post any news about Alston, Berwick, Alnwick, Ashington or Carlisle, which leads me to think that we need MORE sub-fora.

But when there's not much activity on a sub-forum, then I agree with you, that having separate fora doesn't help. (There's probably more comment, fact and interest in some areas by the "Newcastle" posters than there is by the Locals).
Its hard to see how to make the decisions for merging or separating.

Another twist is that some of the national topic forums duplicate the regional ones (eg the national Transport & Infrastructure forum pontificates on local and regional transport whilst the local people are doing the same on their own sections. There's too many UK HighSpeed Rail threads on SSC - and they don't speak with each other.
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Old May 25th, 2010, 07:04 PM   #3
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I think the factor there with having just a Scotland forum called Glasgow is just awful naming.
If there are only half a board's worth of daily posts for Scotland then everything should just be merged into a Scotland board (and so named). Here I'd suggest a north east board rather than just moving all things Sunderland into Newcastle or whatever.
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Old May 25th, 2010, 07:14 PM   #4
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I like it the way it is. Yes some posts and threads cross-over but more often or not we are able to keep upto date with them. Lets not forget that that both Newcastle and Sunderland have about 100 threads each. If we put Hull's and Teesside's threads ontop of that which get little posts then they would just fall to the bottom, have a respnse then fall to the bottom yet again, eventually forumers from those fourms will just give up and then we will be left without any updates. The lack of posts from Northumberland is mainly down to the fact that we have little or no members from Northumberland, add on top of this that little happens in northumberland apart from a few houses being built so far their is not much worth of note being done in Northumberland. Whatever is done in Northumberland is pretty well coverd in the Morpeth area and Hexham.Tyne Valley threads and are well coverd by a few on the Tyne valley area thread and by both from NH. Having it all into one would just over size the forum and over comlicate it.
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Old May 25th, 2010, 11:32 PM   #5
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Lets not forget that that both Newcastle and Sunderland have about 100 threads each. If we put Hull's and Teesside's threads ontop of that which get little posts then they would just fall to the bottom, have a respnse then fall to the bottom yet again, eventually forumers from those fourms will just give up and then we will be left without any updates. .
Doesn't really matter how many threads a subforum has. Hull has a perfectly decent sized collective of hardcore, steady posters that have been here longer than many others in the north east section, and the amount of threads is just about right for the amount of projects at the moment.

Your point about threads falling to the bottom may well be true, but it would only be the case due to them being swallowed up by threads about football, 'interesting facts' and skybars from other regions. Fundamentally, the Hull forumers stick to what we have always stuck to - discussion about development in and around the city's strategic development areas. The times when the amount of posts fall off is when the amount of construction slows down. As it should be.

I agree with everybody else really. Things are fine as they are, we don't bother you and you don't bother us.

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Old June 8th, 2010, 11:17 AM   #6
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I have changed the title of this thread.

It was originally set up by Tyr to discuss only the 'four internal forums' issue.

It attracted very few comments and was becoming dormant.

However, I do think it would be useful to have a more "ongoing" thread in this shared section of the 'North East England Sub-Forum', where we can occasionally mention issues of joint concern, or ask questions of other posters (from the other three internal forums) or you can even ask me (as your moderator) some questions.

Nothing too difficult, for me though please!!

There are individual "feedback" threads on all four of the internal forums, but we may as well have a shared one too. I could have started a NEW thread for this, but seeing as this one was already started (discussing a 'shared interest' issue) I thought we may as well adapt it!

Not many of us come onto this shared page of the sub-forum . . . but if you do and have something to say . . . THIS IS THE PLACE!
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Old June 19th, 2010, 04:33 PM   #7
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I wonder if we should keep monitoring this question - the creation of further sub divisions of the North East, or merging them?

Personally, I'd favour one or two MORE sub-fora (if the news, issues and of course the number of active members justified it) rather than merging them. I can't help feeling that folks with interests in, say, Consett, Hexham, Berwick or Rothbury are going to remain silent rather than add to a thread concerning Morpeth, Durham etc.

I've been prompted to raise this after watching the consequence of the re-naming of the Glasgow Forum to "Scotland and Glasgow Architecture Forum" (subtitle including ". . . and the country in general.") and it seems to me that there is now suddenly more posts in threads about Edinburgh, Inverness, Dundee and The Highlands than there were when it was called "Glasgow".

So I conclude from this that we shouldn't always wait for contributions about new areas, but accept that simply the creation of a forum about a certain area is likely to generate interest and comment!

