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Old August 10th, 2005, 11:03 AM   #1
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ISTANA TYERSALL | Singapore


A palace built by the Sultan of Johor (not sure which). The 1st istana was built in 1890s and destroyed in 1905....

Any comments about it, the design?
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Old August 10th, 2005, 04:07 PM   #2
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a few questions.. where is this (i mean sin or jb?) y was the first istana destroyed?

the design probably looks grand during its heydays.. but now it looks spooky la.
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Old August 10th, 2005, 04:19 PM   #3
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Singapore, beside Botanic Gardens. Only a 5mins drive from Orchard Road.

It looks even more scary now..
The estate had since overgrown. The palace in a dilapidated state. But recently the estate is being cleared filled with soil....


Can anyone tell when it was built?
It looks kinda modern-ish...
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Old August 10th, 2005, 04:23 PM   #4
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The original Istana built on the site by Sultan Abu Bakar was destroyed by fire. Electrical problem.
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Old August 10th, 2005, 04:58 PM   #5
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About the origins of the estate, and the old Tyersall Istana:

"In March 1857, Boustead and Co. advertised for sale, Tyersall, William Napier’s estate and house in the Tanglin area which covered sixty-seven acres of land.William Napier retired from the East in 1857 after a distinguished career. Napier Road is named after him and the road led to his house and his estate, Tyersall, which was built in 1854 and later replaced by New Tyersall (or Istana Tyersall), the Sultan Abu Bakar of Johor’'s (1831-1895) palatial Singapore residence.

Sometime in 1860, the property was purchased by Sultan Abu Bakar of Johor, grandson of Temenggung Abdul Rahman who had negotiated with Raffles the Singapore in 1819. Napier’s house was demolished to make way for the construction of New Tyersall in 1890.

The house was completed in 1892, and the Sultan held such a grand housewarming reception that the Singapore Free Press provided details of the architecture and fittings of the house. The rectangular building measured 210 feet long by 174 feet deep, was in the “Corinthian style of architecture… with a red tiled roof” and a seventy-feet high tower in the center topped by the Sultan’s symbolic star and crescent.

Among its key features were a spacious projected carriage porch, a grand staircase with ornamental iron balustrades, a grand reception room, a ball room, a billiard room -- and it was fitted with electric light. The installation of electricity was hailed by the Free Press as indicative of an improvement of “domestic civilization, and a marked step in the industrial progress of the Colony.” Interior-wise, the fanlights were Arabsque in design, the wood used was teak and ironwood and the building had altogether 420 doors.

New Tyersall, according to Lee Kip Lin, architect and author of The Singapore House, was one of the grandest homes built in the Victorian Eclectic idiom, combining not only gothic and classical motifs, but also some Indo-Saracenic elements into the design. In his welcoming speech, Sultan Abu Bakar announced the plans for the house had been approved by his late wife, the Sultana, and executed by the Malay architect, Datoh Yayah. Typically Singaporean, New Tyersall had a cosmopolitan character. The iron-work had been carried out mainly by the local engineering firm of Howarth Erskine,74 and some portion of it by H.C. Hogan, the contractor was Mr. Wong Ah Fook from Johore, and the upholstery was provided by John Little and Co., the “finest Store East of Suez.” Once home to drag hunts until the sultry weather outdid the imported English hounds, New Tyersall was destroyed by a fire reported at 2:45 am on September 10th, 1905. The cause of the fire was faulty electrical wiring."
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Old August 10th, 2005, 06:24 PM   #6
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The style of the columns which hold up the porch might give the clue of its date. They look strangely familiar but I can’t recall which other buildings had similar porches. Just a guess, but could it be as late as the 50s?
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Old August 11th, 2005, 10:15 AM   #7
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Some architectural details


Ornamental ventilation holes.




^These things were found inside the palace, beside the porch entrance.


^Second floor, looking towards grand staircase.

