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Old September 29th, 2012, 01:09 PM   #1
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It seems like Australia will never get a 100 level building.

They seem to be able to get nearly there with Eureka, Q1 etc but still seem unable to make it to the 100 level.

So when do you predict Australia will get a 100 level building by ?

And which city do you think will be the first to get it ?

My prediction is Gold Coast in about 2022
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Old September 29th, 2012, 01:12 PM   #2
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When the idiots in the Civil Aviation Safety Authority decide buildings above 300m aren't a threat to aviation.
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Old September 29th, 2012, 02:16 PM   #3
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It seems like Australia will never get a 100 level building.

They seem to be able to get nearly there with Eureka, Q1 etc but still seem unable to make it to the 100 level.

So when do you predict Australia will get a 100 level building by ?

And which city do you think will be the first to get it ?

My prediction is Gold Coast in about 2022
I think it'll be Gold Coast, or Melbourne. Outside chance Brisbane.
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Old September 29th, 2012, 02:29 PM   #4
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Pointless thread. Might as well predict who wins the Australian Open in 2020.
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Old September 29th, 2012, 06:02 PM   #5
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Old September 30th, 2012, 01:39 AM   #6
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Pointless thread. Might as well predict who wins the Australian Open in 2020.
Yes.

CULWULLA has given the same reason many times to such questions. Australia at the moment does not have the population to support such tall towers.
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Old September 30th, 2012, 02:23 AM   #7
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It's not about population, it's about land prices and density. Sydney could support such tall towers, as Barangaroo already has as much office space as World Trade Center 1, but spread around 3 buildings! And has a similar price tag, $6b. It's just that the council, CASA and NSW government doesn't want any supertalls.
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Old September 30th, 2012, 05:09 AM   #8
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I thought the intended point of this thread was to focus on 100 storey towers which would mean building well over 300 metres. In Sydney, a 100 storey tower would be about 360 metres tall.

Keep in mind economics plays apart in building anything over eighty floors and it doesn't matter where you are. Taller buildings require more space for lift cores particularly at lower levels and that takes away available space for lease or occupation.
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Old October 2nd, 2012, 01:56 PM   #9
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100 floors at minimum would be 3m floors= 300m. but i cant see this happening. i think it would be a mixed use which would take height to 350m to roof plus an arch feature could take height to 400m.
maybe next 20 years may see one.
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That's why the Empire State Building and Chrsler building etc is not only tall but has a lot of bulk
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My point is the Barangaroo project is equivalent to a 400m supertall in the amount of office space that is being delivered and in cost. Barangaroo demonstrates the economic power of Sydney and shows the obstacle to a supertall is not economics or population, it's government.
This is probably not going to change in Sydney any time soon, unless we manage to get a NSW Premier who fancies a supertall. Odds are Melbourne or Gold Coast will built one before City of Sydney or NSW government do something about it.
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Old October 2nd, 2012, 05:21 PM   #12
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barangaroo isnt a good spot for a 400m tower. i think a 300m-400m tower would be better off near bligh street zone
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Old October 2nd, 2012, 05:26 PM   #13
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I think it would look better in the skyline in the south near the Town Hall area. Then from the view on the harbour you would have this tall building rising behind the skyline and other icons of the city.
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Old October 2nd, 2012, 06:22 PM   #14
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E1 on the Gold Coast was 101 floors and 340m, but that didn't go ahead due to issues around the site and the of course the GFC.

So it's doable, but a lot of things have to be going right for it to happen, and with the economy the way it is now I don't think the ground is fertile enough for 100 floor towers for the forseeable future.
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Old October 2nd, 2012, 11:59 PM   #15
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Mornnb, Barangaroo I believe has set a good precedent for more bulky towers in Sydney.

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That's why the Empire State Building and Chrsler building etc is not only tall but has a lot of bulk
Cities like Sydney where land is very limited need to follow what New York has done. Increase the heights and increase the bulk.
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Old October 3rd, 2012, 01:08 AM   #16
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Mornnb, Barangaroo I believe has set a good precedent for more bulky towers in Sydney.



Cities like Sydney where land is very limited need to follow what New York has done. Increase the heights and increase the bulk.
Try telling that to Clover and her cronies
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Which city in Australia does anyone think is going to have the first 100 storey building built and why?
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Old October 30th, 2012, 10:26 AM   #18
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Where - Melbourne.
Why - Because I want one.
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Melbourne/Brisbane/Gold Coast. One of them
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Old October 30th, 2012, 10:47 AM   #20
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wont happen in melbourne unless the state government approves it, doylie and council are whining about a 200 metre plus tower as is
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