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Old August 23rd, 2010, 07:54 PM   #1
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OAKLAND - New Oakland Athletics Ballpark (35,000)


Oakland Athletics

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1910, 1911, 1913, 1929, 1930,
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 11:46 PM   #2
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Love that design more than the previous brick design. Seems to flow right into its surroundings and the infield seats look classic and retain their slight nod to Fenway. Always like to see something a little different. Would love to see more angles.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 12:48 AM   #3
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Very interesting, looks like they are trying to bring the budget down, maybe private financing? Looks like the upper deck's columns coming down in the lower bowl which is a little alarming, and that is a lot of outfield seating, but other than that it looks good and quite unique, and looks like they could keep the pricetag well under $400 million. I wonder how they are planning to handle club seats, can't see any obvious areas, though the area right behind home plate could have some that are obscured by the sign at the moment. Still one expects (even if we don't desire) to see a seperate club concourse somewhere with at least a couple thousand seats.

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Wait is this back on the map? Story?
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Old August 24th, 2010, 06:19 AM   #5
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New site, new renderings at any rate, looks to be in town somewhere which makes more sense to me, maybe San Jose can support a team financially if they can get the territorial rights.
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New site, new renderings at any rate, looks to be in town somewhere which makes more sense to me, maybe San Jose can support a team financially if they can get the territorial rights.
San Jose has a greater population than both Oakland or San Francisco. In terms of MLB territorial rights, San Jose belongs to the Giants. That issue must be resolved. In addition:

1-The city still must approve this project. At first the vote was to take place in November, but MLB asked them to delay the vote and will pay for part of the cost of a separate, later ballot measure.

2-AT&T owns land within the footprint which the city needs to make the A's project a reality and they are currently refusing to sell.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 07:59 AM   #7
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I noticed the proposed site is right next to the hockey arena. Would they take on the San Jose name? It would be kind of strange to have the "San Jose Sharks" and "Oakland A's" playing directly across the street from one another.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 11:36 PM   #9
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Liking it more and more, feels pretty unique despite the brick/kelly green thing going on, really seems to fit its site pretty well too. Interesting little box looking thing going on in right field.

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Old August 24th, 2010, 11:54 PM   #10
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At least in this stadium, green seats actually make sense. <cough>Baltimore<cough>
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Are the A's moving to AAA? That stadium does not give off a "major league" vibe
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New site, new renderings at any rate, looks to be in town somewhere which makes more sense to me, maybe San Jose can support a team financially if they can get the territorial rights.
Fremont, California? This proposal was struck down.
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Old August 25th, 2010, 03:55 AM   #13
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No this is a new one in San Jose, right next to the HP Pavilion, read the header.
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Are the A's moving to AAA? That stadium does not give off a "major league" vibe
Agreed, 32k seems too small for a major league franchise.
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Old August 25th, 2010, 05:19 AM   #15
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Too small and that many outfield seats will make this a pretty poor place for an alarmingly high percentage of people there to watch the game. It also looks like the supports for the second level will cause some obstructed seats, but that could just be in the concourse. It's hard to tell from the renderings.
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Agreed, 32k seems too small for a major league franchise.
32 k is more than enough for a small market team. For example, the Pittsburgh Pirates have been getting about 20,000 people per game for the last few years yet made have made a very healthy profit in those years, taking in a $15 million in profit in 2007, $14 million in 2008 and $5 million in 2009.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100823/...rates_finances
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Old August 25th, 2010, 06:14 AM   #17
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Site adjacent to downtown San Jose

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Old August 25th, 2010, 10:03 AM   #18
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Would they really look at putting in support pillars for the upper tier? Surely that's taking the retro elements of old ball parks a bit too excessively leading to restricted views from the seats underneath the overhang?
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Old August 25th, 2010, 05:49 PM   #19
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A lot of the complaints seem to be complaints at existing ballparks. I know they could simply cantilever the upper deck or move it back, but this setup seems to work ok where it exists, and gets the upper deck much closer. The way the renderings are, they are unnecessary, but we shall see. More like The small capacity = see Fenway and is probably more of a correct size for many teams. The outfield seats are perfect. There really isn't that many and the upper deck isn't too close. Seems that recently designers want to cut off the view of part of the field from the outfield. Not having that problem here.
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Old August 25th, 2010, 07:59 PM   #20
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It would have to be a money issue, cantilevering a stand out is pretty expensive, and they already showing a full span cantilever in the outfield, so it may be a dollars and cents issue. The outfield stand though, I would say get a long ways back, looks like 30 rows behind the deeper side of the outfield, we are talking 430'-480' from the plate minimum to the back row out there. Imagine if that second level weren't overhung though, it would be like the Metrodome's baseball configuration, now there were some terrible outfield seats.
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