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Old April 14th, 2016, 04:56 PM   #1
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First look: Developer pursues 40-story skyscraper in SoBro



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A group of developers released plans Wednesday for what would become one of downtown Nashville's four largest skyscrapers, a 40-story tower that would contain a five-star hotel and condos.
In addition, the project also would involve a second, slightly shorter tower with apartments, plus retail and restaurant space — all consuming the entire city block in SoBro adjacent to the pedestrian bridge that spans the Cumberland River, at 151 First Ave. S. What's there today is one of downtown's earliest apartment buildings, the three-story Market Street Apartments, and paved parking lots.

The mega-development, the origins of which we first reported last fall, would inject another skyline-defining project into Nashville amid an epic fury of construction and sizzling real estate market ignited by the city's budding national profile, humming economy and surging population growth (including downtown, whose population is up 60 percent in five years).

At $325 million, the development would be the fifth-largest proposed or underway in the county, according to our Crane Watch development map. The project also drives home the reality that SoBro is the epicenter of Nashville's real estate boom — and Demonbreun Street's status as the most important in the city right now, when it comes to development.

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Heights and floor counts as details emerge...
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Old April 14th, 2016, 04:57 PM   #2
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Old April 19th, 2016, 08:52 AM   #3
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Developers will seek approval for design

Skyscraper developers paying record-smashing price for SoBro land
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Old April 20th, 2016, 12:43 AM   #4
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They will easily get approval. Stunning design. Won't be near 500 feet, but we are getting closer. Someday we will hit 600 or possibly 700 feet. (ATT is 617 with spires, 527 without.)
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Wait a sec! How do you know this won't be "near 500 feet"?

If the taller of these two towers is 40+ stories and at 12 ft. per floor, then this should be around 480' or taller with the usual 15' ground and 13-15' second floor podium. And the rendering appears to have a raised section above the top floor. I'd expect this one to come to within 10 feet of 500'.
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Old April 20th, 2016, 09:02 AM   #6
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It is very unlikely this will be taller than the Bridgestone tower (460 ft). Residential and hotel will seldom ever have 12 ft floors. Normally, 10 ft is the most. Think JW Marriot 34x10 +45 = 385, Westin 27*10 +51 = 321

Expect 40*10 + 40 = 440 and be happy if it is taller than that number!!!!!
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Old April 21st, 2016, 09:42 PM   #7
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If the renderings are done to proper scale, the taller tower very well may crack 500ft because The Pinnacle behind it is 417ft and it appears to be at least 70-80ft taller, if not more.
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Old April 21st, 2016, 09:52 PM   #8
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Looks way taller than 500' to me.
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Old April 26th, 2016, 11:34 PM   #9
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This will be starting rather quickly, as in this calendar year. Demo of this old dilapidated building will take only a few weeks. I'll be interested in the core drilling as this building is only 200 years from the river at the most.
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Metro Planning to vote on proposal on May 12

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Old May 5th, 2016, 05:44 PM   #11
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The following article states the height of the towers:

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Second Avenue Partners LLC's project, 485 feet condo building and 415 feet apartment building
From Getahn Ward at The Tennessean:
Planned towers have Nashville's skyline looking up
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Old May 5th, 2016, 07:23 PM   #12
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The following article states the height of the towers:



From Getahn Ward at The Tennessean:
Planned towers have Nashville's skyline looking up
That article links to the story about the towers in PIE town, not 2nd Avenue.
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That article links to the story about the towers in PIE town, not 2nd Avenue.
Are you ever right about anything? This article refers to both projects. It clearly states the Second Avenue towers will be 485' condo and 415' apartment buildings. The Pie Town towers will be between 560' and 600', according to this.
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Old May 6th, 2016, 04:59 AM   #14
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So close to 500'. Nevertheless, both of these will have a completely skyline-altering impact particularly from the pedestrian bridge and Ascend Amphitheater. I'm already impressed with the impact of SoBro in the skyline while walking on the bridge.
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Looks like part of this vote got moved to later in the month? Am I understanding this correctly?:

Friday, May 13, 2016

How tall should Nashville grow?


Press release - A request for a modification for overall building height for property located at 151 1st Avenue South, 150 2nd Avenue South and 134 2nd Avenue South (1.75 acres), zoned DTC and within the SoBro subdistrict, to permit a 40-story mixed use development, where 15 stories is permitted by-right and 30 stories is the by-right bonus height maximum, requested by Second Avenue Partners LLC, applicant; Belle Meade Investments LLC and Market Street Apartments LTD, owner.
This hearing will be held during the regular Planning Commission meeting at 4 pm Thursday, May 26, in the Sonny West Conference Room at Metro's Howard Office Building, 700 Second Avenue South.
Community meeting and public hearing notice - overall height modification
Public hearing notice - community plan amendment
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Looks like part of this vote got moved to later in the month? Am I understanding this correctly?:

Friday, May 13, 2016

How tall should Nashville grow?


Press release - A request for a modification for overall building height for property located at 151 1st Avenue South, 150 2nd Avenue South and 134 2nd Avenue South (1.75 acres), zoned DTC and within the SoBro subdistrict, to permit a 40-story mixed use development, where 15 stories is permitted by-right and 30 stories is the by-right bonus height maximum, requested by Second Avenue Partners LLC, applicant; Belle Meade Investments LLC and Market Street Apartments LTD, owner.
This hearing will be held during the regular Planning Commission meeting at 4 pm Thursday, May 26, in the Sonny West Conference Room at Metro's Howard Office Building, 700 Second Avenue South.
Community meeting and public hearing notice - overall height modification
Public hearing notice - community plan amendment
Correct. Moved to May 26
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Are you ever right about anything? This article refers to both projects. It clearly states the Second Avenue towers will be 485' condo and 415' apartment buildings. The Pie Town towers will be between 560' and 600', according to this.

My mistake, I only skimmed the article, not the whole thing. I am right about many things Urban Framer. You should be so judgmental.

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SoBro skyscraper earns high marks before important vote

Q&A: A look at the two-tower project proposed for SoBro

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War has been declared!

Law firm attempts to stop SoBro project

Exclusive: Ex-planning chief, city's largest law firm oppose 40-story tower

Plans for 40-story SoBro development face opposition

Exclusive: Developers bash Bass Berry & Sims for opposition to skyscraper

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Old May 25th, 2016, 12:32 AM   #20
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The nerve of these Bass, Berry & Sims attorneys trying to hinder a $350 million mixed-use project because they want to maintain their views.

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