Perhaps we could experiment, by kick-starting a new sub-area sometime, and see what interest it generates - if if doesn't then any posts can be merged back into the existing four. One suggestion that comes to mind would be Alnwick, where there's always been a vociferous community who comment on developments there (though perhaps we've missed the biggest wave of developments?).
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Old June 20th, 2010, 02:06 PM   #8
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Personally, I'd favour one or two MORE sub-fora (if the news, issues and of course the number of active members justified it) rather than merging them. I can't help feeling that folks with interests in, say, Consett, Hexham, Berwick or Rothbury are going to remain silent rather than add to a thread concerning Morpeth, Durham etc.

I've been prompted to raise this after watching the consequence of the re-naming of the Glasgow Forum to "Scotland and Glasgow Architecture Forum" (subtitle including ". . . and the country in general.") and it seems to me that there is now suddenly more posts in threads about Edinburgh, Inverness, Dundee and The Highlands than there were when it was called "Glasgow".
The key there is naming, not more forums.
New sub forums should only be created when a existing one has so many active threads that stuff from the past day or two gets pushed off the bottom of the page.

I live in Co.Durham but I very very rarely post in the Sunderland forum. It just isn't active enough, I very rarely even check it and just stick to Newcastle where interesting stuff happens.
With the two merged though then I would post on threads related to Sunderland and Co.Durham far more often as seeing them would be a easier task.

Right now for instance I'm considering making a thread about something in Stanley. But where do I put it? The Sunderland board is the official board but Stanley is just right next to Gateshead, there's far more local interest there and the people in the Newcastle board would potentially know far more about and be more interested in the project than people from right over by the coast. But then perhaps there is some Co.Durham people on the Sunderland board. They'd miss this thread relevant to them if its on Newcastle. Its all a mess, too focussed on (largely outdated) politics and football which doesn't reflect the situation on the ground.

We really should just go with a tyne and wear and surrounding area forum.
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Old October 30th, 2010, 06:14 PM   #9
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There is a discussion taking place in the 'Forum Issues' section of SSC, regarding the possibilty of a "South of England" Sub-forum being set up.

HERE - https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1243069

Both myself and Chris have got involved a little bit, in the discussion.

I have been spreading the word about our North East England sub-forum in the discussion, while offering some advice as to possible "structures" that could be adopted by a South Sub Forum.

As part of that discussion, it was mentioned that there could well be some areas of The South, that would not easily be covered by any of the suggested City-Region Internal Forums, and I said that those areas could still use the 'communal area' that would be available beneath the internal forums - if they chose to have internal forums!

In other words, the equivalent area to this area here, where this thread is.

It made me wonder if there were any geographical parts of North East England, not really covered by our four internal forums, that we could utilise our own 'communal area' for?

AN EXAMPLE . . .

The remit of the 'Newcastle Metro Area' Forum, includes South Northumberland, and to that end we have "Area Developments" threads on there for places like Blyth and Cramlington, and as far North as Morpeth. We also have the 'Tyne Valley' covered on its own Developments thread, for places like Prudhoe and Hexham.

Now, I'm sure we would happily cover on the Newcastle Forum, areas of Northumberland further West than Prudhoe/Hexham, and further North than Morpeth.

However (in the spirit of the discussions about "The South Sub-Forum") I just wondered if we might take the opportunity of similarly making better use of this 'communal area' of our forum, to cover areas not immediately identifiable as being part of our four internal forums.

So . . .

I thought I would kick it off with a Northumberland Area Developments - Areas and Subjects NOT being covered on the "Newcastle" Forum thread!


In conclusion:


1 - Do people agree that there are areas we could cover here, and that it would be a good idea to more utilise this area of our sub-forum?

2 - Can anyone think of any other 'areas' (from North Lincolnshire up through Teesside and Durham, etc) not seemingly included in our four internal forums, where issues of relevance to us on SSC could be happening, that we could set up a 'Developments type' thread for in this communal area?

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Old October 30th, 2010, 08:52 PM   #10
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I was thinking of posting something about the redevelopment of whitehaven habour, which obviously isn't in the north east but doesn't really fit anywhere else. I can't imagine posting anything about cumbria in the manchester or liverpool forums would generate the slightest hint of interest. Cumbria does seam more conected culturally to the north east than the rest of the north west and is part of the BBC Look North area. Not what you had in mind I'm sure, unless you wanted to extend the sub-forum to the whole borders region.
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Interesting, because we do not cover Cumbria, that's true.

