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Old June 7th, 2017, 11:39 PM   #101
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It does not affect you or you country, it's not your buisness.

Why are you putting so much effort into this?
you deem it a useless organization so why are you concerned
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Old June 8th, 2017, 10:04 AM   #102
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my point was that west Africa has always ties with north Africa, and that this relation didn't start in 2017.
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Old June 8th, 2017, 12:24 PM   #103
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my point was that west Africa has always ties with north Africa, and that this relation didn't start in 2017.
East africa has always had ties with the Middle East. Maybe Saudi Arabia should join the EAC
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Old June 8th, 2017, 12:52 PM   #104
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you deem it a useless organization so why are you concerned
So do you want me to repeat myself?
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Old June 8th, 2017, 01:28 PM   #105
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So do you want me to repeat myself?
Trying to understand your issue with umoja who actually sees value in the org
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Old June 8th, 2017, 02:25 PM   #106
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Trying to understand your issue with umoja who actually sees value in the org
So would you allow Maurtania to come back to the fold, since it was once a member of Ecowas? Also what would be the difference between Mauritania from Morocco since a significant amount of the population is ethnically connected to their neighbors further north?


http://www.irinnews.org/news/2000/12...lls-out-ecowas
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Old June 8th, 2017, 02:37 PM   #107
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So would you allow Maurtania to come back to the fold, since it was once a member of Ecowas? Also what would be the difference between Mauritania from Morocco since a significant amount of the population is ethnically connected to their neighbors further north?


http://www.irinnews.org/news/2000/12...lls-out-ecowas
Maybe that's why they left ECOWAS...
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Old June 8th, 2017, 02:38 PM   #108
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So would you allow Maurtania to come back to the fold, since it was once a member of Ecowas? Also what would be the difference between Mauritania from Morocco since a significant amount of the population is ethnically connected to their neighbors further north?


http://www.irinnews.org/news/2000/12...lls-out-ecowas
Mauritania is west African. Ethnicity isn't the issue. I'm confused as to why they denied entry but Morocco allowed in which suggests something underhanded
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Old June 8th, 2017, 02:58 PM   #109
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So would you allow Maurtania to come back to the fold, since it was once a member of Ecowas? Also what would be the difference between Mauritania from Morocco since a significant amount of the population is ethnically connected to their neighbors further north?


http://www.irinnews.org/news/2000/12...lls-out-ecowas
Do you think Sudan should join East Africa Community?
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Old June 8th, 2017, 09:07 PM   #110
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Do you think Sudan should join East Africa Community?

No, not at this time due to political issues(getting rid of Omar Bashir), Also Sudan i believe did apply but East African deny Sudan entry, since do not border the main members country besides South Sudan, and i remembered reading they mentioned geographically we are North Africa(i have to find the article on that). I would not mind a economic unity with our northern neighbor(Egypt) which makes sense. Since they are stronger economically then many East African nations combined, and we been dealing with them the longest until separation in 1955.


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Mauritania is west African. Ethnicity isn't the issue. I'm confused as to why they denied entry but Morocco allowed in which suggests something underhanded

I don't believe they ask for entry at this moment, i think they are more or less observing at this time.
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Mauritania is west African. Ethnicity isn't the issue. I'm confused as to why they denied entry but Morocco allowed in which suggests something underhanded
That just proves you don't know what you're talking about!

First, They diden't deny entry to Mauritania! Mauritania asked for an association agreement with ECOWAS, and ECOWAS replied NO, and asked them to apply for membership instead! Basically Mauritania asked for a billateral agreement with ECOWAS, where they get to pick and choose what part of ECOWAS they like (they could opt out of free movement of people or choose to keep barriers for certain goods for example)! And very understandabely, ECOWAS replied that it's the whole thing or no deal...

Second, you seem dead focused on the west african thing, well it dosen't mean crap! If they felt like it they could invite Brazil for all that matters! It's all about interests!

By the way I thoght you said Morocco was never getting in? Get you shit strait!
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Old June 8th, 2017, 10:14 PM   #113
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Mauritania is west African. Ethnicity isn't the issue. I'm confused as to why they denied entry but Morocco allowed in which suggests something underhanded
Just admit it! It's all about race! All the religious, democracy, french... it's just BS! At the end of the day it's all about race!
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Old June 9th, 2017, 12:14 AM   #114
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That just proves you don't know what you're talking about!

First, They diden't deny entry to Mauritania! Mauritania asked for an association agreement with ECOWAS, and ECOWAS replied NO, and asked them to apply for membership instead! Basically Mauritania asked for a billateral agreement with ECOWAS, where they get to pick and choose what part of ECOWAS they like (they could opt out of free movement of people or choose to keep barriers for certain goods for example)! And very understandabely, ECOWAS replied that it's the whole thing or no deal...

Second, you seem dead focused on the west african thing, well it dosen't mean crap! If they felt like it they could invite Brazil for all that matters! It's all about interests!

