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Old October 8th, 2019, 04:53 PM   #1281
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Yes. Indiana frequently has many miles of "construction" speed restrictions in areas where there is zero construction going on - in some cases there aren't even cones on the side of the road. All this does is teach people to ignore construction speed limits.
An example of this is a "periodic" (night and weekend) construction zone on NB465 (east side) starting at the I-70 interchange. Posted 45...not "when flashing", but all the time.

NO one drives 45 there. Ever. They'd get run over.

The law we need is like school zones...either ONLY when flashing, or ONLY when workers are present, or where there's a detour/lane shift.
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Old October 9th, 2019, 12:40 AM   #1282
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Johnson county Master plan includes 165 miles of trails

http://www.dailyjournal.net/2019/09/...trail_funding/
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Old October 11th, 2019, 02:56 PM   #1283
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I hope Riverlink loses in Federal court

https://www.wthr.com/article/indiana...iverlink-bills

Still wish they would add an option to pay upfront before crossing
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Old October 11th, 2019, 05:10 PM   #1284
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Still wish they would add an option to pay upfront before crossing
It exists. Get an EZ Pass. Works on the Louisville Bridges, Chicago Skyway, and all the attached Toll Roads east to Philadelphia and New York.
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Old October 11th, 2019, 07:16 PM   #1285
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It exists. Get an EZ Pass. Works on the Louisville Bridges, Chicago Skyway, and all the attached Toll Roads east to Philadelphia and New York.
Don't think I drive them enough to justify. When I go to Chicago...I take the Dan Ryan to the loop. I drive across the bridge into Kentucky 4-5 times a year for family. Not sure it justifies an EZ Pass.
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Old October 14th, 2019, 03:14 PM   #1286
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Don't think I drive them enough to justify. When I go to Chicago...I take the Dan Ryan to the loop. I drive across the bridge into Kentucky 4-5 times a year for family. Not sure it justifies an EZ Pass.

The EZ Pass transponder for the Kentucky bridges is free and the option that allows for travel on the rest of the eastern toll roads is only $15. And with a transponder, you pay less than you would without one.
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The EZ Pass transponder for the Kentucky bridges is free and the option that allows for travel on the rest of the eastern toll roads is only $15. And with a transponder, you pay less than you would without one.
For example, a trip across the PA Turnpike from New Stanton (I-70 junction) to Valley Forge (eastern junction to Philadelphia) is $35.90 cash and $25.70 with EZ Pass. Ours had a small fee (maybe $5) when we bought it in PA. It paid for itself the first use.

As caliboy points out, using an EZ Pass on the KY bridges makes the toll half price ($2.10 instead of $4.20). 5 round trips a year almost saves you more than enough to pay the $15 "use elsewhere" option.
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Wouldn't Johnson County be better served by making the individual communities more walkable with better land use and zoning? In other words, the focus should be intra-community trails and sidewalks rather than than inter-community, which seems to be the emphasis here.
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I think until transit becomes a viable option here. Trails are needed to the county seat because a larger portion of the county than u would think doesn't have a vehicle and the county seat is where official business is done. Plus these Trailways can later become transit corridors if needed. A lot of people down here are Uber/lift dependant. The young ones are well into their twenties and still no drivers licenses. My city already has a pretty robust trail system....not our fault the rest of the county wants to connect to it. The trails in Franklin are successful but we have been at it since Clinton or HW Bush was president
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Wouldn't Johnson County be better served by making the individual communities more walkable with better land use and zoning?


In Johnson County, any regulation (zoning or otherwise) is suspected of promoting socialism.

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Yes, but most of Johnson County is MAGA country: acreage, big SUVs, guns, and Trump. (Fun fact: Ray Skillman lives on big acreage in Johnson County. The report of semiautomatic gunfire attests to the nature of weekend fun in that part of the county.)
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Oh. Geez can u quit trash talking the county I love. Thanks.
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Oh. Geez can u quit trash talking the county I love. Thanks.
Look, I live here too. It's not pretty but it's true.

Even after the Franklin groundwater debacle the county still doesn't have a drinking water protection ordinance because the commissioners are afraid of putting a damper on development/restricting property rights.
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In Johnson County, any regulation (zoning or otherwise) is suspected of promoting socialism.