But, if this communal area of the North East England Forum is where the subject would be seen by more people who might be interested in it, would know about it, and would be more likely to comment on it (than anywhere else) - then give it a go!!

As you say, Cumbria get their BBC local TV from Newcastle ('The North East and Cumbria') so there is a natural link already in existence.

I suppose, if it doesn't work out, your thread could be moved over to a North West forum (?) at a later date.

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I suppose, if it doesn't work out, your thread could be moved over to a North West forum (?) at a later date.

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There isn't a north west forum though - just manchester and liverpool. Can I create threads in this 'no man's land' part of the north east forum for cumbrian issues? Seams like the best place, although I don't read it much.
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I know this is a bit of a long shot but is there any way of getting a direct link to the NE forums from the SSC home page. The UK forum section has links for a number of subforums under it including london, manchester, etc. but no NE england. Not a big deal really, just saves an extra click if you're starting at the homepage.
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There isn't a north west forum though - just manchester and liverpool. Can I create threads in this 'no man's land' part of the north east forum for cumbrian issues? Seams like the best place, although I don't read it much.

May as well give it a try and see if people get involved.

Once you have set one (or more?) up, I will see what I can do to publicise things around SSC, so that "Cumbrians" find their way here.

As I said, if it does fall flat, I will find somewhere to move it/them to, but (frankly) this communal area of the North East England Forum, is probably the best (most logical) place for Cumbrian issues, as with the BBC ("North East & Cumbria" area)

Though we will NOT be changing the Forum Name!

Anyway, let's see how it goes . . .

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I know this is a bit of a long shot but is there any way of getting a direct link to the NE forums from the SSC home page. The UK forum section has links for a number of subforums under it including london, manchester, etc. but no NE england. Not a big deal really, just saves an extra click if you're starting at the homepage.

This has been asked before.

I am advised that there is no more space on the SSC Home Page, other forums would like to be linked from there too!
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Maybe we should take out the South bit in the Nortumberland sub-title on the Newcastle section. Sunderland covers Durham, so maybe we should cover the whole of Northumberland in it's own thread since we already cover the majority of it?
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Maybe we should take out the South bit in the Nortumberland sub-title on the Newcastle section. Sunderland covers Durham, so maybe we should cover the whole of Northumberland in it's own thread since we already cover the majority of it?

That is certainly an option, but essentially the 'Newcastle Metro Area' forum was set up to cover the 'Metropolitan Area' (the Newcastle Urban Area) so North Northumberland was not really included.

As you say, it could be, but we have (already) the ideal area to cover it, in here (the 'shared/communal' area) and I hope to attract other 'more rural' type-areas to join in.

We've already got Cumbria, as well, now!

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I'm not saying it's going to happen, but if what has been mentioned on another thread happens, I.E. Humberside going with either a Yorkshire or Midlands Sub-Forum, what would be the chances of their place being taken by a Northumberland and Cumbria section? It maybe low on the post count but if SSC is to have an overhau then surely that is a reasonable option.
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 12:33 AM   #19
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If any of you have been having problems logging in to Skyscraper City this evening, it has been a worldwide problem and everyone has had the same problem.

It has been virtually impossible to gain access for the last three or four hours tonight (18.00 to 22.00 Hrs).

When I enquired about it, I was told . . .

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we're having problems with the network in one of the cabinets.
Well, I'm sure some of you know what that means! Anyway, the SSC IT people are pretty hot stuff, and it is now sorted.
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Combined 'North East Forum' Area - Feedback, Ideas, Moderator Messages, etc

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USING THIS COMMUNAL AREA OF THE NORTH EAST ENGLAND SUB-FORUM . . .


Recently, a thread has been set up in this 'communal area' of the forum, called "Northumberland Area Developments - Areas NOT covered on the Newcastle Forum"

That thread covers the areas in the 'extreme-West' and 'extreme-North' of the County of Northumberland.

Those areas have 'urban-development' issues, like any other area, but they are either not actually covered by the Newcastle Metro Area Forum (they are outwith the remit of that forum) or they are simply not easily covered on there, because they are not 'identifiable' with the Metropolitan Area.

I feel that there may well be a similar situation in certain areas of North Lincolnshire, where there are small developments and relevant issues for discussion, that do not readily fall to be covered by the Hull and Humber forum.

If so . . . they can be covered, and discussed, in this thread.
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