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Old August 20th, 2015, 11:56 PM   #61
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It is tempting to want something 'quirky' like the old proposal, however in this location next to Selfridges it would not have been right. Just imagine London's 'Walkie Talkie' here - it would look hideous competing with one of our iconic structures. This, if it matches the renders and they don't do anything stupid like use green glass, is an excellent design. I don't think it will look messed up like Beetham as the glass is a uniform curtain in front of balconies so you shouldn't be compromised with window dressings, etc.
I think what Birmingham is better at than other provincial cities is the interaction with the street scene, in places like Brindley. Hopefully this square which is zoned in an interesting way will continue this. I could happily sit at one of those tables and watch the world go by.
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Old August 21st, 2015, 01:24 AM   #62
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lt seems a little pointless giving the overall heights as above sea level as surely its impact above street level and on surrounding buildings is what should be available from the plans.Having to deduct the height above S.L is bloody stupid to me. I think that for anybody expecting a 220 m tower from those plans however, should have heard alarm bells ringing at the sight of the buildings surpassing beetham Manc's height by the 12th floor, but 'above S.L heights given on the plans did start the confusion.
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Old August 21st, 2015, 03:30 AM   #63
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Anyone thinking this is above 200m tall needs to have a hard look at themselves.
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Old August 21st, 2015, 04:16 AM   #64
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Bit harsh, not everyone has years of experience with Tall buildings. It's also easy to mis read things.
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Old August 21st, 2015, 09:32 AM   #65
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Anyone thinking this is above 200m tall needs to have a hard look at themselves.
What if they don't like what they see? Have you considered that it might trigger some kind of existential crisis?

I think you need to take a hard look at yourself...
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Old August 21st, 2015, 10:20 AM   #66
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Is there any parking with this? This part of town can get crowded with the Bullring and markets.
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Old August 21st, 2015, 10:41 AM   #67
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Well the market won't be there much longer.
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Old August 21st, 2015, 11:00 AM   #68
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Anyone thinking this is above 200m tall needs to have a hard look at themselves.
Simple misreading on my part. And the renders do make it look enormous.
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Old August 21st, 2015, 11:01 AM   #69
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They ought to do something with that Bullring car park anyway. That one in Sheffield would fit well with Selfridges and Beorma tower.
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Old August 21st, 2015, 11:32 AM   #70
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What if they don't like what they see? Have you considered that it might trigger some kind of existential crisis?
That's an interesting theory!
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Old August 21st, 2015, 11:34 AM   #71
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Bit harsh, not everyone has years of experience with Tall buildings. It's also easy to mis read things.
Agreed, poor from me. I apologise, sorry if hurt anyone's feelings x
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They ought to do something with that Bullring car park anyway. That one in Sheffield would fit well with Selfridges and Beorma tower.
That car park in Sheffield is awesome!! I like our own mini version in Eastside though. I think anything on that scale would clash too much with Selfridges though. Oh and have we seen a decent render or elevation of what the tower looks like a street level??
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Old August 21st, 2015, 12:48 PM   #73
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Hmm, I think the Selfridges car park is more to suit Moor Street station rather than Selfridges itself, don't know if I could imagine the Sheffield car park next to Moor Street station
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In other news I see Birmingham Post/Mail have updated their articles with the new renders
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Express and Star have done a report.

Got the correct render, but are saying it's 700 feet tall and also the tallest office block in Brum. Both incorrect.

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/l...in-birmingham/
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This looks fantastic. I particularly like Phase 3
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...and great to see Birmingham based Architects doing a proper good job!
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That's my worry. Beetham Manc is one of the ugliest tall buildings I've seen in the UK (though I know many others love it), so for me this needs to be significantly better.

I'm really liking the renders though - I take it from the picture of the couple on the "balcony" that some of this is residential?
'The main building will see 154 apartments on the upper 18 floors, with 11 floors for offices above a ground level with the lobby, shops and a possible restaurant.'
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Old August 21st, 2015, 06:14 PM   #79
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If this is downscaled, I shall .
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Old August 21st, 2015, 06:28 PM   #80
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We should start having bets on whether these things will pass/fail the vagaries of Birmingham's planning regime
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