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Old August 24th, 2019, 07:33 PM   #4721
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What's the likelihood that the tram could be extended around Wolvo ring road or past the Royal London pub area to Molineux and beyond?
Considering that there's almost a million people in the black country, the train & tram service is woeful. If you look at the density of stations in London, then again all British urban areas are poorly provided for.
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Old August 24th, 2019, 08:04 PM   #4722
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we have this very loose idea:

https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=2072157

That gets the tram as far as Beatties; from there it would be a short leap to get to the Molineux via Waterloo Road (more likely than the Stafford Road due to the steep hill that side of Molineux).
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Old August 24th, 2019, 08:22 PM   #4723
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If itís your opinion, then so be it. I respect your work on this forum and was disappointed to read it. I thought there was a bit of regional solidarity on here. I make no claims for Wolverhamptonís greatness, but it deserves better than that. Itís a decent place with some good things coming through the pipeline.
I agree with you here Wodensfelder, I do believe the cities in the region should support each other. Each city has its own issues that they are working on but they all have their strengths as well.
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Old August 24th, 2019, 08:52 PM   #4724
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Sorry you guys feel that way, maybe it was a little harsh.

I just hope the opening of the new train station really pushes other developments to look into Wolverhampton. It's a shame the Tesco Extra store fell through as we saw quite an impact of Tesco opening stores in other regional areas such as Dudley, West Bromwich and Walsall.

The media don't really help Wolves situation either.
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Old August 24th, 2019, 09:39 PM   #4725
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Well I saw some lovely Georgian and early Victorian buildings walking round the city centre last year. It's got some sh*te for sure but most English cities do. Lots of pubs with character and plenty of independent retailers. Very underrated city
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Old August 24th, 2019, 10:07 PM   #4726
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Seems to be a Midlands thing. And mainly people in the 55 to 75 age range. Maybe it is a educational issue.

Older people yes, but no way just a Midlands thing.
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Old August 24th, 2019, 11:03 PM   #4727
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Birmingham is much bigger so it would be unfair to compare both Cities.
This really is case in point for the growing nationalism and anti-Birmingham tendencies being exhibited in the Black Country.

And that's a truly lame justification. To suggest that its unfair to compare the cities, but not unfair to claim one is awful with no justification what so ever.
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Old August 25th, 2019, 12:08 PM   #4728
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utterly backwards.


There was something about that on here a while back, itís a little misleading to suggest Wolverhampton residents donít want investment because of that poll, itís just that the proposals for a new station to serve Tettenhall really werenít appropriate due to where the current line runs, or even needed.

For a start, the line doesnít run through Tettenhall, youíd be looking at either Pendeford or Aldersley as the nearest station possibilities, and Aldersley is already crippled with traffic by local roads, a station would grind it to a standstill, whilst the Pendeford (Barnhurst Lane) possibility wouldnít really offer any advantage over driving into Wolverhampton given the local roads and distance. Neither site could have offered much parking or would be convenient for anyone other than the immediate surrounding residents.

The old line where Tettenhall station is was closed down years ago because it took longer to get into town than by bus, and that in the 1930ís. The busses in Wolverhampton, particularly the west side of the city, are reasonably efficient and quick compared to other parts of the West Midlands, so a metro route would be a vanity project that wouldnít offer much benefit. Other parts of the city and surrounding area would be far better served with a metro route (i54, Featherstone, Wombourne), or train station (Bushbury, Parkfields).
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Old September 11th, 2019, 07:22 PM   #4729
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Old September 17th, 2019, 09:19 PM   #4730
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With the delay of HS2 to 2028-2031 for the London to Birmingham line, I have been wondering about the knock on effect of this on the east side tram extension. Originally I remember seeing that the east side tram line was going to be delayed due to its integration with HS2 but now with HS2 delayed could they just build the tram line first and get it done before the actual construction of Curzon street? I don't know what would be possible and how it would be done but I am just wondering what will happen now with HS2 delayed, could it mean even longer for the east side tram extension or could it actually be a helpful delay in this respect?

I'm interested in hearing people's thoughts on this!
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Old September 17th, 2019, 11:58 PM   #4731
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I doubt it will do anything because the issue is still HS2 allowing MMA onto the land. Even with the delay that issue is still there as HS2 set up exclusion zones and took control more that 5 years ago I think.
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Old September 18th, 2019, 08:15 AM   #4732
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So the extension to the airport won't be open until the early 2030s...
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Old September 18th, 2019, 12:48 PM   #4733
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They are going to have to do something to get the east side tram operational and fit in HS2 afterwards, the tram can’t wait another ten years. A tram connection to moor street station is needed now as well as the he link to Digbeth high street. I’d build this link now and then alter the tram route if needed once Curzon Street is operational which sounds like a decade away.

This country dithers and pithers around everything, HS2 and Brexit being prime examples. By the time we get to build most of our infrastructure it’s already out of date, can’t cope with the current demand, or no longer required.
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Old September 18th, 2019, 02:58 PM   #4734
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Hs2 may be delayed but that doesn’t necessarily mean the metro will have to wait till the opening date it’s likely hs2 can hand over part of the site for the metro works to carry on through
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Old September 18th, 2019, 07:20 PM   #4735
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Its planned to run through and underneath the station, not going to be easy.
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Old September 18th, 2019, 07:30 PM   #4736
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The line may be delayed but not necessarily the station building it could be built beforehand with track work ongoing whilst the metro etc. Is extended through the site
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Old September 18th, 2019, 07:56 PM   #4737
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Luckily it shouldn't be too long before we know either way about HS2. I would hope that Andy Street is really pressuring an outcome of the review to enable work to start on East Birmingham extension. Especially as it's coming up to election season!
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Old September 21st, 2019, 01:21 AM   #4738
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With the delay of HS2 to 2028-2031 for the London to Birmingham line, I have been wondering about the knock on effect of this on the east side tram extension. Originally I remember seeing that the east side tram line was going to be delayed due to its integration with HS2 but now with HS2 delayed could they just build the tram line first and get it done before the actual construction of Curzon street? I don't know what would be possible and how it would be done but I am just wondering what will happen now with HS2 delayed, could it mean even longer for the east side tram extension or could it actually be a helpful delay in this respect?

I'm interested in hearing people's thoughts on this!

If there is going to be a significant delay in building the station, I would think it logical to allow MMA access to build the extension, then when HS2 needs to have the site back, replace the metro services with a Sprint service down to Digbeth. Then when the station is finished reassemble the short section under the station and reopen the line, logical to me, but I'm sure there's loads of reasons it can't happen..
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Maybe the route could be diverted to allow the extension to carry on without being in hs2 way then add a spur/loop from its diversion to cover hs2 when able to do so?
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Old September 21st, 2019, 01:40 PM   #4740
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I was think why canít they start where the track will come after HS2 there no objections to that, they could be on the way through Digbeth quite easily, they can just connect the track once they ge the go ahead on the Hs2 side aleast then they arenít waisting anytime
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