By the way I thoght you said Morocco was never getting in? Get you shit strait!
I said Morocco shouldn't get in. I don't have the power to say it never will.
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Old June 9th, 2017, 01:26 AM   #115
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Just admit it! It's all about race! All the religious, democracy, french... it's just BS! At the end of the day it's all about race!
What he's trying to say is that it's weird how they want Morocco in but not Mauritania, and it could be because of the not-so-subtle bribes M6 has been handing over in West Africa under the form of investments in the region. That means there were no real basis for its admissions.
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Old June 9th, 2017, 01:56 AM   #116
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What he's trying to say is that it's weird how they want Morocco in but not Mauritania, and it could be because of the not-so-subtle bribes M6 has been handing over in West Africa under the form of investments in the region. That means there were no real basis for its admissions.
For the 1000 time! They didn't say no to Mauritania! do you know how to read or just pull stuff out of your ass?

And investement (That have been happening for more than a decade, prior to morocco even joining the AU) are what now?

Investement is BRIBES? RU serious?!

You're ridiculous...

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Morocco’s Admission in ECOWAS is Anti-Nigeria, Akinyemi Warns

Former External Affairs Minister, Prof. Bolaji Akinyemi, thursday said that the admission of Morocco into ECOWAS was meant to whittle down Nigeria’s influence in the sub-regional body, and by extension, the world.

Akinyemi also said that the recent admission of Morocco into the regional organisation, was an anti-Nigeria move.

Having failed to find any rational benefit to ECOWAS by expanding membership to Morocco, I can only conclude that the move is to whittle down Nigeria’s influence in ECOWAS.

“And by extension, in the world, as Nigeria’s status as a regional power is facilitated by its role in ECOWAS.

Nigeria has only one option. Let the West African Heads of State and Presidents drop this whole issue of expansion to the Mediterranean.

Or Nigeria should serve notice that it would terminate, not suspend, but terminate her membership of ECOWAS,’’ he said.

According to him, this issue is the biggest challenge to Nigeria’s foreign policy since the civil war.

Akinyemi noted that Morocco’s admission into ECOWAS would now make her benefit from the Arab League quota, as well as from the West African quota.

The United Nations, African Union and all international institutions now use the concept of regionalism in the distribution of both appointive and elective posts.

ECOWAS cannot unilaterally expand the boundary of West Africa to the Mediterranean,’’ he stressed.
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France wants to undermine Nigeria hegemony in the region by Morocco admission...If Morocco is admitted, Nigeria should leave ECOWAS...
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Old June 9th, 2017, 01:14 PM   #119
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France wants to undermine Nigeria hegemony in the region by Morocco admission...If Morocco is admitted, Nigeria should leave ECOWAS...


Obsessed with France aren't you?!! Are you still living in the 70s or what?

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Obsessed with France aren't you?!! Are you still living in the 70s or what?



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How France armed Biafra's bid to break from Nigeria

France secretly armed Biafra in the self-proclaimed republic’s attempt to break away from Nigeria in a bid to weaken British and US influence in Africa, documents seen by RFI reveal 50 years after the beginning of a war that cost up to two million lives.

The ethnic Igbo-majority Eastern Region declared its independence on 30 May 1967, following a military coup, a counter-coup and what French diplomats described as “pogroms” of tens of thousands of Igbo living in northern Nigeria the previous year.

The attempt to break away led to a 32-month war, which was to see about between 500,000 and two million deaths from starvation caused by Nigeria’s blockade of the breakaway region.

Nigeria’s former colonial ruler, Britain, backed the Lagos government’s One-Nigeria policy, covertly providing weapons and military intelligence.

The US declared itself neutral, while the Soviet Union gave full support to the Nigerian government.

Although France – unlike allies Gabon and Côte d’Ivoire -- never recognised Biafra diplomatically, it backed what then president Charles de Gaulle called its “just and noble cause.

Anglophone giant

De Gaulle saw the conflict as a means to weaken the “anglophone giant” of west Africa, which was surrounded by former French colonies closely aligned with Paris through a policy of defending French interests that would come to be known as Françafrique.

While French Foreign Affairs Minister Maurice Couve de Murville declared that his country was observing a “complete embargo”, the presidential palace’s notorious “Africa cell”, headed by the controversial Jacques Foccart, sent large quantities of arms to the Biafran side, taking care to keep the operation secret from the Quai d’Orsay.

The planes carrying the weapons had to pass through the airspace of several countries that opposed the process, prompting a complaint by Morocco, which had not granted them access.

They landed at Uli, “Africa’s busiest airport”, according to Biafra supporters. But it was in such a poor state that pilots flying for Nigeria, including South African mercenaries, sometimes mistook it for a stretch of road. Pilots recruited by Biafra were in the know and managed to bring 75 tonnes of rifles, assault rifles, bazookas, grenades and cannon in just 11 days in 1969, documents show.

Appeal for more weapons

But, with the Biafran side losing ground, Foccart’s men appealed for more.
Warning that the breakaway territory could fall “before the end of October [1969]”, one of them Philippe Lettéron, wrote in a note now in the national archives and seen by RFI, “to take back control of the situation and have some hope of regaining the lost territory, a massive effort of at least 600 tonnes of arms and munitions would be needed in a very short space of time.

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http://en.rfi.fr/africa/20170525-how...-break-nigeria
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