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I was checking some books and there was a picture of the Istana. It’s labeled as “Woodneuk, Singapore” under the heading of ‘Palaces of the Sultan’. But I think its much earlier than the 50’s since the publication itself was in 1939.
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Anymore info???
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Quote:
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Anymore info???
Not at the moment la. You could always try the archives at Singapore or JB.
Btw, the interior looks good…is it being preserved/ rehabilitated?
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Old August 11th, 2005, 11:28 AM   #11
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I searched Sg's National Archives portal. All it brings out are 'older' pics from the 1980s.

I remember seeing a 'restricted area' signboard manyy years ago.


Sadly I don't think it is preserved...
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Old August 12th, 2005, 09:09 AM   #12
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Anyone out there?
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Old August 12th, 2005, 05:03 PM   #13
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haven't heard about it.

it looks like a bungalow. too bad it is not restored
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that palace reminds me the famous old palace in johor bahru (which is now converted into a museum) where the rooftop really is the same (its blue) and the architecture really has similarity...
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Ooo...

A clue to Tyersall's history?
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that palace reminds me the famous old palace in johor bahru (which is now converted into a museum) where the rooftop really is the same (its blue) and the architecture really has similarity...
Is it the Abu Bakar Royal Museum (the former Istana Besar)that you're referring to? That palace is actually very grand and elaborate and built way back in 1866! Apart from the roof, I don’t really see any similarities.

Pictures of the Istana Besar: ~Beautiful Anglo-Malay architecture~

From the net - http://people.zeelandnet.nl/lnoens/jb.htm


I took this picture some time back
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right, i was a kid back then when i visited the place...
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pardon if i missed stg here, but Tyersall refers to a person's name?
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has this got anything to do with the history of the bungalow's name? btw, the (Tyresall) hse (as it was formerly known esp during the Jap's Occupation) is still owned by the Sultan of Johore kan?

(20) Charles Richard Thornton (c1700)
(18) Unknown Thornton (19) John Thornton
Of Preston, Lancashire, gentleman, the only son and heir of John Thornton, late of Preston, esq. He died in 1738. Giles Thornton-Heysham succeeded to his estates as his cousin.

The earlier ancestry of Edmund Thornton's line may be derived from Jane's coat of arms, as displayed on her tomb at the church at St. Paul's Walden. I only have a fragment of the description from the UK archives. They were "a chevron . . . between three trefoils [a leaf with three pear-shaped lobes] slipt [with a stalk] . . ." The ellipses are in the original. I think what has been left out were the tinctures, the colors, that could not be discerned because the recorders were describing a stone carving. I think we can "assume" those colors were the standard for a Thornton. That is, argent for the shield, sable for the chevron, and proper, that is green, for the leaves.

The arms of the Thornton family of Yorkshire and Norfolk [of Some, co. Cambridge; Windham, co. Norfolk; and co. York; Birkin, co. York; Scarborough, co. York; Clapham, Surrey] were argent a sable chevron between three hawthorn trees proper. The use of the thorn trees, obviously a play on the Thornton name, make this what is called in heraldry a "canting coat." Other Thornton families of the region make variations on this original:

- Hawthorn bushes in place of trees and a trefoil slipped or [gold] on the chevron for the Thornton family of Tiersall [Tyresall, Tyersal], near Bradford, Yorkshire. See Thornton of Tiersall for a short descent.
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Old August 13th, 2005, 05:38 PM   #20
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I don't think so.... Tyersall was the name of Napier's house and estate grounds.

In the past, some houses of the rich used to have their own names. Like Fairyland, Mandalay, Bendemeer...

A few of such houses still exist here. Like Tilton, a mansion near Botanic Gardens a short distance from Tyersall Istana.

When the Abu Bakar built his first palace, he used the old name, 'Tyersall'. The new house was completed in 1892 but destroyed in 1905. The name was 'New Tyersall' or 'Istana Tyersall'....


As for this newer palace, I only heard that it was built in the 1930s and nothing else. Why was it abandoned?
It has a very strange style of design.
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