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Old March 26th, 2015, 12:40 PM   #81
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Old March 27th, 2015, 09:36 AM   #82
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The company will design and build four new swimming pools at Erdington, Stechford Cascades, Icknield Port Loop, in Edgbaston, and Northfield
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Old March 27th, 2015, 11:13 AM   #84
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Its four, bad grammar
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Old March 27th, 2015, 11:21 AM   #85
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O ye, misread Icknield and Edgbaston as separate entities.
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Old March 27th, 2015, 04:38 PM   #86
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I have every confidence that this will be an expertly negotiated contract by Birmingham City Council that will reduce the cost of building and running swimming pools immensely.

It definitely won't turn out to be an expensive, badly run catastrophe.
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Old March 27th, 2015, 05:14 PM   #87
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With these in mind I hope they can at last sort out Balsall Heath and turn it into a community centre like Stirchley. I don't know why there can't be a new pool built down the Ring Road hill from there on the old astroturf pitch.
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Old March 27th, 2015, 06:59 PM   #88
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Oyster style smart cards across the network by 2017!!!! Busses already have them but now rail and I am not sure if metro already does but I am sure it will.

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Old March 27th, 2015, 07:50 PM   #89
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I have every confidence that this will be an expertly negotiated contract by Birmingham City Council that will reduce the cost of building and running swimming pools immensely.

It definitely won't turn out to be an expensive, badly run catastrophe.
It's a shame it's happening though, long term it can't be good for the council, a bit of investment and they could get the running costs down and revenues up, if it wasn't viable there wouldn't be a list of private companies queueing up to control and run them, same with the recent sale of the car park near the JQ, the price for the land was above the asking price but how many years until the income generated from it pays itself off? Or even more so now they've launched the private rent housing scheme, they could have built a huge apartment block and raked it in instead of someone else doing it
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Old March 28th, 2015, 12:48 AM   #90
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If you speak to the staff at harborne pool, they really like the new operators and the new set up.

They get paid more, feel a greater sense of involvement and more a part of something.
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Old March 28th, 2015, 09:45 AM   #91
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if they're paid more that just goes to show managed correctly things can run at a profit which could be making the council money to pay off the rediculous equal pay claim and benefit the city in the future rather than making a quick lump sum and no income after...
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Old March 28th, 2015, 09:46 AM   #92
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Be interesting where the northfield one goes there was talk of it being built in Longbridge instead
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Old March 28th, 2015, 02:10 PM   #93
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If you speak to the staff at harborne pool, they really like the new operators and the new set up.

They get paid more, feel a greater sense of involvement and more a part of something.
The problem is, there's no reason why the council shouldn't be able to run it in this manner. They should feel a part of something, but they should feel a part of the whole city and invested in its health and success rather than a part of some random profit-making company. DC Leisure (as at Harborne) is one thing - interestingly, they've recently been purchased by a social enterprise, which I didn't know - but how are you going to feel involved at or a part of bloody Serco?

Why should they make money from services funded by and provided for citizens of Birmingham, when it could be managed sensibly and provide a return for the city itself? And that's before you even begin to delve into the catalogue of borderline fraud and horrendous mismanagement that has plagued their management of public services in this country.
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The problem is, there's no reason why the council shouldn't be able to run it in this manner. They should feel a part of something, but they should feel a part of the whole city and invested in its health and success rather than a part of some random profit-making company. DC Leisure (as at Harborne) is one thing - interestingly, they've recently been purchased by a social enterprise, which I didn't know - but how are you going to feel involved at or a part of bloody Serco?

Why should they make money from services funded by and provided for citizens of Birmingham, when it could be managed sensibly and provide a return for the city itself? And that's before you even begin to delve into the catalogue of borderline fraud and horrendous mismanagement that has plagued their management of public services in this country.
Can't 'like' this enough. Asking people to show the same enthusiasm for a commercial enterprise as they do for civic pride is a joke.
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Old March 28th, 2015, 03:36 PM   #95
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Looking a bit binary there Sefton.....
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Old March 28th, 2015, 03:54 PM   #96
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I'm not a robot, honest

Didn't realise how high my post count was though!
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Old March 28th, 2015, 06:06 PM   #97
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Looking a bit binary there Sefton.....
Apparently he only has 13 likes, then.
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Old March 28th, 2015, 11:21 PM   #99
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Apparently he only has 13 likes, then.
Yep, and either 31 or 37 posts (taking the comma into account).
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Old March 31st, 2015, 12:26 PM   #100
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If you speak to the staff at harborne pool, they really like the new operators and the new set up.

They get paid more, feel a greater sense of involvement and more a part of something.

Purely a sweetner at the start of operations..Let's see if the harborne staff feel the same way this time next year !!
My son worked for them up in the North West, absolutely lousy operators, nothing but staff cuts, taking on apprentices on the lowest possible wages, staff were and are leaving in droves, definitely didn't listen to staff. Lost their Manchester contract altogether...I wonder why???...and Birmingham takes them on
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