F1 Circuits Worldwide - Page 3

cwilson758 · April 17th, 2006, 10:07 PM

Indianapolis may not be as glamorous as Monaco, but the being the birth-place of auto-racing counts for something! Racing is a part of Indy and the local fans appreciate anything associated with speed. With the US Grand Prix at a permanent home now (I hope), the event should continue to grow so long as last year never happens again! I don't think any other American City coulds appreciate the F-1 like Indianapolis. The IMS facility is also top-notch! I love going to the track and the Pagoda is beautiful! Nice to see some of you like it here as well!

DrasQue · April 17th, 2006, 10:11 PM

Istanbul !!!!

DrasQue · April 17th, 2006, 10:16 PM

Bahrain 4/10
Malaysia 6/10
Melbourne 6/10
Imola 6/10
Nurburgring 7/10
Barcelona 4/10
Monaco 7/10
Silverstone 7/10
Canada 7/10
Indianapolis 4/10
Magny-Cours 6/10
Hockenheiem 6/10
Hungary 6/10
Istanbul 9/10
Monza 7/10
Spa 8/10
Shanghai 7/10
Suzuka 7/10
Interlagos 7/10

Top 5

Istanbul
Spa
Monaco
Monza
Suzuka
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reyrey · April 18th, 2006, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cwilson758

Indianapolis may not be as glamorous as Monaco, but the being the birth-place of auto-racing counts for something! Racing is a part of Indy and the local fans appreciate anything associated with speed. With the US Grand Prix at a permanent home now (I hope), the event should continue to grow so long as last year never happens again! I don't think any other American City coulds appreciate the F-1 like Indianapolis. The IMS facility is also top-notch! I love going to the track and the Pagoda is beautiful! Nice to see some of you like it here as well!

Indianapolis, whilst being a great track, is not totally suited to F1.
The in-field section they made is pretty awful, but i suppose they couldn't really do much more with the space they had.
Still, untill someone refurbishes an existing track, or builds a new circuit dedicated to F1 (or champ cars) i'm more than happy for F1 to stay at indy.

victory · April 18th, 2006, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cwilson758

Indianapolis may not be as glamorous as Monaco, but the being the birth-place of auto-racing counts for something! Racing is a part of Indy and the local fans appreciate anything associated with speed. With the US Grand Prix at a permanent home now (I hope), the event should continue to grow so long as last year never happens again! I don't think any other American City coulds appreciate the F-1 like Indianapolis. The IMS facility is also top-notch! I love going to the track and the Pagoda is beautiful! Nice to see some of you like it here as well!

Perhaps the city could build a more suitable track. The indy speedway is just not a good F1 venue.

samba_man · April 18th, 2006, 08:35 PM

I LUV INTERLAGOS !

cwilson758 · April 19th, 2006, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by victory

Perhaps the city could build a more suitable track. The indy speedway is just not a good F1 venue.

I wouldn't be surprised if the owners of IMS and the City did something along those lines if the F-1 race commited to here for a long period!

mic · April 19th, 2006, 09:56 AM

Albert Park Melbourne Australia

Durbsboi · April 19th, 2006, 10:46 AM

San Marino this weekend, any tips on who's gonna win it?

BobDaBuilder · April 19th, 2006, 12:52 PM

Melbourne seriously needs to look at building a permanent circuit. Albert Park is simply not sustainable.

victory · April 19th, 2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BobDaBuilder

Melbourne seriously needs to look at building a permanent circuit. Albert Park is simply not sustainable.

Yes it is sustainable, why would you say it isn't?

There is no need for a permanent circuit. And the event would just not be the same.

At Albert Park Lake we can have huge crowds, carnival attractions, no shortage of space, a great track, and then convert it back to a terrific public space for most of the year.

DUBAI · April 19th, 2006, 06:19 PM

Albert park is a little boring. it has so many similar corners. 90 degree right lefts... perhaps if they mixed them up a little?

reyrey · April 20th, 2006, 12:21 AM

It's a street circuit (i think) so they probably can't change it much.
It's a nice circuit, but nothing special.
I have no idea how its managed to come 3rd in this poll...

victory · April 20th, 2006, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DUBAI

Albert park is a little boring. it has so many similar corners. 90 degree right lefts... perhaps if they mixed them up a little?

Have you ever seen the section from after turn 10 leading up until turn 13? that is one of the great sections in F1 IMHO.
And its not just 90s L or R. The track takes bend (like between T10 and T11), then theres the tree shadows over the back sections which really bring back the art of racing which is just not seen in many of the pure racing circuits these days.