Yes, but most of Johnson County is MAGA country: acreage, big SUVs, guns, and Trump. (Fun fact: Ray Skillman lives on big acreage in Johnson County. The report of semiautomatic gunfire attests to the nature of weekend fun in that part of the county.)
My parents used to live adjacent to Skillman's estate. Their house was on a bit of a hill so we could enjoy Skillman's pond and manicured grounds for a fraction of the price. I don't recall automatic weaponry in the 90s/early 2000s, though.
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My parents used to live adjacent to Skillman's estate. Their house was on a bit of a hill so we could enjoy Skillman's pond and manicured grounds for a fraction of the price.
Willow Lakes or Hunter's Pointe? Not exactly the low-rent district.

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I don't recall automatic weaponry in the 90s/early 2000s, though.
I usually hear it when I'm out working in the yard on weekends.

Don of Don's guns died a couple years back...one of Skillman's kids was his neighbor. Maybe bought his personal collection?

I guess the auto weapons fire could be coming from the farm directly west of Skillman, but that's the only other parcel big enough for it to be done safely. Skillman also hived off 10 acres of his estate for one of his dealer partners. (He has co-owners of several of his dealerships.)
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Willow Lakes or Hunter's Pointe? Not exactly the low-rent district.



I usually hear it when I'm out working in the yard on weekends.

Don of Don's guns died a couple years back...one of Skillman's kids was his neighbor. Maybe bought his personal collection?

I guess the auto weapons fire could be coming from the farm directly west of Skillman, but that's the only other parcel big enough for it to be done safely. Skillman also hived off 10 acres of his estate for one of his dealer partners. (He has co-owners of several of his dealerships.)
The smallest house in Willow Lakes. By no means low rent, but their mortgage payment probably was less than Skillman's weekly mowing budget. That's what is amazing about Skillman's property: it's not just big, but it's actually manicured lawn from Stone's Crossing to half a mile back from the road.
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Look, I live here too. It's not pretty but it's true.

Even after the Franklin groundwater debacle the county still doesn't have a drinking water protection ordinance because the commissioners are afraid of putting a damper on development/restricting property rights.
I have met numerous residents from the city of Indianapolis who show up to Franklin EPA meetings so they can get information. They all state "we have the same problem in my neighborhood and nobody is doing anything and there are no resources available." Thanks to some diligent mom's and citizens and a forward thinking mayor, Franklin has become one of the most environmentally progressive cities in the state. My mayor does more about our environmental problems than the mayor of Bloomington does. And Bloomington is one of the most polluted cities in the state. Don't paint with such a broad brush. Proud of what my city has accomplished in dealing with a widespread problem that likely touches almost every county in the state. We are the ones who are do something about it.
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I have met numerous residents from the city of Indianapolis who show up to Franklin EPA meetings so they can get information. They all state "we have the same problem in my neighborhood and nobody is doing anything and there are no resources available." Thanks to some diligent mom's and citizens and a forward thinking mayor, Franklin has become one of the most environmentally progressive cities in the state. My mayor does more about our environmental problems than the mayor of Bloomington does. And Bloomington is one of the most polluted cities in the state. Don't paint with such a broad brush. Proud of what my city has accomplished in dealing with a widespread problem that likely touches almost every county in the state. We are the ones who are do something about it.
Well, not exactly. They're late to the party.

Indianapolis has had a local groundwater protection program for public drinking water supplies for 25 years now, since Mayor Goldsmith. It includes a zoning ordinance, a non-profit education group, and recently, a health code section that regulates operations where chemicals are stored, handled, or used in wellfield protection areas.

See www.mcwec.org for more information.

Elkhart and St. Joe County faced the issue even earlier.

Johnson County water utility, zoning and health folks look to Indianapolis-Marion County as a model and for guidance.
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In the county that's putting prisoners on top of one of the biggest biohazard sites in state history?Franklins issue isn't drinking water.....thanks to a local news reporter for putting that misinformation into people's head. Tce and pce weren't even looked at until the 1990s-2000s. Vaporization wasn't recognized as an issue until 15 years ago. We are actually ahead of the game when it comes to tce and pce. Any place with a long history of industrialization has this issue. The only reason the pollution problems in Johnson county are being highlighted is because they're being looked into. Columbus and Shelbyville are guaranteed to have the same issues. The east side is rampant with pollution issues similar to those of Franklin and they aren't being addressed at a large scale nor do they have the same media or EPA attention
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