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Old November 5th, 2015, 10:10 AM   #101
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Yes, I even didn't mentioned that block of flats next to river which is something like 550K for one bed. Considering Pontoon Dock are selling for 340-350K for one bed, Greenwich is 330K for one bed, I believe they will have hard time selling this. However, yes, they have invested a lot and you can see it.
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Yes, I even didn't mentioned that block of flats next to river which is something like 550K for one bed.
You were probably looking at Pavilion Square then?
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Considering Pontoon Dock are selling for 340-350K for one bed, Greenwich is 330K for one bed, I believe they will have hard time selling this. However, yes, they have invested a lot and you can see it.
I flew over Greenwich Peninsula and Royal Wharf (Pontoon Dock) yesterday and there is definitely a difference with the Arsenal: the architecture, the mix of old and new, the proximity to a town centre, public transport links, etc.
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Old November 5th, 2015, 04:45 PM   #103
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I flew over Greenwich Peninsula and Royal Wharf (Pontoon Dock) yesterday and there is definitely a difference with the Arsenal: the architecture, the mix of old and new, the proximity to a town centre, public transport links, etc.
Agree, but Woolwich is still Zone 4, comparing to Zone 2 for Greenwich and Zone 3 for Pontoon docks. Greenwich Peninsula lacks old but everything else is there as well. Pontoon Docks are currently very remote, agree but have nice park and lots more are planned around so the area would change in 10 years also.
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Agree, but Woolwich is still Zone 4, comparing to Zone 2 for Greenwich and Zone 3 for Pontoon docks.
I know, I'm constantly topping up my Oyster Card. I read somewhere that the council has applied for Woolwich Arsenal to be moved from zone 4 to zone 3/4. Woolwich Dockyard is in zone 3. Some people walk there to save a few pennies.
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Greenwich Peninsula lacks old but everything else is there as well. Pontoon Docks are currently very remote, agree but have nice park and lots more are planned around so the area would change in 10 years also.
It may or may not happen in these places, don't know, they just don't look appealing to me... A year and a half ago I never heard of Woolwich and I didn't like it immediately but I do love the place now, for its history, as it is now, and what it may become in the future. Here are the other places. Sorry for bad quality photos (not on purpose...).



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Old November 5th, 2015, 11:12 PM   #105
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Earlier this week the light was beautiful and I took some more pictures around the Arsenal. Looking south from Wellington Park:





Looking south from Carriage Street:







Cannon House, a British Library depot for 50 years:





A public footpath and a private courtyard at the Arsenal:





View towards Artillery Square:



Nouvel I, nearly finished:

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Old November 12th, 2015, 05:58 PM   #106
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Some updates of the Crossrail, Cannon Square and Waterfront construction sites at Royal Arsenal Riverside. Firstly, two views of the Cannon Square development, one from Beresford Square in the town centre, the other one from Mason's Hill, with a fabulous Sikh gurdwara in the foreground:
Crossrail is building something (a ventilation shaft?) at the east end of the station box:


I think this might actually be the residential scheme, but I'm not 100%.

Here is a photo showing the 10 storey block, the window slots in it match the renders in the D&A statement for that building:



But where is the core??
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I think this might actually be the residential scheme, but I'm not 100%.

But where is the core??
I suppose it's the tunnel ventilation building that is mentioned here. Could it be the lowrise brick building in the background of this render? That also explains the absence of the core.



Armourers Court won't be built until 2018. Crossrail hasn't even selected a developer. The tallest tower will be 25 storeys (75.5 m) high.
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Old November 15th, 2015, 08:30 PM   #108
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For more than 3 years the unfinished hotel along Beresford Street has been a very blue reminder of the fact that not everything is bright and shiny at the Royal Arsenal. Apparently the owner (Key Homes Group) went bust and the 'innovative' project (using prefab containers) came to an early halt. According to this newsitem, Berkeley has taken over the project and are planning to start all over again. The 130-room hotel is set to open before the end of 2016.



Above: the blue eye-sore, earlier this year. Below: the new plan



Watch the container hotel being assembled and dismantled on chrismansfieldphotos.com.
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Crossrail Station

Work has finally begun on the station building (the above-ground part):







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Cannon Square buildings

The final apartments will be available in 2017 but parts of the Cannon Square development look more or less finished.


From the northwest


Future shops along Plumstead Road


One of the taller towers, from Plumstead Road


The whole bunch as seen from Beresford Square. In the foreground the Royal Arsenal Gatehouse


View from Vincent Road


Remote view (Eglinton Hill)
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Old November 29th, 2015, 04:01 PM   #111
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Various developments

Waterfront I and II. Three cores now visible, one just reached 7th floor.








Royal Arsenal Hotel. All the blue containers are gone:



Site preparation at Pavilion Square:





The two octagonal guardhouses near the Thames are being converted, one into a sandwich shop, the other one into an office space (for Thames Clippers?).

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Thanks for these photo updates. It's great to see the progress at all the developments I'm interested in. I've not been ale to get to Woolwich much in the past few months.

Good to see Pavilions moving forward. Off the top of my head, it was phase 3 but slipped behind some of the other stages since approval. I was hoping it would start to move forward soon. Lower in height than much of the other current and future stages.
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Some views from across the river, mainly of the Cannon Square buildings:


Woolwich & Shooters Hill across the Thames from North Woolwich


The fence along Albert Road indicates the Crossrail construction site in North Woolwich


View from Gallions Reach


The Nouvel building in the foreground


The Grand Store


Royal Artillery Quays buildings
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Cannon Square development, from Plum Lane, Plumstead Road and Arsenal Way:






Waterfront development, as seen from the Thames Path:
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Great photos! I was down there earlier today and it looks like people have already moved in to the tower nearest the Crossrail site.
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Royal Arsenal Riverside | Woolwich | U/C

Woolwich Arsenal by mbrighouse, on Flickr
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Three views from Shooter's Hill of Royal Arsenal developments. Below: Royal Artillery Quays (first high-rises in the area, completed in 2001). Further down: Cannon Square (almost completed) and Waterfront & Pavilion Square (construction just started).





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Crossrail Station & Cannon Square development


Cannons at Dial Arch Square. Behind the hoardings the Crossrail station construction site. In the background the Cannon Square buildings


The station entrance building from the southeast


Retail spaces along Plumstead Road


The two taller towers (21 storeys both)


View from the south (Vincent Road)
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Waterfront I & II, Pavilion Square & other projects


Construction site of Pavilion Square. In the background the 3 cores of Waterfront I (to the right) and II (left and middle) rising


The core of Waterfront I reaching 9th floor


Pavilion Square. The two older buildings are the recently restored Royal Laboratory Pavilions


Barely visible behind the hoardings: the Royal Arsenal hotel is going up once again; this time the old-fashioned way!


Behind the arsenal wall: the glass and steel annex to the Main Guard House, opening mid-February as the 3rd gastro-pub in the Woolwich Arsenal
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I went around the sales and marketing suite today and was told Waterfront III goes on sale in September. Meanwhile I was surprised to hear the old catholic club (probably the only building on the site not owned by Berkeley) has just been bought by a church group. Given how many there is in Woolwich and its location I'm surprised Berkeley or another developer didn't buy it
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