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Originally Posted by reyrey

It's a street circuit (i think) so they probably can't change it much.
It's a nice circuit, but nothing special.
I have no idea how its managed to come 3rd in this poll...

2nd if you dont count the "other" option which makes up a few different tracks. I'd say thas about right to, Monaco is unbeatable, but Melbourne is better than the rest.

nikolaidis · April 20th, 2006, 10:41 AM

For those who want to revive it : The Big Crash in Spa of 1998 !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vy5D-ylpgA&search=F1

( no one got hurt ! )

BobDaBuilder · April 20th, 2006, 11:33 AM

Albert Park ain't sustainable because it costs $30 million just to build the temporary grandstands for 80,000 people every year for a 4 day event. That is before you get to the other costs. You would be down $50 million in costs for 1 race before you even take a dollar in. Not forgetting the Melbourne GP gets nothing from tv money, has to PAY money to FOCA.

And we wonder why it costs $100 just for the "honour" of standing on a grass bank out on some back straight.

You'd be better off getting $100 million and building a superb track like Nurburgring, KL or Shanghai.

I'd hate to think what it has cost over the 11 years so far.

victory · April 20th, 2006, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BobDaBuilder

And we wonder why it costs $100 just for the "honour" of standing on a grass bank out on some back straight.

That WOULD be a wonder, thank god tickets dont cost anywhere near that much for adult general admission. And thank god so many people still love to go there. That many people would not travel out to the god forsaken outskirts of Meloburne to watch a race on a barren heartless track.

BobDaBuilder · April 20th, 2006, 02:15 PM

^

News flash: MOST people don't live in South Melbourne or Albert Park so a lot of people have to commute a fair way to get to the track anyway. Also: they get big crowds to Sandown for the 500 and a lot of people trek up to Bathurst up in woop-woop.

You have this track at Albert Park that cannot be used for the rest of the year. If you go to Calder or Sandown you can stage touring car races, junior races, drags, practice days, racing courses etc.. The place is making a return for the tax-payers investment. Not just a 3/4 day circus for a bill of 30 million bucks.

If a private business was bankrolling the event it would never, ever happen. They would build a facility.

victory · April 20th, 2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BobDaBuilder

^

News flash: MOST people don't live in South Melbourne or Albert Park so a lot of people have to commute a fair way to get to the track anyway. Also: they get big crowds to Sandown for the 500 and a lot of people trek up to Bathurst up in woop-woop.

But most of people can esily catch public transport to Flinder street station, cross the road and hop on a tram for a short ride directly to the Park.

And Sandown, nor any other track is F1 worthy. And the price of building one would be so high it blows you 'set-up the park cost' argument to shreds.

BobDaBuilder · April 20th, 2006, 04:06 PM

^

Your kidding. How the hell can you justify pissing away $30 million a year just to construct a temporary race track?

The only way they are getting away with it at the moment is because the state government is "sworn to secrecy by Bernie Ecclestone."

Long term, if we want to keep grand prix racing in Melbourne we need to build a track that will make a profit/surplus not a massive loss year in year out.

View Poll Results: My Favourite F1 Circuit
Sepang International Circuit - Malasia	105	9.79%
Melbourn GP Circuit Albert Park - Melbourne, Australia	92	8.57%
Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari - San Marino	24	2.24%
Nurburgring - Germany	63	5.87%
Circuit de Catalunya - Catalunya, Spain	38	3.54%
Circuit de Monaco - Monaco	234	21.81%
Silverstone Circuit - England, Great Britain	71	6.62%
Circuit Gilles Villeneuve - Canada	74	6.90%
Indianapolis Motor Speedway - USA	53	4.94%
Hockenheiem-Ring Motodrom - Germany	34	3.17%
Autodromo Nazionale Monza - Italy	126	11.74%
Suzuka International Racetrack - Japan	83	7.74%
Interlagos - Sao Paulo, Brazil	188	17.52%
Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours - France	24	2.24%
Other (Newer Circuits): Shanghai Intl. ; Hungaroring Sport, Hungary; Bahrain Intl. ; Tomsfed, Turkey	196	18.27%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 1073. You may not vote on this poll

April 17th, 2006, 10:07 PM	#41
cwilson758 Cory Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco via Indianapolis Posts: 3,403 Likes (Received): 15	Indianapolis may not be as glamorous as Monaco, but the being the birth-place of auto-racing counts for something! Racing is a part of Indy and the local fans appreciate anything associated with speed. With the US Grand Prix at a permanent home now (I hope), the event should continue to grow so long as last year never happens again! I don't think any other American City coulds appreciate the F-1 like Indianapolis. The IMS facility is also top-notch! I love going to the track and the Pagoda is beautiful! Nice to see some of you like it here as well! __________________ "Indianapolis has the reputation of a shark striking when other cities sleep."

