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Old Yesterday, 08:15 AM   #881
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Old Yesterday, 08:32 AM   #883
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Actually di siya normal... sobrang dami nung Chinese workers compared sa Pinoy. Nung nagsite inspection kami, ultimo yung paglapat ng simento ay Chinese din gumagawa na kaya naman gawin ng Pinoy.
Do you have numbers to support your claim?
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Actually di siya normal... sobrang dami nung Chinese workers compared sa Pinoy. Nung nagsite inspection kami, ultimo yung paglapat ng simento ay Chinese din gumagawa na kaya naman gawin ng Pinoy.
Siguradong may mali sa Filipino workers kaya puro chinese ang worker nila. Labor cost ng Chinese is more expensive than Pinoy. Bakit gagastos ang contractor ng mas mahal na labor cost kung pwede naman sa Pinoy.

Ano kaya advantage ng mga Chinese na yan sa mga Pinoy?
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Siguradong may mali sa Filipino workers kaya puro chinese ang worker nila. Labor cost ng Chinese is more expensive than Pinoy. Bakit gagastos ang contractor ng mas mahal na labor cost kung pwede naman sa Pinoy.

Ano kaya advantage ng mga Chinese na yan sa mga Pinoy?
Short answer: communication of work orders--> paano mo gawing efficient ang trabaho kung hindi kayo nagkaintindihan sa workers mo? The managerial staffs most probably are "Chinese". Kulang nga tayo sa "reading comprehension", verbal pa kaya!
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Do you have numbers to support your claim?
You can go to GN Powerplant in Bataan to see with yourself. The IT people there told us that the ratio of Chinese workers to Pinoy workers are big.

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Siguradong may mali sa Filipino workers kaya puro chinese ang worker nila. Labor cost ng Chinese is more expensive than Pinoy. Bakit gagastos ang contractor ng mas mahal na labor cost kung pwede naman sa Pinoy.

Ano kaya advantage ng mga Chinese na yan sa mga Pinoy?
Sakit na yan ng mga Chinese firm yung maghire din ng kalahi lalo na sa construction. Isang factor nga dyan yung communication. Ang problema naman kasi dito sa atin hindi klaro yung policies regarding sa limit ng foreign workers sa loob ng isang company.
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Siguradong may mali sa Filipino workers kaya puro chinese ang worker nila. Labor cost ng Chinese is more expensive than Pinoy. Bakit gagastos ang contractor ng mas mahal na labor cost kung pwede naman sa Pinoy.

Ano kaya advantage ng mga Chinese na yan sa mga Pinoy?
No offense sa mga triggered "proud pinoys" dyan. But Chinese workers are generally more efficient at mas mabilis kumilos. The only disadvantage is that they are prone to making shortcuts and compromises, but as long as you check their work(especially once finished) wala kang problema at mabilis din matapos ang trabaho.

But it's still wrong to hire Chinese workers because the law actually prohibits that and the law should be respected.
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A friend who was until recently very active in building low-cost housing developments replied: “Yes. It’s both. I noticed that engineers and skilled labor, seasoned workers are getting fewer and demanding much higher wages; we are forced to hire and train even those with only a year or just months of experience. And there’s no guarantee that after training, they become productive immediately.”

So I asked if imported Chinese labor can compete on cost. Apparently, yes. “That’s the thing too, Boo. Chinese skilled labor can cost less even with board and lodging because they work faster and more efficiently.”

I was also told that: “someone who hired a team of Chinese workers was happy because the Chinese team did in 30 days what his local team would do in four months. So I guess, in that sense, they are cheaper.”

One other FB friend explained: “The main problem we have with our workers, other than mismatch in skills and training, is productivity and efficiency. We tried doing our electronics manufacturing here before in parallel with our foreign operations and we found that what one worker there can do is matched by three to four workers here in productivity.”

“So I asked if the problem is lack of training or culture. I was sorry to read the answer: “It is more the culture, Boo. In our foreign operations, workers are focused and without much supervision, we do not observe much chatter during working hours.”
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Short answer: communication of work orders--> paano mo gawing efficient ang trabaho kung hindi kayo nagkaintindihan sa workers mo? The managerial staffs most probably are "Chinese". Kulang nga tayo sa "reading comprehension", verbal pa kaya!
Possible but not the main reason I guess. Kasi kung communication lang why they still hire filipinos (roughly 1/3 are filipinos in chinese dominated construction sites) kung hindi sila magkakaintindihan. Dapat lahat nalang chinese.
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When will the official numbers on GDP growth be released?
PSA revises downward third-quarter economic growth to 6% from 6.2%
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The Philippine Statistics Authority on Wednesday revised downward the third-quarter gross domestic product growth to 6 percent from the previous estimate of 6.2 percent, taking into account the changes in the contribution of other services, construction, transport, storage, and communication.
The revision―done a day before the release of the fourth-quarter and 2019 GDP today―brought economic growth in the first three quarters to 5.7 percent, down from the previous 5.8 percent. Economists said with the latest adjustment, the government’s growth target of at least 6 percent for 2019 could not be met.
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Possible but not the main reason I guess. Kasi kung communication lang why they still hire filipinos (roughly 1/3 are filipinos in chinese dominated construction sites) kung hindi sila magkakaintindihan. Dapat lahat nalang chinese.
It is a normal construction procedure, IMO. A contractor is given a wide room to wiggle around just so a certain project gets done: with the least cost, with the best workmanship, with the best materials, and within the project target date!

Example, Pinoys won a contract to do the Hongkong International airport project's earth moving and site development--> the crew involved came from the Philippines! Do you think there were no bulldozer/loader/crane operators that were Chinese who could do it there?

If you insist on having a heterogeneous construction group, you must be a good planner and a better project manager to do it.
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