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Old September 19th, 2019, 01:15 PM   #7481
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CHooks to go top guy Mascarinas offerred the same salary for Gilas program. Same salary sa isang top rookie or franchise player ng PBA. Sino ang mag react PBA comm! I therefore conclude! Tama si Coach Tab!
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Well I definitely have to agree with Coach Tab's position. It's not an unreasonable condition to ask. It's only common sense that Coach Tab's focus if ever given the Gilas job should be to coach & mold Gilas into a contender and not have to deal with the side-show politics. The side-show politics should be handled by someone else in basketball operations other than the dang coach of the national team! Obviously this goes not only for Coach Tab but for who ever eventually gets hired to coach Gilas. No Coach no matter how talented will ever be successful in running our national team unless all this side-show politics among stake holders is set aside for the good of this Gilas national team. Everyone and I mean everyone needs to sacrifice and buy into the "SYSTEM" if this Gilas team will ever be successful in becoming true contenders someday instead of mere pretenders like they are today! Just my opinion only of course...
Uniting basketball stakeholders in the Philippines is a uphill climb, not a foreign coach job for sure but a dream and realization to get the best of the best / cream of the crop players for the national team. That's what Tab Baldwin is aiming before he step into the job once more...

Again like I said, easier said than done... Sad to hear but that's the truth, SMC group alone never cooperated 100% with SBP, they've vested interest as always and that includes to run the entire SBP in order for them to go full blast into a flag and country commitment. And going 100% in full swing will force also MVP to step down in the federation, that's the geopolitics there. Complex indeed, very Pinoy culture as always.

That is why hosting in 2023 is a roller coaster once more for sure. SMC has vast influence and they can manipulate everything, from pro league to collegiate to national team program. IMO the only chance for SBP to at least get their heart is to allowing SMC as the major sponsor, set aside MVP group and friends (Chooks to go). That's the strategic sacrifice to be made soon...
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CHooks to go top guy Mascarinas offerred the same salary for Gilas program. Same salary sa isang top rookie or franchise player ng PBA. Sino ang mag react PBA comm! I therefore conclude! Tama si Coach Tab!
Yes legal salary pwedeng kaya nya tapatan, pero not the SMC perks / package.

PBA maximum salary is Php450K a month technically for the franchise player, kaya ni Mascarinas yan, pero ang di nya kaya are those bundled perks tha SMC gave to their franchise players.

JunMar and Romeo receive that amount, but the bundled perks are much bigger than their salary. Sabi nga nila JMF is receiving brand new fortunner, allowances of different categories, tickets for vacation abroad every month aside from his salary... Sa simpleng expose nga ni Snow Badua JMF is receiving aroung P1.5M a month daw, same goes to Romeo and other key players. Yan ang reason kung bakit maraming players ang gustong maging players ng any team ng SMC group.
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Old September 20th, 2019, 11:46 AM   #7484
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MAY BAGO NANG COACH SI TIM CONE NAPILI PARA SA SEA GAMES...



Most likely si Brownlee na ang naturalized.
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Worry ko diyan gagawin na naman nyang triangle system, tapos kakapusin sa practice at familiarization.... Pwedeng sa mga lapses nyan take advantage ang Indonesia under Coach Toroman na gagamit ng sona.

Di uubra ang triangle vs sona e sa totoo lang, best example yung Centennial team nya sa Asian games 1998, nilamon ng buhay ng Korea tambak ng 20 points,
daming lapses dun, iwan na iwan yung shooter palagi pag nag screen ang mga Koreans.
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Old September 20th, 2019, 01:52 PM   #7486
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Denzel Bowles new natuaralized player for indonesia
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Old September 20th, 2019, 02:38 PM   #7487
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Worry ko diyan gagawin na naman nyang triangle system, tapos kakapusin sa practice at familiarization.... Pwedeng sa mga lapses nyan take advantage ang Indonesia under Coach Toroman na gagamit ng sona.

Di uubra ang triangle vs sona e sa totoo lang, best example yung Centennial team nya sa Asian games 1998, nilamon ng buhay ng Korea tambak ng 20 points,
daming lapses dun, iwan na iwan yung shooter palagi pag nag screen ang mga Koreans.
sir raj big disadvantage of the triangle offense is that the offense is perimeter oriented kung walang pure shooters --mas maganda nga sana DDO at swing offense of coach tab-- this offense is designed to create post up opportunities for every player -- at tsaka designed to get the ball to literally "swing" from one side of the court to the other and back again, dito matetesting -ung depensa unlike ung triangle mababasa n kaagad ng kalaban tama k sir raj ung ball movement ng korea kakainin si tim cone--high percentage shot pag high post triangle offense-- - failures of triangle offense have come from over-dribbling-- lack of ball movement-- and poor passing.
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Old September 20th, 2019, 02:45 PM   #7488
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phil jackson's triangle offense [chicago bulls ] is effective with players like guards pippen and jordan -- because they bring a quickness to the game that can result in mismatches-- through the constant movement of the 2 man game off the triangle and open shots from picks--
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Old September 20th, 2019, 04:00 PM   #7489
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sir raj big disadvantage of the triangle offense is that the offense is perimeter oriented kung walang pure shooters --mas maganda nga sana DDO at swing offense of coach tab-- this offense is designed to create post up opportunities for every player -- at tsaka designed to get the ball to literally "swing" from one side of the court to the other and back again, dito matetesting -ung depensa unlike ung triangle mababasa n kaagad ng kalaban tama k sir raj ung ball movement ng korea kakainin si tim cone--high percentage shot pag high post triangle offense-- - failures of triangle offense have come from over-dribbling-- lack of ball movement-- and poor passing.
Tama ka Sir Marma. Ang triangle kasi nabubuhay sa hero ball system, sa bulls may Michael Jordan sila, sa Lakers may Kobe dati... So sa malamang pag si Tim Cone iaasa nya kay Brownlee yung pagiging scorer nyan...