April 18th, 2006, 08:35 PM	#46
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April 19th, 2006, 10:46 AM	#49
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April 19th, 2006, 06:19 PM	#52
DUBAI Under the Burj Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Where the sun shines weakley Posts: 3,491 Likes (Received): 1	Albert park is a little boring. it has so many similar corners. 90 degree right lefts... perhaps if they mixed them up a little? __________________ "Don't criticize what you can't understand" -Bob Dylan

April 17th, 2006, 10:11 PM	#42
DrasQue Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,286 Likes (Received): 2	Istanbul !!!!

April 17th, 2006, 10:16 PM	#43
DrasQue Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,286 Likes (Received): 2	Bahrain 4/10 Malaysia 6/10 Melbourne 6/10 Imola 6/10 Nurburgring 7/10 Barcelona 4/10 Monaco 7/10 Silverstone 7/10 Canada 7/10 Indianapolis 4/10 Magny-Cours 6/10 Hockenheiem 6/10 Hungary 6/10 Istanbul 9/10 Monza 7/10 Spa 8/10 Shanghai 7/10 Suzuka 7/10 Interlagos 7/10 Top 5 Istanbul Spa Monaco Monza Suzuka __________________

April 19th, 2006, 09:56 AM	#48
mic Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 2,296 Likes (Received): 1125	Albert Park Melbourne Australia

April 19th, 2006, 12:52 PM	#50
BobDaBuilder Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Yarck Posts: 1,542 Likes (Received): 1	Melbourne seriously needs to look at building a permanent circuit. Albert Park is simply not sustainable.

April 20th, 2006, 12:21 AM	#53
reyrey Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 89 Likes (Received): 0	It's a street circuit (i think) so they probably can't change it much. It's a nice circuit, but nothing special. I have no idea how its managed to come 3rd in this poll...

April 20th, 2006, 10:41 AM	#55
nikolaidis nikolaidis Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Brussels Posts: 170 Likes (Received): 0	For those who want to revive it : The Big Crash in Spa of 1998 !!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vy5D-ylpgA&search=F1 ( no one got hurt ! )

April 20th, 2006, 11:33 AM	#56
BobDaBuilder Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Yarck Posts: 1,542 Likes (Received): 1	Albert Park ain't sustainable because it costs $30 million just to build the temporary grandstands for 80,000 people every year for a 4 day event. That is before you get to the other costs. You would be down $50 million in costs for 1 race before you even take a dollar in. Not forgetting the Melbourne GP gets nothing from tv money, has to PAY money to FOCA. And we wonder why it costs $100 just for the "honour" of standing on a grass bank out on some back straight. You'd be better off getting $100 million and building a superb track like Nurburgring, KL or Shanghai. I'd hate to think what it has cost over the 11 years so far.

April 20th, 2006, 02:15 PM	#58
BobDaBuilder Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Yarck Posts: 1,542 Likes (Received): 1	^ News flash: MOST people don't live in South Melbourne or Albert Park so a lot of people have to commute a fair way to get to the track anyway. Also: they get big crowds to Sandown for the 500 and a lot of people trek up to Bathurst up in woop-woop. You have this track at Albert Park that cannot be used for the rest of the year. If you go to Calder or Sandown you can stage touring car races, junior races, drags, practice days, racing courses etc.. The place is making a return for the tax-payers investment. Not just a 3/4 day circus for a bill of 30 million bucks. If a private business was bankrolling the event it would never, ever happen. They would build a facility.

April 20th, 2006, 04:06 PM	#60
BobDaBuilder Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Yarck Posts: 1,542 Likes (Received): 1	^ Your kidding. How the hell can you justify pissing away $30 million a year just to construct a temporary race track? The only way they are getting away with it at the moment is because the state government is "sworn to secrecy by Bernie Ecclestone." Long term, if we want to keep grand prix racing in Melbourne we need to build a track that will make a profit/surplus not a massive loss year in year out.