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Old April 15th, 2010, 04:25 AM   #1
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California the best?

Is California the best place to live in North america? I am not talking about LA because I know LA is really crowded, but what about outside LA?

Great all year around weather, great beaches, culture, landscapes, jobs etc... and so much more

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Old April 15th, 2010, 04:42 AM   #2
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In North America it seems to be Vancouver according to the Economist and Mercer. This seems to be the case for Vancouver as far as I can see for most of the 2000s. I don't doubt that California isn't a great place to live, it definitely as better weather and beaches.

Top cities by region (Mercer 2009)

North America
Rank Overall Ranking City Quality of living
1 3 Vancouver 107.7
2 15 Toronto 105.4
3 18 Ottawa 104.8
4 22 Montreal 104.3
5 24 Calgary 103.6

The Economist's World's Most Livable Cities 2010
City Country Rating
1 Vancouver Canada 98.0
2 Vienna Austria 97.9
3 Melbourne Australia 97.5
4 Toronto Canada 97.2
5 Calgary Canada 96.6

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's...livable_cities

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^ been to vancouver, its a great city but not for me, its raining there 90% of time and cool, the scenry was amazing though, many things were similar to northern parts of califorinia
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Old April 15th, 2010, 05:04 AM   #4
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I think that depends on what season you come in. Fall/Winter is the rainiest then once spring/summer kicks in you can have months without rain. But definitely very rainy once november hits =/
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Old April 15th, 2010, 09:17 AM   #5
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I don't know why SD is not even mentioned in that list, if we included the 100ths of small cities in California, then probably we would be on top of that list. Only LA and SF were mentioned.
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Old April 15th, 2010, 05:39 PM   #6
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I don't know why SD is not even mentioned in that list, if we included the 100ths of small cities in California, then probably we would be on top of that list. Only LA and SF were mentioned.
I would take San Diego over LA or SF any day.
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Old April 15th, 2010, 09:40 PM   #7
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I think cost of living has got to be taken into account too. That is one of the reasons why I think many California cities aren't such great places to live. Nice to visit, but it seems like it would be really difficult to get by on an average salary. Many more affordable cities have plenty of nice attractions and are very livable as well --- plus, you can save money and take trips to lots of great cities all over the place. Of the three large California cities I've visited, I've liked them best in this order: San Francisco, Los Angeles, then San Diego. They're definitely all nice -- but I also enjoy visiting great cities like Boston, New York, Chicago, Miami, Philadelphia, etc.
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Old April 15th, 2010, 10:27 PM   #8
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The west coast still has a hot real estate market which makes the cost of living very high.

What $1,180,000 gets you in Vancouver $1 CAD = $0.9986 USD

If your looking for a house otherwise there are plenty of condos under 1 million.

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Vancouver is sweet. Its not the best though. In all honesty it is up to ones preferences. I love San Diego, but I could see myself other places (like Vancouver actually).

As for California we aren't the best in a lot of things. If I was a growing business for instance, California would be the last place to call home...
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Old April 17th, 2010, 08:39 AM   #10
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Vancouver was awesome. Just amazing surroundings. To me I would agree that California is the best but I am totally biased. I just love it for the diversity. Thats how I would sum it up. Diversity of people and cultures, diversity of cities, but to me most important, diversity of geography and climate. We have every kind of landscape you can think of minus tropical. We got beaches, fertile valleys, rolling hills, deserts, tall mountains, glaciers, volcanoes, all kinds of forests from dry to temperate and the highest and lowest points in the contiguous US. Not much missing.
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 06:57 PM   #11
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Is California the best?

The official answer is yes.

We rule. End of story.
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Old May 12th, 2010, 11:03 PM   #13
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Correct; their may be subtle differences in the hoods in Paradise, but there's only 1 Paradise: California.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 08:36 AM   #14
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I don't know if LA feels 'crowded'. It's no New York City. And hey, a lot of people like crowded, especially around these forums.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 10:47 AM   #15
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Is California the best?

The official answer is yes.

We rule. End of story.
This is pretty much the truth
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Old May 13th, 2010, 06:49 PM   #16
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I grew up on the east coast, been through and visited 31 states so far and lived in California the past 10 years. From what I've experienced and seen so far, California is the best state. All states have there pluses and minuses, but there's so much more see and do in Cal. than any other state.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 07:03 PM   #17
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Being a native Floridian, I always thought California was one of the best states in the union. Don't get me wrong, Florida is nice, but the summer humidity is unbearable along with hurricane threats every year as well as a lack of mountains.
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While not American, I've seen a fair share of the US myself, the western states and Florida in particular. It's hard not to be biased as I absolutely love Colorado, but if I'm to pick places outside of that state, I would go with places like these..

Corona del Mar, Huntington Beach, Laguna Beach in OC, Solvang in Santa Barbara county (hey, I'm Danish lol), San Diego and even Tijuana (though not US), Fresno, SF, Orlando, Miami, Key West.

As for all those surveys and what not, who gives a damn? I've seen my own city (Copenhagen) top most of them. It's not like it changes much.

Anyway, California is a great place, still, there is no such place as the greatest, though some obviously have a lot more to offer - California being one.
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Old May 14th, 2010, 03:47 AM   #19
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I don't know if LA feels 'crowded'. It's no New York City. And hey, a lot of people like crowded, especially around these forums.
naw, this is one of the most anti-density forums on the net
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In North America it seems to be Vancouver according to the Economist and Mercer. This seems to be the case for Vancouver as far as I can see for most of the 2000s. I don't doubt that California isn't a great place to live, it definitely as better weather and beaches.

Top cities by region (Mercer 2009)

North America
Rank Overall Ranking City Quality of living
1 3 Vancouver 107.7
2 15 Toronto 105.4
3 18 Ottawa 104.8
4 22 Montreal 104.3
5 24 Calgary 103.6

The Economist's World's Most Livable Cities 2010
City Country Rating
1 Vancouver Canada 98.0
2 Vienna Austria 97.9
3 Melbourne Australia 97.5
4 Toronto Canada 97.2
5 Calgary Canada 96.6

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's...livable_cities
Dude, can you leave the praise of our city to outsiders? Barging into threads about other places to booster your own locale seems pretty shameless.

I'm ashamed to be seeing a lot of it from our locals since these types of rankings have come out and we've held the Olympics.
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