Heto isang lapses ng triangle vs sona, sa triangle paiikutin sa 3 players yung bola primarily, secondarily na lang yung 2 players pag di nag click yung rotation nila... Ngayon pag dinepensahan ng sona yan madali silang ma trap diyan kasi sa 3 players ang ikot ng bola, sa simpleng low post ng center nila bubulagain sila ng rotation ng defense ng sona, lalu yung mga picks at screen sabay may cutter na guard sa ilalim sa blind side palabas yari maaagawan ang center nyan kung mabagal pumasa. Assuming si JunMar gawin nyang center e hindi mabilis si JMF, prone sa steal yan.

Ganun din pag nabasa yung perimeter guy nila, double team sa taas the usual na ginagawa ng mga Euro sona, tapos ang may hawak ng bola maaagawan yan.

Nagiging effective lang ang triangle sa NBA or PRO dahil isolation / man to man ang labanan, so walang pick screens sa ilalim dahil matatawagan ka ng "illegal defense", at yan ang wala naman sa rule ng sona / FIBA. Sona pwede ka mag double team, magpatakbo ng cutter screen sa depensa sa ilalim...

Hayyyy ewan ko ba bat si Tim Cone ang pinili... buti sana kung core ng Ginebra o Alaska ang kukunin na familiar na sa triangle nya, e hindi e halo halo yung pool e. Mangyayari talaga nito hero ball lang yan.

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Haha ngayon pa ni-naturalize si Bowles kung kelan may edad na at mabagal na...

Ang aabangan natin yung American Indonesian na bago nilang player, yung nasa last part ng video, NCAA DIV 1 sa US yan at 6'8" mabilis at may galaw yata
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Mmm... Will Coach Tim Cone devote his time putting up the "system" for the national team? How about the PBA? Kasi pagnagkataon mahahati time ni Coach Tim Cone between 2 endeavors, coaching the national team and PBA... pangamba ko baka lang pag maraming commitment hindi naman magampanan ng mabuti parehong trabaho. System basketball takes a lot of time and practice to perfect. Eh pag madaming previous commitment, baka naman kulangin nanaman national team ng ensayo at hindi nanaman maging cohesive yung team... hay baka magbalik larong buko at hero ball nanaman tayo! Huwag naman sana.
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Haha ngayon pa ni-naturalize si Bowles kung kelan may edad na at mabagal na...

Ang aabangan natin yung American Indonesian na bago nilang player, yung nasa last part ng video, NCAA DIV 1 sa US yan at 6'8" mabilis at may galaw yata
sir raj wla png balita kay rocky padila ung indonesian 6'8" player hehehe
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sir raj to lng ang alam k n 16 y/o 6'8" derrick michael mglalaro ata s 16 u seaba









member yang si derick michael s indonesian squad that competed in the 2019 asean school basketbal tournament--phil squad was represented by NU bullpups as they defeated indonesia twice 87-47 [prelims ] and in the finals 100-51-- as carl tamayo red hot w/ 20 points in that game in the prelims--

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Wala na ang triangle ngayon. Dominated na ng mga guards ang NBA. Steve kerr nga hindi niya namana ang play ni Jackson. Mas namana niya ang diskarte ni Pop. Bigs can now shoot from the arc. Hindi na era ni howard. Ngayon kailangan 3-5 na ang dapat kaya mong gawin.
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AJ EDU's younger brother --FEMI EDU may passport na [ b4 16 y/o--]
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Wala na ang triangle ngayon. Dominated na ng mga guards ang NBA. Steve kerr nga hindi niya namana ang play ni Jackson. Mas namana niya ang diskarte ni Pop. Bigs can now shoot from the arc. Hindi na era ni howard. Ngayon kailangan 3-5 na ang dapat kaya mong gawin.
obsolete n ang triangle offense hehe--NBA is ever changing--now point guards need to score -- SG need to be playmakers--but what about nba bigs-- shooting is a big plus for any big man nowadays--nowadays we see the passing ability of big men used more effectively-- big men in the high post and run dribble handoffs or backdoor cuts around those guys--yan ang kelangan an all around big--nikola jokic, the best passing big in the NBA run the offense from the top of the key--as for KD an absolute assassin hehe-- from all points of the floor--and has to catch and shoot from anywhere on the floor that makes him so deadly too--
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ang triangle offense kc relies on a two-guard front--means that at almost all times there are 2 players lifted out high-- protecting against possible transition opportunities going the other way--un lng pag nsa opensa there is only 1 player in a favorable defensive position kya dpat mabilis ung switching defense--
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grand slam- seeking smb pang pba lng hehe tambak n against liaoning flying leopards s terriffic 12 basketball tournament lamang n liaoning ng 21 pts s 1st half--
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as usual phil basketball 1 on 1 plays no movement pti si coach leo austria nalilito n yan ang PBA ni pareng willy 10 days practice dinomina n ng liaoning ang smb hehehe
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its time for chooks to go-- to sponsor/ full time national team for a european friendly tournaments kung aasa k lng s PBA walang mangyari always massacre resulta--hehe

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