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Old October 2nd, 2018, 06:44 AM   #6361
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Letters are best than numbers, because we already have numbered freeways.
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Old October 2nd, 2018, 06:14 PM   #6362
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Actually, its important to switch since you need consistency, and with so many new lines coming soon, i think this is smart to do now. Anyways, it should be rather simple... Switch to letters and be done with it. Its not that hard. Or numbers... or animal names... Just pick one
Stick to colors. London has 14 colors and counting and as a practical matter they are what guides you from map to entrance to platform. The eye reads it immediately and you don't care about the ultimate destinations, letter, number or whatever.

But the main issue is why are there people paid real money who have been working on this for a decade now?
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Old October 3rd, 2018, 01:34 AM   #6363
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The colors will remain, but it becomes problematic when you have to go to shades because there are too many lines. Its going to be colors with letters or numbers in addition. Its not that hard, and its smart to do now before 10 other lines open up
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Stick to colors. London has 14 colors and counting and as a practical matter they are what guides you from map to entrance to platform. The eye reads it immediately and you don't care about the ultimate destinations, letter, number or whatever.

But the main issue is why are there people paid real money who have been working on this for a decade now?
The Consultant-Industrial Complex is too powerful!
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Old January 21st, 2019, 10:41 PM   #6365
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Anyone know what they mean by "extending services" here on the Blue Line?

http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/f...ntent=headline
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Old January 29th, 2019, 06:31 AM   #6366
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Union Station. We needed this "yesterday." I prefer the at grade design. Very southern california with a pinch of European thrown in.

https://urbanize.la/post/does-union-...2ce6-199386701
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Old February 7th, 2019, 03:44 AM   #6367
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Curbed has some thoughts on transit.

https://la.curbed.com/2019/2/1/18204...n-trains-buses

https://la.curbed.com/2019/2/5/18211...density-report

In the first Curbed admits that many people use public transit because they are too poor to use alternatives. It’s not like they WANT to use buses and trains; they HAVE to. And as soon as they have even minimal money they ditch it for private transportation (private cars or Uber).

Note the rather interesting implication: recessions are just what public transit needs to stimulate ridership. Further guess on my part: people prefer growing economies and private vehicles to the opposite.

This pairs nicely with the second article that basically says that the only way to get people to take transit is to make driving WAY, WAY worse than it is. That is, even LA driving is just flat-out preferred over transit unless you’re broke or maybe if snipers are poised at the freeway on-ramps. Or you can tax people until you kill the economy. Any of these work.

There was also an article saying that Metro might consider implementing connections from their stations to people’s home neighborhoods. This should probably be done as a subsidy of Uber/Lyft since the systems are already in place and fully automated. And, as Curbed now admits people don’t seem to want to take more public transit unless they have to.

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Old February 14th, 2019, 07:33 AM   #6368
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https://la.curbed.com/2019/2/13/1822...t-nation-hours

LA has moved down the list of congested cities and the reason is that it has a dispersed core (ala Paris among others). This allows for more even flows of automobiles and public transit than cities with everyone crammed into central spaces.

So let’s hear if for Downtown! But also for Hollywood, mid-Wilshire, BH, Century City, SaMo, Glendale, Pasadena, Inglewood, El Segundo, Universal, Woodland Hills and every other node. One at every rail station!
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Old February 21st, 2019, 04:06 AM   #6369
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Union Station terminal redesign. Looks like they've settled on the donut shape addition. Many seem to hate this version but I'll take anything at this stage. That station is such a gem but so underutilized. This will breathe life into that space.
https://urbanize.la/post/new-angles-...6e5e-199386701
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Old May 22nd, 2019, 03:58 AM   #6370
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https://www.latimes.com/opinion/liva...517-story.html

A study in pure nonsense. Metro ridership is down due to cars being faster and easier, bums and dopers on the subway; high levels of harassment, and just a general miserable experience of being next to people who may be sleeping but smell like they have been dead for a week.

So his ideas? Fix Metro by allowing payment at all doors and by replacing cloth seats with vinyl. These are not jokes! What world does this guy live in?

If you really want to fix it, you reduce routes (yes, that’s what businesses do when demand is down). This saves money and puts fewer empty buses on the streets jamming up the roads. You enforce rules on who can get on so you stop scaring away everyone who has any way of finding an alternative ride. You stop building lines to nowhere for nobody just because you have a right-of-way there. Work with Uber to add the last mile.
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Old May 23rd, 2019, 08:12 AM   #6371
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https://la.curbed.com/2019/5/22/1862...cation-transit

Another article from Curbed, this one arguing that much of the decline in MTA ridership is from people who have left LA for good. That is, the laws of economics and good sense enabled them to see that at their income levels they are FAR better off in Oregon, New Mexico, or Mexico than in LA riding Metro..

Notice how such previously suggested solutions as fixing seats, allowing entrance at all doors, better selection of routes and times, etc., are of ZERO value when it comes to attracting these people back. They’re GONE and their replacements are making more money and not riding the bus.

The article also implies that in higher income areas buses should be greatly reduced, especially where there is a rail alternative. So maybe we can stop seeing the endless parade of empty LA and SaMo buses driving along Wilshire and through much of the west side. Potential riders should move to areas where housing is cheaper and they will find adequate bus service at the same time. And Metro should save the capital costs, salaries and fuel.
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Old October 19th, 2019, 07:09 PM   #6372
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Blue line (now A line) update...

http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/b...nt=read%20more
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http://wavenewspapers.com/panelists-...entrification/

Metro catches heat for raising the cost of living along the Crenshaw Line.
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